Seriously need healthy recipe help for a picky eater

[Imzadi]

So, out of 2 chickens, you get about a gallon of broth, dinner for 4 twice, appetizers for the big game, Chicken Salad, and dog food.

We're all having dinner at dngnb8's!

BTW, what is that chicken scum we skim off? Why isn't it there when we bake/broil chickens and don't have to worry about it?

 

[Imzadi]

Where can you find wheat berries?

Cornflake posted this several pages back. Had to dig for it.

In my market, they're sold sortof bulk - the store packages their own bulk stuff, if you know what I mean, so there are tubs of wheat berries, red, regular, quinoa, kasha, couscous, israeli couscous, flaxseed, barley, kamut, all manner of lentils, yada yada - it's by the nuts, dried fruits, etc., for what it's worth.

I think you'd have better luck at a Whole Foods if you've got one, I think they have Wheat Berries in their bulk bins and in the little tubs where they sell bulk stuff prepacked like my market.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OP--one last non-veggie but possibly not helpful tip...

My first child seemed to heavily prefer fruit when she was a baby. Her vegetarian doctor said it didn't really matter. As long as there was a variety of fruit, it didn't matter where the vitamins came from.

If you can find ways to up your fruit intake to coincide with your diabetes AND take a multi-vitamin, it is possible to be healthy but mostly veg-free.

I didn't suggest it as I am not sure how that would work with your diabetes.

But basically, figure out a way to make your plate naturally colorful and you will be on your way to a healthier plate.

Our meals consist of protein, whole grain and veg-so instead of veg, you would do fruit.

And if it helps with the aversion--tomotatoes and cucumbers and peapods are fruits. (Just reminded of that in my 3rd grader's science book this week. Fruits are angiosperms aka seed containers...so if it has seeds, it is technically a fruit. Does that help? (not being sarcastic...but maybe it would help?))

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

We're all having dinner at dngnb8's!

BTW, what is that chicken scum we skim off? Why isn't it there when we bake/broil chickens and don't have to worry about it?

Don't ask, don't tell...

I really don't wanna know...

 

[NotUrsula]

BTW, what is that chicken scum we skim off? Why isn't it there when we bake/broil chickens and don't have to worry about it?

Albumin; a protein that is also part of the whites of chicken eggs. It always floats in salted water.

 

[Imzadi]

Here are several quinoa recipes I had bookmarked a while back. Use them for ideas as to what to make quinoa with, rather than as exact recipes or dressings.

Also, you can cook quinoa with more water, broth or milk, to make more of a porridge, oatmeal. Or less water, to get a fluffier, grain/rice texture. In these salads, make it fluffier. There is also two types of quinoa, regular (beige) and a red quinoa, which is heartier and takes a little longer to cook.

Quinoa Salad with Asparagus, Dates, and Orange

Colorful Quinoa Salad

Mango and Black Bean Quinoa Salad

Roasted Vegetable Quinoa Salad

Quinoa Salad with feta & almonds

Asparagus and Shiitake Mushroom Teriyaki Quinoa Salad

Corn and Black Bean Quinoa Salad

Black Bean and Quinoa Chili

Asparagus and Baby Artichoke Quinoa Salad

 

[AlwaysMoving]

And if it helps with the aversion--tomotatoes and cucumbers and peapods are fruits. (Just reminded of that in my 3rd grader's science book this week. Fruits are angiosperms aka seed containers...so if it has seeds, it is technically a fruit. Does that help? (not being sarcastic...but maybe it would help?))

Hmmm...so that means squash and peppers are fruits too? I always thought they were vegetables. Off topic, but my son's Biology book said fruits are ripened ovaries and I never knew that either.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Hmmm...so that means squash and peppers are fruits too? I always thought they were vegetables. Off topic, but my son's Biology book said fruits are ripened ovaries and I never knew that either.

We are using a botany book...when it mentioned cucumber and clarified that vegetables don't have seeds....

The produce department is a conspiracy!

Upon some googling...found out that cucumbers are related to watermelon.

Total conspiracy.

Here is a brief list from a raw food website (missing some of what was mentioned...):

This information came from: http://www.raw-food-health.net/listofvegetables.html#ixzz1fEfkWO2m
http://www.raw-food-health.net/
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives

List Of Vegetables That Are Really Non-Sweet Fruits:
Bell Peppers (Green, Red, Yellow, Orange, etc), Okra, Tomatillos Tomatoes, Cucumbers, Tamarillos

 

[Owlpost23]

Hope the OP is finding some helpful info in this thread.Quinoa is delicious,and very versatile.The one point I would like to make is that we are all terrible,terrible slaves to the few square inches of taste buds in our mouths,and tend to disregard the rest of us.Something to really consider when opting for sensible choices.

 

[Imzadi]

General PSA about diabetes:

Adult onset diabetes is one of the leading growing epidemics in AMERICA today vs. the rest of the world. (Although I heard Europe is now gaining ground.) Because children are now getting it, it is no longer referred to as "Adult onset diabetes." It is now called Type 2 Diabetes. It is caused by a cultural thing, not just for those genetically pre-disposed. Over-simplified, it's caused by HOW we eat, how we over-tax the pancreas by overloading our bodies with sugar/carbs in spikes and dips, until the pancreas fails to produce insulin properly.

No one is immune. Yet, it IS preventable. This has been a good thread on helping everyone become more aware of how one is eating and where all those hidden and not so hidden carbs are in what we eat and the way we eat as a society.


(Getting off of soapbox now. )

 

[NotUrsula]

Hmmm...so that means squash and peppers are fruits too? I always thought they were vegetables. Off topic, but my son's Biology book said fruits are ripened ovaries and I never knew that either.

Yep, they are, botanically speaking, to both questions.

Popular perception says that edible plant products fall into five categories, grains (starchy edible seeds that can be ground into flour), nuts (seeds that are mostly eaten raw), beans (seeds that are mostly eaten cooked), fruits (sweet-tasting plant parts), and vegetables (any edible plant part that is savory and NOT a seed.) The scientific definitions are more specific and are based on anatomy, not flavor. Scientists will refer to seeds, stalks, flowers, leaves, fruits and roots, but they are all vegetable; in anatomical terms the word just means that they are plants. (In reality, almost all tree nuts are actually fruits. Also, high-starch grains and roots ARE vegetables in the proper sense of the term, the diabetic food exchange definition notwithstanding.)

When most people who are touting better nutrition speak of the need to eat "vegetables," they are really usually speaking of low-sugar-content green edible plants; it's a classification that Linnaeus wouldn't recognize in a million years.

 

[smkohn]

Okay...now you HAVE to tell me how to make my own chicken stock. I am culinarily challenged. BADLY. I've been told I could burn water.

I looove making my own chicken broth. It's so easy and I've always loved a good soup. I use a crock pot for mine. I put a whole chicken in the crock pot during the day, then after its done I take it out and add the bones back in with the chicken drippings that are collected in the crock pot. I add about 5 cups of water, some celery, carrots, and onions. Let it sit in the crock pot on low overnight, then strain everything out, put in the fridge, skim off the fatty top, and voila. Barely any work. My crock pot is like my best friend, especially in the winter.

 

[FireDancer]

General PSA about diabetes:

Adult onset diabetes is one of the leading growing epidemics in AMERICA today vs. the rest of the world. (Although I heard Europe is now gaining ground.) Because children are now getting it, it is no longer referred to as "Adult onset diabetes." It is now called Type 2 Diabetes. It is caused by a cultural thing, not just for those genetically pre-disposed. Over-simplified, it's caused by HOW we eat, how we over-tax the pancreas by overloading our bodies with sugar/carbs in spikes and dips, until the pancreas fails to produce insulin properly.

No one is immune. Yet, it IS preventable. This has been a good thread on helping everyone become more aware of how one is eating and where all those hidden and not so hidden carbs are in what we eat and the way we eat as a society.


(Getting off of soapbox now. )

Good post.

I know of people in real life who changed their diet and exercised and were no longer diabetic. It happens quite often to contestants on the biggest loser. The same is true of many other health conditions from blood pressure to cholesterol to ED. Many lifestyle illnesses are better treated by lifestyle changes than taking drugs that merely mask the symptoms while not addressing the actual causes.

 

[LilyWDW]

Wow, thank you SO much!

Quinoa is one of those items that I have been hesitant to try. I really don't know why as I usually love to try new foods, but every time I think about Quinoa I chicken out.

Like I said before, this thread (minus a few negatives) has been very helpful to me personally. It's really brought me to the point where I have said "I need to make a change". I can't keep living the way I have been. Some of the posts here have shown me EASY changes I can make and sort of given me a push that I really needed. So to that end, thank you. If I named names I'm afraid I would miss someone!

Here are several quinoa recipes I had bookmarked a while back. Use them for ideas as to what to make quinoa with, rather than as exact recipes or dressings.

Also, you can cook quinoa with more water, broth or milk, to make more of a porridge, oatmeal. Or less water, to get a fluffier, grain/rice texture. In these salads, make it fluffier. There is also two types of quinoa, regular (beige) and a red quinoa, which is heartier and takes a little longer to cook.

Quinoa Salad with Asparagus, Dates, and Orange

Colorful Quinoa Salad

Mango and Black Bean Quinoa Salad

Roasted Vegetable Quinoa Salad

Quinoa Salad with feta & almonds

Asparagus and Shiitake Mushroom Teriyaki Quinoa Salad

Corn and Black Bean Quinoa Salad

Black Bean and Quinoa Chili

Asparagus and Baby Artichoke Quinoa Salad

 

[Imzadi]

Wow, thank you SO much!

Quinoa is one of those items that I have been hesitant to try. I really don't know why as I usually love to try new foods, but every time I think about Quinoa I chicken out.

Like I said before, this thread (minus a few negatives) has been very helpful to me personally. It's really brought me to the point where I have said "I need to make a change". I can't keep living the way I have been. Some of the posts here have shown me EASY changes I can make and sort of given me a push that I really needed. So to that end, thank you. If I named names I'm afraid I would miss someone!

Probably because no one knows how to pronounce it. It's pronounced KEEN-wa.


Here is a simple recipe to have it in place of oatmeal for breakfast. People can sub out the blueberries with any other fruit: dried cranberries, bananas, dates, etc.

http://www.marthastewart.com/314453/breakfast-quinoa

 

[cornflake]

There's a quinoa salad/side dish I like that a market near me makes in their deli - it's basically quinoa, chickpeas, little scallion, all tossed in curry powder. I like it warm as a side dish, really good, but it can also be a cold salad.

I use fresh squeezed lime sometimes so I think lemon would be good too. It is really the only liquid I ever put on salad. You just don't want to put it on much before eating it because of the acidity of the juice.

One of the best simple salads I ever had was shredded arugula and raw green beans with fresh squeezed lime juice and pepper. It was at a local restaurant and I wouldn't have ever though to combine those things had they not had it as an option.

Not for nuttin', as I don't know if you mean you just had the salad or are just talking about the salad, and probably know regardless, but it's not a great idea to have salads without any oil or cheese at all, nutrition-wise, unless you're having something alongside the salad that has some fat in it.

There are fat-soluble vitamins in greens, like K, that need fat to be absorbed. Hence, if you just have a salad, with just citrus and no fat in the meal, you're not going to get all the benefits of the nutrients in the vegetables. If you make a simple vinegarette or just have a bit of cheese or some butter on brown bread or whatever, alongside, or are having a salad and whatever, eggplant parmesan, you can access all the vitamins.

 

[frndshpcptn]

Because of this thread, I've been inspired to try a new vegetable. I bought a white bean salad with onions, oil and vinegar to have with my lunch tomorrow.

 

[FireDancer]

Not for nuttin', as I don't know if you mean you just had the salad or are just talking about the salad, and probably know regardless, but it's not a great idea to have salads without any oil or cheese at all, nutrition-wise, unless you're having something alongside the salad that has some fat in it.

There are fat-soluble vitamins in greens, like K, that need fat to be absorbed. Hence, if you just have a salad, with just citrus and no fat in the meal, you're not going to get all the benefits of the nutrients in the vegetables. If you make a simple vinegarette or just have a bit of cheese or some butter on brown bread or whatever, alongside, or are having a salad and whatever, eggplant parmesan, you can access all the vitamins.

That salad I described was part of a meal so I did have some fat. It is rare that I only eat a salad anywhere without something else but when I make them at home I always add seeds, nuts, or olives so I get some fat along with the other nutrients.

 

[dngnb8]

We're all having dinner at dngnb8's!

BTW, what is that chicken scum we skim off? Why isn't it there when we bake/broil chickens and don't have to worry about it?

It is made from the chicken fat. Think about soap. Soap reduces the surface tension of the water and that allows bubbles. The scum is a combination of the fat, and the minerals in the water, salt, etc.

The reason while it isnt in the broiler pan is because the lack of water.

 

[punkin]

It is made from the chicken fat. Think about soap. Soap reduces the surface tension of the water and that allows bubbles. The scum is a combination of the fat, and the minerals in the water, salt, etc.

The reason while it isnt in the broiler pan is because the lack of water.

...and albumen as PP posted above.

I also wanted to mention that a pretty good vegetable stock can be made from the trimmings bag you described. I would put the trimmings in a pot, cover with water, bring to boil, simmer. It is not as nice as a real vegetable broth, but it is much better than water. I am planning to make some today (I have a veggie friend coming for dinner this weekend) but I will add a bay leaf, some ginger and a leek (just because I have them) to my trimmings bag. This will not be good enough (IMO) for a soup base (unless I am adding beans or lentils) but it will be perfect for making quinoa, rice, or something like that.

Also, no cabbagey (broccoli, brussels sprouts) or potatoey (really starchy) trimmings in the bag. They will ruin the broth.