Seats on the bus

[daisyduck123]

but, maybe the "kind" thing for you to do for your children, is to wait for the next bus. Why would you depend on strangers to make sure you and your children are comfortable?

ita!

 

[smidgy]

I would never hand my child to a stranger on a bus.

so, who should get the seat? the grandma, the grandma with the toddler or the young chick with the toddler, and the grandma stands?

 

[smidgy]

I would never hand my child to a stranger on a bus.

the reason I asked this is because it happens all the time. someone sees a young , fit woman, holding a toddler.
they say, "I will be glad to hold your child"... "NO! I don't know you! I will only sit WITH my child!"

next thing you know, the young 32 year old is sitting with the kid, and the 62 year old is standing.

same thing with parades or illuminations

we had this happen with us at illuminations. we "staked out " spots 45 minute ahead of time. it was satrting to rain. just before, a family with 2 kids were right behind us.


gee, 2 little kids.. hey... your kids can be in front of us.

now, the kids are crying, they want mommy and daddy. we try to say, um, no, we were here for a long time, , next thing you know, the mom and dad are IN FRONT of us, with their umbrellas, and, once again ...

No good deed goes unpunished!!!!

 

[Hannathy]

ok, you are young, 30 something. with a sleeping toddler. I am a 50 something grandma. what if I offer to hold your child on my lap? just food for thought...

You know I'm close to your age, not a grandma yet but we used to do just this!

People used to hold other peoples kids. I don't know why this current generation is so paranoid but we did this and had it done to us and it worked. I can remember as a child sitting with older ladies on the bus when it was crowded.

What do you think is going to happen to a toddler sitting on a grandmas lap with you within a few inches? they aren't going anywhere. and it is a very good compromise. Of course our Parents handled life with a lot more common sense than is used now a days.

I would have let you hold my kids!

 

[prfctlyximprfct]

I love how everyone complains for a seat on the bus when they just spent the whole day walking around a theme park. If you walked all day, you can stand for 30 minutes. GOSH PEOPLE stop complaining!

 

[Mommy2Jameson]

How many threads about this??

You don't have to get on the bus, you can always wait for the next one. When I have my sleepy/sleeping DS with me, I always get to the front of the bus line and let people pass if I'm not sure about getting a seat. Doesn't take much longer for the next bus to come. Then, we get on that bus and have a seat.

THIS! If the bus looks packed, we just wait! Would rather wait the extra 5-10 minutes and know we have a seat!

 

[smidgy]

ok, you are young, 30 something. with a sleeping toddler. I am a 50 something grandma. what if I offer to hold your child on my lap? just food for thought...

I would never hand my child to a stranger on a bus.

so ,given these 2 options. my only option is, give up my seat to the young 30 something and her toddler, while grandma stands. or be considered rude.

guess what? you either trust this granny to hold your kid so you don't have to hold your sleeping kid, OR you hold your sleeping kid. YOU are the rude one, for thinking your young legs are more important than mine. who had the seat first . and was offering a fair compromise. and you wanted ALL or nothing ... and.. WHO is rude?

 

[TinkGirl28]

I felt the need to post a reply as someone who is in my 20's and appears to be able bodied, but is not. By looking at me, you would think I was perfectly healthy and able bodied. However, I suffer from severe plantar fascitis in both feet and have a hard time standing still for more than about two minutes without extreme pain. I don't take the bus because we rent a car, but if I did I would not give up my seat. After 14-15 hours on my feet, they feel as though they have been ripped to shreds. I would be irritated if someone expected me to get up just because I looked healthy. So always remember that you don't know each persons situation. Now that being said, if I didn't have foot problems, I would gladly give up my seat to an elderly or disabled person.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

This summer we stayed at AKL for the first time. The buses were incredible and ran like clockwork -- the longest we ever waited for a bus was less than 10 minutes and that was just once for our entire trip. With that said -- there were some issues at park close.

Typically, we will wait for the next bus but this one time we chose to board a packed standing room only bus. There was a pregnant woman w/toddler standing along with a family of six - mom, dad and four kids -- the youngest looked to be around 3 and the oldest appeared to be 7 or 8. No one offered a seat to anyone. And from my observation, no one who was standing expected a seat.

MK to AKL is a long ride when your standing -- it was a real bummer. I was annoyed to see at least three strollers taking up seats. I also saw a couple purposely sit a seat apart to make room for the baby bag. But what really made me angry was when we finally arrived back at AKL, I could not believe it when I saw people literally shove their stroller(s) in the aisle and others who attempted to block or cut off the people who were standing for the entire ride -- in order to exit the bus first. All of us who were standing almost had fight our way to get off the bus.

Also, on another night after Illuminations -- we boarded an unusually hot bus. This guy sitting next to me kept brushing his leg against mine. This was SO beyond gross. His legs were dripping wet with sweat and had this sharp prickly kind of hair that kept scratching up my legs. I was so offended -- I looked at him and asked, "Do you mind?" He quickly apologized but it never stopped. His wife couldn't see what he was doing because the bus was so dark.






Never Again.





The End.

 

[smidgy]

MK to AKL is a long ride when your standing -- it was a real bummer. I was annoyed to see at least three strollers taking up seats. I also saw a couple purposely sit a seat apart to make room for the baby bag. But what really made me angry was when we finally arrived back at AKL, I could not believe it when I saw people literally shove their stroller(s) in the aisle and others who attempted to block or cut off the people who were standing for the entire ride -- in order to exit the bus first. All of us who were standing almost had fight our way to get off the bus.
d:

this. is why people get upset with families with kids. the entitlements they think they have.

those who are fortunate enough to have seats on the bus should wait until those who had to stand get off first!!!

if you have strollers.. relax, hubby and the RV of strollers will not go anywhere \without you... let all those other folks who were standing get off first.

and, again!! your stroller does NOT require a seat! nor does your diaper bag, backpack, weekend full of supplies, etc. put in ON YOUR LAP..

 

[Jey12]

I have never felt entitled to someone else's seat on a bus. I will without question get up everytime for an elderly person, physically disabled person or a young child. I will not get up for a pregnant woman, but if it was a pregnant woman holding a small child I would get up, only because of the small child.

For me not only was I raised to stand when there are others that need to sit, but I was also raised that this is just a simple matter of respect and good manners. I don't think everyone has to believe this way it's just my own personal opinion.

Yes they could have waited for another bus, yes they could have planned the end of their day a little better. Yes maybe they should have rented a car, yes maybe they should have left the park sooner, yes maybe they might have saved a bunch if they'd switched to Geico. I don't know and honesty I'm not going to sit there and analyze all of that. The fact is they are on the bus at that moment, and at that moment if I can obviously see they are older, or in need of a seat more than myself I am not going to think I am simply going to stand up and offer my seat.

Now I don't expect a round of applause or the entire bus to break out into song about what I've done either. Again it's just how I was raised and how I'll raise my daughter. DH will also do the same without question. If we get on a bus that's crowded and does not have seats available I do not expect anyone to stand for me. I simply find a spot I can lean, because I have two awful knees and balance on a bus can be an issue, or we'll wait for the next one.

Again all just my opinion and how I was raised. I'd fear if I didn't get up somehow my grandmother would find out and flick my ear as soon as she saw me next.


I also agree standing people off first. Last on, first off, your hotel isn't going to sneak away from you.

 

[Guyton dis lover]

We just returned from a wonderful 8 day trip and Disney didn't disappoint. However the some other attendees did. I just wonder what self respecting able bodied 20 or 30 something sits comfortably in a seat while a sleepy 4 year old or woman holding a sleeping 2 year old has to stand.

Most people were wonderful and I watched many a 60 something express their sadness about their inability to offer up their seat. As usual it was just a select few and we certainly didn't let in ruin our trip. Just wanted to encourage all future Disney travelers would think twice before sitting on the bus.

I will give my seat up to some one in need. I have seen this WDW and of course you can not blame wdw for the lack of manors that most folks display now a days . Welcome to the me Generation. Down south we call this Common and low rent. The thing that always gets me is that some moms and dads allow this to happen with the kids. Good Luck and I will keep this thread in mind while I am at Disney in December. I will give you a follow up report.

 

[TravelGrl]

I am not going to feel bad or apologize for occupying a seat which I had waited for at the end of a night. My husband and I are able bodied, but with the amount of walking we do in WDW, our feet burn in pain after a number of days and we have to take breaks during the day massaging our aching feet. The vacation that we take, is one we look forward to all year long and save up our hard earned money for. Just like anyone else. There is no reason for anyone to give up their seat for us, or vice versa.
By the end of the day, if we don't think we can stand on a bus, we will purposely wait for the next one. People getting on the more crowded bus, will likely stand, even if they are with young children. It is their choice to do so. We never push or shove our way ahead of other people. Always say please and thank you when necessary (there are many who don't, I know I have been pushed on vacations many times, by adults and little kids). We wait our turn and will take an available seat and remain there until we reach our destination. If other people make a decision to get on a full bus, they are probably going to stand until they reach their destination.
When we sit on a monorail bench, we sit close together to allow as many people as possible to sit as well. If someone happens to board after the seats are taken, they will likely stand regardless of age etc. People in wheelchairs board the buses first and will sit no matter what, which is the way that it should be. Others get on the bus in the order of their arrival to the bus stop and make a decision to get on when they do. It is a matter of personal responsibility.

I also noticed that the OP only has 10 posts so far so perhaps he hasn't read many of these posts before. But it is unfair of anyone to expect anyone else to behave by your morals. The sleeping child's feet may be in better shape than ours because they spent half the day at the pool or in a carriage. Or the parents could have come back to the resort earlier if they felt that the child was going to be up past their bed time.

People who do give up their seat, in a way are doing so to feel better about themselves.

 

[WantToGoNow]

We sometimes wait for another bus if the one that comes is full - and if we wait, we will sit. Sometimes we stand if we don't want to wait. When we load that full standing-room only bus, we expect to stand. I have stood while my kids were babies and toddlers and preschoolers and now elementary school-aged, I have stood while my dh or my dd27 sits (heart condition that you can't see from the outside), I have actually let strangers hold my children when offered (I am right there, what's going to to happen to them). I am not entitled to anything that I can't arrange for my own family. If I want a guaranteed seat, I'll rent a car.

 

[justakrazymom]

How many threads about this??

You don't have to get on the bus, you can always wait for the next one. When I have my sleepy/sleeping DS with me, I always get to the front of the bus line and let people pass if I'm not sure about getting a seat. Doesn't take much longer for the next bus to come. Then, we get on that bus and have a seat.

THIS! We had 3 sleepy kids with us, and we never crammed into a bus.. we would let people ahead of us so we could be 1st on the next bus.

I always make sure my youngest is in my lap though so there is one less seat being taken up. Also my dh,17 year old and my 9 year old regularly gave up seats for small kiddos.. but no one has the right to expect us to!

 

[nhl66pens]

This is a no win thread. There are too many variances to make blanket statements to cover all situations. I think the best you can do is to evaluate the situation and make the choice that feels right to you. Consult the "blue fairy" inside yourself and if you're comfortable with your choice that should be the right decision.

 

[stargazertechie]

You know I'm close to your age, not a grandma yet but we used to do just this!

People used to hold other peoples kids. I don't know why this current generation is so paranoid but we did this and had it done to us and it worked. I can remember as a child sitting with older ladies on the bus when it was crowded.

What do you think is going to happen to a toddler sitting on a grandmas lap with you within a few inches? they aren't going anywhere. and it is a very good compromise. Of course our Parents handled life with a lot more common sense than is used now a days.

I would have let you hold my kids!

Thank you! I'm only 20-something but I remember other ladies holding me on crowded buses in the past. Heck, a few trips ago I was injured and could not stand for any length of time, so I offered to hold kids. A few parents took me
up on it, DH and the parents had a great conversation, and I got to point out all of the cool sights that we passed to the kid.

It's not like someone is going to jump out of a bus doing 55 MPH with your child. For cryin' out loud- if the bus is so full that it's standing room only, that person would have to shove their way out of the bus in the first place. And that's obviously not gonna happen with 20 other mamma bears in the way.

 

[Mrsjvb]

We just returned from a wonderful 8 day trip and Disney didn't disappoint. However the some other attendees did. I just wonder what self respecting able bodied 20 or 30 something sits comfortably in a seat while a sleepy 4 year old or woman holding a sleeping 2 year old has to stand.
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sorry but having procreated is not a free pass to get a seat on any mode of public transportation. your child is no more deserving of a seat than any other park attendee. period. nor are you entitled to one simply because you are holding 20 or 30 pounds of sleeping child.

I haven't read the several pages of replies so I am quire sure the old 'do not assume that people do not have hidden disabilities' card has been played as well. and every other argument for and against.

Bottom line the only thing worse than playing the "woe is me I'm disabled and you all need to grant me every courtesy and cater to my every whim' card is the " hey! I am a parent you need to treat my offspring as Royalty cuz we are at Disney and Disney is aallllll about the Famblees( which consist of 2 heterosexual parents and mini mes only) card

 

[sharona]

The attitudes expressed by many in this thread are the #1 reason to rent a car at WDW. For an extra $150 or so for the week you can avoid all of this bs.

 

[Cruz91]

You are all right.

Yes, people sitting are perfectly within their rights to stay seated. (That's a fact)

Yes, people who do so and who are not medically required to do so are rude, understanding that sometimes "medically required" cannot "be seen". (That's an opinion)

Ergo, it's rude to "assume" that someone who is sitting is being rude. (Also an opinion)

Having said all of that, I like CheshireFig's idea of seating only - but I'd modify that slightly. Have two qeueu's in the bus area. One is for standing-room-only. Like the single-rider line on many attractions, the SRO line would go faster (incentivizing the able-bodied folks to stand), and the folks who need seating would be assured a seat.