Seriously need healthy recipe help for a picky eater

Ugh, we get it. You don't agree. This is adding nothing to the discussion and is distracting from an otherwise good informative thread for the second time.

And don't use this as an excuse to do the same with me because I will be ignoring you.

I get it, you dont agree. Disagreeing with me in a discussion forum is adding nothing to the discussion and is distracting form an otherwise good informative thread for the second time.

I hate when people raise issues and they get discussed. Disagreements. How rude of me to disagree in a discussion and express my opinion. One might call this a forum for that to happen
 
Apparently not



So let me get this straight....

A person who calls himself a vegetarian is confused if they dont meet your definition.

Yet

A person who isnt a vegetarian, and makes a mistake in what they think is a vegetarian preparation, is rude.

Got it. :rolleyes:

No, someone who makes a mistake isn't rude, as above when I responded to the poster who said they sometimes don't think about it.

Someone who calls him or herself a vegetarian but isn't, is confused, yes. It's not MY definition. It's THE definition. If you think you're a chair, I'm pretty confident in saying you're not, as you don't meet THE definition of one.
 
No, someone who makes a mistake isn't rude, as above when I responded to the poster who said they sometimes don't think about it.

Someone who calls him or herself a vegetarian but isn't, is confused, yes. It's not MY definition. It's THE definition. If you think you're a chair, I'm pretty confident in saying you're not, as you don't meet THE definition of one.

Ooh ooh!! I'm the CHAIR of a committee here (sports related). :lmao:







I could help myself. I'm weak.
 
Please, can we keep this one thread on topic instead of allowing it to fall into arguing between 2 or 3 people? If we keep on target, this thread can be very helpful for many people. If we let it go off target, then we lose a lot of good information and risk it being closed.

Discussions are great, but mocking and arguing semantics isn't going to lead to discussion.

More on topic... I don't think you have to make a full 180 right away to start making a change. I think you can take steps so that you can adjust your lifestyle and schedule so that you can keep up with it all. For some people, making the whole and complete change all at once can be too much. I know, personally, I am one of those people. I have already come up with some steps I can start taking today and what I plan to do over the next month or so. The plan is to make all the changes by the end of December.

I will also be the first to admit my willpower stinks. I hate it and it is something I have to work with and change. I also have another family member here that isn't the best supporter. So, I am going to put my foot down with her and tell her "Deal with it... my health is more important." It sucks, but you need to do what you need to do.

One of the things I do find helpful and that I need to implement better is pre prepping. I do my grocery shopping on Monday mornings (I hate grocery shopping on weekends and Mondays fit my schedule best). What I want to start doing to putting together a big bowl of salad that morning that I can eat from all week (can anyone suggest a good salad spinner/storage bowl?). I am also going to hard boil eggs or make a frittata for days I need a fast breakfast. I'll get the meats that need marinating ready and chop any vegetables I can ahead of time. Then, dinner takes no time on the days it matters.
 

Oxo makes a nice, reasonably priced spinner/bowl, with the center plunger - I think it's like $25. You can store in it in the fridge.
 
In the spirit of keeping on topic...DH was diagnosed as pre-diabetic in May and has made MANY small changes (cut out sweet tea and soda, cut portion sizes down, cut out eating dessert every night). Luckily, since he's a DUDE those changes resulted in him dropping close to 30 pounds in no time. His numbers improved but he isn't out of the woods yet, so now that he has successfully implemented those changes, we will add more...cutting down on the carbs (switched to those low carb flats instead of bread for burgers), cut out the white rice, potatoes, adding in more and more fresh vegetables.

A problem we (and many people) have is COST. Eating well seems to cost more. Fresh produce, low carb anything. Naturally our health is more important but still. Also TIME. Making fresh dishes takes more time than the processed junk, so you really REALLY have to dedicate yourself to do it otherwise you can fall into the "we're too tired...just order a pizza" thing.
 
A problem we (and many people) have is COST. Eating well seems to cost more. Fresh produce, low carb anything. Naturally our health is more important but still. Also TIME. Making fresh dishes takes more time than the processed junk, so you really REALLY have to dedicate yourself to do it otherwise you can fall into the "we're too tired...just order a pizza" thing.

I try not to buy whole food ingredients at supermarkets if I can avoid it. I try to buy meats from a butcher or a warehouse club, milk from the warehouse club (DS14 has a $15/wk milk habit), and veggies from produce stands. I also buy spices and grains at ethnic markets where they are more likely to be offered in bulk.

I also pre-chop and freeze a LOT of vegetables myself. Not every veggie will freeze well in a home freezer, and not every dish lends itself to using frozen veggies,but doing this saves a lot of waste, which is one of the biggest problems that I have with fresh foods: buying in quantity makes the food cheaper, but spoilage becomes a problem.
 
Also TIME. Making fresh dishes takes more time than the processed junk, so you really REALLY have to dedicate yourself to do it otherwise you can fall into the "we're too tired...just order a pizza" thing.

Oh, I know what you mean. I have to dedicate myself to one day a week for prepping stuff for the weeks meals. Grinding meat for hamburger, cutting vegetables, etc. Just making a salad takes forever if you don't buy those bags. I say the trick to losing weight is the amount of time it takes to make a healthy meal you have skipped an entire snack that you would have been tempted to eat. Before my diet, I was so trapped in the convenience of foods.

As far as "We're tired, let's order pizza", I just remind myself of what pizza now does to my stomach and then I remember how much time I need to spend on the treadmill to remove all those calories. Takes less time and energy prepping a healthy meal than what you spend on the toilet and treadmill after eating that quick pizza.
 
I think the time/prep thing may be partially helped at least by going about it a different way than you may be now (I dunno what you're doing now, just guessing based on other people I know and their experiences).

Instead of the 'what do we make tonight' followed by 'for that, we've got to ....' thing, if you rework your larder and do maybe one or two days of prep - and rethink what 'dinner' is, you can cut down a lot of the time/cost.

Just for instance, if you buy a bunch of produce, and say, a bulk pack of chicken breasts and broil or grill or whatever the chicken, make some brown rice while at it to store in the fridge, then slice some and freeze some sliced and some whole, and cut up a lot of the produce (cut the broccoli into florets, cut up peppers, peel and cut up carrots, celery, wash lettuce and put whole leaves in some ziplocks with damp towels, etc., and store it all properly...

You can make a whole bunch of stuff out of that basic prep and some basic cabinet staples, even if they're a bit processed, like jarred sauces - stir frys, pastas, homemade pizzas (takes less time than delivery if you have a ball of ready-to-go dough, package of shredded lowfat cheese, already cut up veggies, jar of sauce and sliced chicken), quesadillas, tacos, dinner salads, sandwiches (this is one of those, reworking dinner things. Dinner doesn't need to be hot meat, starch, veg. If you've got good bread, plain chicken, prepared lettuce, tomatoes to slice, other veg, takes 10 minutes to make some hearty sandwiches, serve with carrot and celery slices, that's a quick, decent dinner), etc.
 
Oxo makes a nice, reasonably priced spinner/bowl, with the center plunger - I think it's like $25. You can store in it in the fridge.

Thanks a ton! I like Oxo products so I'm going to look into that right now!

A problem we (and many people) have is COST. Eating well seems to cost more. Fresh produce, low carb anything. Naturally our health is more important but still. Also TIME. Making fresh dishes takes more time than the processed junk, so you really REALLY have to dedicate yourself to do it otherwise you can fall into the "we're too tired...just order a pizza" thing.

My weekly grocery budget is about $100. I actually do $400 for the month so I have some leeway in stocking up on specific items when they go on sale. I buy meats (chicken, pork, steaks, roasts, salmon, lunch meat, ect) at Sam's if the deal is good. As soon as I get home I portion it out, use my food saver to seal it up by portion, and stack in my freezer. Yes, it costs more upfront, but I end up saving a lot more because I already have it up there instead of having to buy it at whatever price it is.

Time is my biggest enemy though. The other day I felt like crud and didn't have the energy to cook (aka I didn't want to take the time to do it), so we ordered a pizza. Needless to say, I felt even worse after that (physically and emotionally because I was so mad at myself).

What I find I have to do is carve out some time to pre prep (see my last post for more details). I have to schedule this in so I actually do it. Same with work outs... it has to be scheduled (I have OCD and schedules are a "thing" for me). If I do that, then I'm more likely to remember to do the task and more willing to actually do the task.
 
Something I tell people who are in a relationship and want to change is that they can't let their s/o or kids keep them from their goals. Even if you are the only person in the house who is going to eat healthy do it, don't let the others pull you down. I completely understand that it is harder when you are living with someone but at that point there are three options. You both change by choice. The person who wants positive change brings the other one along eventually. The person who wants positive change allows the other one to drag them down or sabotage their efforts. You see it all the time on the biggest loser. One member loses a lot of weight but allows their spouse to sabotage them down the road a bit. If that means you make your own meal that is what it takes.

I have a huge problem with this. I will give an example. My husband likes to go to chilis on Friday's I don't work. I don't think they have anything healthy that I would eat, and the things I will eat are over 100 calories. Oh and he will not allow not ordering both chips and salsa and hot wings (and no if you put hotwings in front of me I don't have the will power to not eat them I will admit that)

So last week he wanted to go on saturday, I didn't want to go. WAsn't even diet related that time, I just had other stuff I wanted to get done and its almost 45 min away. Just seemed like a waste of time... Yeah he was miserable half the day because he didn't get to do the one thing he wanted to do. I have no idea how to handle this. He wants taco bell, burger king, pizza, chilis etc often. (at least 1 or 2 of these a week, sometimes more). I am also trying to turn around my eating habits but I have no idea how to handle this. I can't take my husband being miserable. It makes me miserable then I feel guilty and then end up eating ice cream. (I massively do comfort foods, working on that too)

Oh and if I say the reason is diet related its even worse because then he will start telling me that if I just exercised more it wouldn't be a problem and that its not so bad once in a while and all this other stuff. He is getting a bit of a gut but is one of those people that never excercises, eats whatever he wants, and yet weights 175 lbs has no blood pressure issues, etc.

Me I have high blood pressure and weigh 260 lbs. I can't keep doing this but short of leaving my husband I don't know if I'll be able to do it. Yes this is probably a will power issue. I don't have the will power to deal with my husband being miserable, but I don't think I can change that.
 
In the spirit of the thread, I made Kasha (without the noodles) last night. It came out SO good (I sauteed onions in a bit of olive oil, toasted the buckwheat and then added water and a bit of butter / salt & pepper while it was still cooking).

I had that for breakfast.

Then I had Roast beef sandwich (no mayo or cheese) for lunch, along with 6 spears of roasted asparagus and another cup of buckwheat.

I'm having some M&Ms now.

Dinner...not sure yet. Maybe shrimp?
 
In the spirit of the thread, I made Kasha (without the noodles) last night. It came out SO good (I sauteed onions in a bit of olive oil, toasted the buckwheat and then added water and a bit of butter / salt & pepper while it was still cooking).

I had that for breakfast.

Then I had Roast beef sandwich (no mayo or cheese) for lunch, along with 6 spears of roasted asparagus and another cup of buckwheat.

I'm having some M&Ms now.

Dinner...not sure yet. Maybe shrimp?

you should have had a pulled pork sandwich. Then you would have had Porky and Buckwheat, you little rascal you.
 
I have a huge problem with this. I will give an example. My husband likes to go to chilis on Friday's I don't work. I don't think they have anything healthy that I would eat, and the things I will eat are over 100 calories. Oh and he will not allow not ordering both chips and salsa and hot wings (and no if you put hotwings in front of me I don't have the will power to not eat them I will admit that)

So last week he wanted to go on saturday, I didn't want to go. WAsn't even diet related that time, I just had other stuff I wanted to get done and its almost 45 min away. Just seemed like a waste of time... Yeah he was miserable half the day because he didn't get to do the one thing he wanted to do. I have no idea how to handle this. He wants taco bell, burger king, pizza, chilis etc often. (at least 1 or 2 of these a week, sometimes more). I am also trying to turn around my eating habits but I have no idea how to handle this. I can't take my husband being miserable. It makes me miserable then I feel guilty and then end up eating ice cream. (I massively do comfort foods, working on that too)

Oh and if I say the reason is diet related its even worse because then he will start telling me that if I just exercised more it wouldn't be a problem and that its not so bad once in a while and all this other stuff. He is getting a bit of a gut but is one of those people that never excercises, eats whatever he wants, and yet weights 175 lbs has no blood pressure issues, etc.

Me I have high blood pressure and weigh 260 lbs. I can't keep doing this but short of leaving my husband I don't know if I'll be able to do it. Yes this is probably a will power issue. I don't have the will power to deal with my husband being miserable, but I don't think I can change that.

I think that is kind of crappy of your husband and I know myself enough that I wouldn't last very long in a relationship with anyone who was like that. He kind of sounds like a petulant child.

I guess my only suggestion would be to compromise. Either alternate Chili's with a healthier restaurant of your choosing every other Friday or let him go get his Chili's by himself. I hate the chain restaurants but when I am stuck going I get a salad with grilled chicken if they have it and if they don't usually they will make it off-menu.

Sorry, I wish I had a magic bullet for you but that's all I've got.
 
In the spirit of the thread, I made Kasha (without the noodles) last night. It came out SO good (I sauteed onions in a bit of olive oil, toasted the buckwheat and then added water and a bit of butter / salt & pepper while it was still cooking).

I had that for breakfast.

Then I had Roast beef sandwich (no mayo or cheese) for lunch, along with 6 spears of roasted asparagus and another cup of buckwheat.

I'm having some M&Ms now.

Dinner...not sure yet. Maybe shrimp?

With or without peanuts?
 
I think that is kind of crappy of your husband and I know myself enough that I wouldn't last very long in a relationship with anyone who was like that. I guess my only suggestion would be to compromise. Either alternate Chili's with a healthier restaurant of your choosing every other Friday or let him go get his Chili's by himself. I hate the chain restaurants but when I am stuck going I get a salad with grilled chicken if they have it and if they don't usually they will make it off-menu.

Sorry, I wish I had a magic bullet for you but that's all I've got.

Yeah I thought salad would be ok, but the calories are on the menu and the salads have 900+ calories...

I know there isn't a magic bullet for this, I guess I just wanted to vent. Any suggestions on healthy restaurants? I can manage something ok an Panera Bread (especially in the summer since the salad with the strawberries, blueberries, oranges, etc is amazing) but its the only thing I can think of. We don't have much around here maybe we just don't have the healthy restaurants.

BTW I would love to send him alone... I doubt he would like that but then I would also get some time to myself to just be home. I do much better at getting things done when I don't have someone to distract me.
 
Okay... odd question...

What is the texture of cooked Quinoa? The reason I ask is that I am not a big fan of the texture of brown rice. I do eat regular rice (really infrequently, like 2-3 times a month) couscous, ect. So, I just want to prepare myself!

There are also some other foods that intrigue me, but I have been too scared to try. What about Kale, Chinese Broccoli, and Winter Squashes? Are they good? How do you prepare them?

Also, I went ahead and ordered that salad spinner. I should have it sometime next week so that the following Monday I can start pre making my salads! Yay!
 
Salads can be the bain of dieting. Highly caloric and fat concentrated dressings, cheese, bacon, meats. Just because there is a leaf in there, doesnt make it healthy.

I make a pretty tasty salad. Dark leafy greens, carrots, celery, zuchinni, radishes. I use good seasons Italian for my seasoning and I use real Parmesan Reggiano cheese.

Dressing
Bertolli Extra Virgin Olive Oil: If youre gonna use fat, use vegetable fat and the EVOO health benefits are well documented. Bertolli can be purchased in big containers at your big box stores and is inexpensive as far as EVOO goes. I call this my everyday EVOO. For salads, you can get a specialty oil of budget isnt an issue

Red Wine Vinegar: Regina is decent and not to expensive

CHEESE DOESNT COME IN A CAN!!!! You dont have to use too much cheese and dry cheese are much lower in fat content and give a huge flavor boost.

Good Seasons: I used to mix my own seasoning but this is a good premade season mix.


Stay away from Blue Cheese, Ranch, Creamy Italian, etc. These pack the calories.
 
Yeah I thought salad would be ok, but the calories are on the menu and the salads have 900+ calories...

I know there isn't a magic bullet for this, I guess I just wanted to vent. Any suggestions on healthy restaurants? I can manage something ok an Panera Bread (especially in the summer since the salad with the strawberries, blueberries, oranges, etc is amazing) but its the only thing I can think of. We don't have much around here maybe we just don't have the healthy restaurants.

BTW I would love to send him alone... I doubt he would like that but then I would also get some time to myself to just be home. I do much better at getting things done when I don't have someone to distract me.

Maybe suggest to him that he goes with a friend or two on those nights for a "boys night out" sort of deal? That way you can easily excuse yourself and not have to deal with it.

When it comes to eating out, I really like the Eat This, Not That series. It takes into account that sometimes you are stuck eating somewhere and selects the best options from the menu. Most importantly, it warns you against items that seem healthy but really are not (like the salads as you found out). Another good book for quick reference is Calorie King. It gives you calories, carbs, sodium, fat, ect for many different items at different restaurants.
 












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