Serious faith questions.....

TinkerPixie

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I guess this is just a vent, I know that there arent any answers.
My Mother is slipping away from us so quickly. Yesterday she fell into a semi comatose state, and I am having a really hard time with it. I dont want to lose her, but I really dont understand why a merciful God would let this happen. It would be so much easier on her, and us to have it over. I feel so guilty saying that, but her suffering this way isn't helping anyone. There aren't any lessons to be learned, I cant see that God has any reason to let her linger here.
I am learning that death is not pretty, nor is it peaceful. My mother is not going gently into that goodnight, she is being dragged slowly and painfully across what seems to be an endless gaping chasm of indignity and misery.

Where is God? I dont think I know anymore.:(
 
My mother is not going gently into that goodnight
I like that Dylan Thomas poem.

I'm sorry your mom is in such pain.:( Is she ready to go? Is she raging against the light? Is she worried about leaving you?

Perhaps God is wanting you to look at how strong your faith in him is?

I am so sorry this is so hard on you. I can't even begin to fathom the depths of your pain right now.:( {{hugs}}
 
I don't have any answers for you, but I know exactly where you are coming from. I have gone through the long, painful loss of a loved one and I never did come to grips with why it had to be that way.

Here are some ((((((HUGS))))))) and good thoughts coming your way to help you through this difficult time.
 
Tinker, I'm saddened to read of your mother's downward course. There certainly is nothing beautiful or edifying about death. I just hope that the team caring for her is doing everything possible to assure her comfort.

I resonate with your thoughts about GOD. I've come to the same conclusions after painfully sitting with many patients as they were dying. However, the DIS RIGHTEOUS don't like to hear such "talk". They may offer their sympathy and prayers in sweet posts...... while cursing your '"questioning" behind the scenes. Such members "appear" to be all sweetness and light but also are unaware of their capacity for intolerance and evil.

Stay strong. Much love to you,
 

I'm so sorry about your mom, TinkerPixie. i wish i had an answer for you. Please stay strong during this difficult time and be with your precious and dear mom all you can.
 
I'm so sorry TinkerPixie. I can't imagine what it must feel like to see and feel the pain of your mother. Maybe some day there will be an answer to your question. {{{{Hugs}}}} :(
 
Tinker, you're right, the answers you are looking for can only come from you. No amount of discussion will convince you one way or another, unless you feel it.
I went through a similar thing with my mom and if you need to talk, feel free to p/m me or whatever. {{{hugs}}}
 
I wish there was some answer to this that made sense to you and to us all. :(

I am keeping your mom and you in my thoughts today.
 
TinkerPixie
First let me say how sorry I am that you're having to contend with your Mom's condition. There are few things harder in life than to lose a parent, especially a Mother, as most of us hold very fond and loving memories of how our Mothers always cared and took care of us when we were hurt or things were bad.

I think it maybe due to the emotions you're feeling right now (understandably) that you're wondering where God is. I believe God is with you and you're Mom right now. We often wonder why God isn't doing whatever it is that we'd wished he would do...that to is only natural and beautifully human. I don't know if this is your case...but I've seen many instances similar that the ill person simply wasn't "ready" to go yet...sometimes they need to be told that it's "OK" ....I believe that some may be worried about the loved ones they'll leave behind.

The very fact that you ask the question of your faith means that it's important to you...open your heart and mind to the understanding that the Peace of God passes all understanding...and that when the time is 'right' God's will, will comfort you're Mom.

This quote is from another post on this thread;
They may offer their sympathy and prayers in sweet posts...... while cursing your '"questioning" behind the scenes.

...Please ignor that as a biased statement. Most people (All that I've 'met' here) have always been sincerely concerned for others...and the compassion that "they've" expressed has always been heartfelt.

My prayers and thoughts will be with you, your family and your Mom. :)
 
I wish I had an answer for you Tink but I don't. I do believe in God and I think everything happns for a reason. Your mom is there to give you strenght. I question God myself and I know that isn't right but sometimes I just wanna know WHY. My prayers are with you, your mom and your family, you will get through this, cherish your mom and all the memories from the past you have, she was always your angel above and she always will be.
 
I'm so sorry you're going through this. Have you discussed the pain issue with doctors? She shouldn't be in pain.
 
Susan, I am so very sorry to hear this. Your thoughts are completely understandable. When my mom was sick I felt the exact way you do. How could God do this to someone? I also didn't understand how God could make the family suffer so by watching this happen to her. This is not a question I can answer for you at all, as others said it does have to come within, but I do admit just talking about it to others can help. Just know you are not the only one to have gone through it and because of my mom's death I went through a range of emotions and questions about God and for a while I did not think he could exist to have done what he did to my mom and our family. I did a ton of soul searching over a period of 3 years and with the help of my DH (we were just dating at the time) and a few friends, I found the answers that I was looking for.

I wonder as MaryAnn did about the pain relief for your mom. Towards the end of my mom's life she was on moprhine to help ease the physical pain for her. It helped her have a quiet and peaceful death whereas I know otherwise she would have had a very painful one. Talk to her doctors to see what can be done.

My heart goes out to you and my thoughts and prayers are with you right now. If you want to talk more, feel free to PM me. {{{hugs}}}
 
I also wish I had the answers for you. Our life sometimes is full of such anguish and heartache as we watch out loved ones suffer and yes I've questioned God before, and I wish I could say I always hear him. Sometimes the anger we feel prevents us from feeling his presences. He is with you, and your Mom, always remember, God watched His Own Son suffer.

Tinker Your Mom and you are in my thoughts and prayers. I wish there was more I could do.
 
TinkerPixie: I know exactly how you're feeling.. My Dad died an extremely painful death (from colon cancer) and it was the worst thing I ever witnessed in my life.. I had the same questions that you did.. I couldn't understand why God was making him suffer like that.. Finally I just decided to stop praying for my Dad to get well, stop praying that he would have a pain-free day, and instead started praying that he would die immediately and God would take him home.. It was a difficult thing for me to do - praying that my father would die - but I prayed for his death on a Monday afternoon and early that Monday evening he passed on..

I don't know what the "moral" of that story is.. I don't know if I finally asked God for the "right" thing or what, but I never felt God wasn't there - just that He wasn't listening.. He proved me wrong..

I will pray for your Mom's gentle passing and I'll say a prayer for you as well.. My heart really does go out to you..

Hugs,
C.Ann
 
I have no answers, only thoughts and prayers that your mother will pass quietly with as little pain as possible. My father also suffered a great deal before dying. It was a major blessing when he finally died. My heart goes out to you.
 
im so sorry, hard times like this let you know if your real are not, the real dont allways understand but still follow
 
I'm so sorry to hear your Mom is in such pain. {{{{{HUGS}}}}} and many positive thoughts coming your way.
 
My heartfelt sympathies to you during this difficult time. I watched both of my much-loved in-laws die last year of cancer, so I can empathize with you.

I too questioned at times why God was letting them go through their pain and anguish. I have come to realize that God is not a magician that does the tricks we want Him to. I think that is where we humans fall off the track. We have human, finite minds, and God is an infinite being. Just because DisneyDoll, or EROS, or Jason Lyons thinks God should do things our way, doesn't mean it's going to happen. When you say "The Lord's Prayer", you say "Thy will be done". We aren't God, we don't know His will, and with our little human minds, we won't understand His will until we are with Him. Faith is the step that lets you realize that even though we don't always understand the "why" of why God is doing something, we still believe that ultimately, He knows what He is doing. I'm not trying to sound preachy. I am just giving you the conclusions I arrived at after a year of caring for two very dear people who died.

As far as pain, she shouldn't be in any. Talk to her MD today about increased pain medicine, and if he/she won't do it, find an MD who will. If she is in the hospital, and her MD won't cooperate with increased pain relief, speak to the nursing unit supervisor and bring it to the Ethics Committe. Threaten to make enough noise, and I guarantee you that your mom won't be in pain.
 
Tinkerpixie,
I am so very sorry to hear this about your Mom. I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers, asking for comfort for you both. I really like Disney Doll's post above mine. I watched for 3 weeks last year, my FIL, who suffered one bad setback after another until he passed away. There is nothing easy about it. He was the best grandparent my DD has and I remember asking God why He had to take him from her. I have no answers for that question or why he suffered as he did. I do remember DH keeping on the doctors and nurses so that Pop wouldn't be in any pain. I hope you can do the same for your mom.
Prayer isn't about asking God to do things for us our way as much as it is about asking God to help us be more accepting of His will. I easily forget this during times like these. God is with you, please never doubt that. Your faith can grow from this devastating experience or it can die. I hope you'll continue to seek Him and pour out your heart and concerns to Him. He is there. He says He is and God NEVER lies. Many {{{hugs}}} to you, Susan.
 
My heart goes out to you in this very trying time. We all question our faith when in times of trials. I have found that looking back in these times that the Lord was always there. I could point it out in many different ways. I always wished that I had seen it then.

Just this weekend I was talking with people about the person I have become and that I would not be who I was if it were not for the good and bad things that happened in my life.

The following story is my personal story of when my mother passed away at the age of 45. I just want to warn you first that it could be very painful for you to read right now, but there is a shining light at the end of the story, so I felt it would be good to at least post it.

I posted this a month or so ago on the Circle of Life Board. It's still there entitled, "When the Lord Closes a door..."




15 years ago, my 44 year old mother found a lump in her breast. She told no one as my wedding was in 7 months and she was a very private person. In February, 1987, two months before my wedding, this tumor burst while she was at work. She was taken to the hospital, where a mastectomy was instantly performed-the breast was so mangled, there was no other choice. My father was informed that the cancer had mestastitized to the liver and only he was told that she had six months to live. He kept this completely to himself for many months.

Mom, over the course of the next few months, during a process of chemotherapy, watched me walk down the isle, took a dream trip with Dad up and down the California coast and most importantly, accepted her Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

In September, 1987, already one month past her due date for death, my father told me that the cancer was in her liver and she had no chance for survival, and that the doctors told him she should have been dead already. He had been living with this by himself, for all this time, but that's another story.

The day my father told me this, I called my husband and asked him to hurry home straight after work, when I informed him and begged him to let us have a baby, so my mom could have a grandchild before she died. Grandchildren were her fondest dream. After quite a soul search on my husbands part, he agreed that we would try to get pregnant. Six more months went by before I finally was pregnant. I headed straight to moms and told her. She was going downhill at this point, but was overjoyed.

I was three months pregnant with my mothers first grandchild when she died. I held her in my arms while she took her last breath and that grandbaby was tightly pressed against her. Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" was softly playing in the background.

It is said that when the Lord closes a door, somewhere he opens a window.

My doctors told me I was to have a baby boy. I said no. I was having a girl and she was to be named for her beautiful grandmother.

Six months later, I gave birth to an extraordinary baby girl, who had the same unique blue/purple eye color as her grandmother.

Over the 14 years since this unbelievable person came into my life, I have had every person who has come into contact with her, exclaim what an extraordinary person she is. Gifted, humble, beautiful and a unique gift. I have never heard anything negative about this child. That is not a mother talking. If you knew her, you would understand.

The door?---my mother's death
The window?---my baby girl

The inspiration?---I was never going to have children. If my mother did not die, I would not have this child. A hard gift to bear, but a lesson in love and life I have come to realize was the blessing born of tragedy that changed my life. The Lord lives strongly in my life and my mother is the angel watching and smiling. She has her granddaughter and sees her all the time.

I always have my mother.


Tinkerpixie-She will never leave you. Neither will the Lord. It's His will to follow--and our lesson to learn in time. There are joys ahead.

Many prayers for you. It is so hard. {{{HUGS}}}
 














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