Seats on the bus

[Bonniec]

That's a nice story Scrapquilter!

 

[Banzai]

I am "able bodied" and 25, and I frequently give up seat to Granny, and I will often give it to a child.

However, I am not quite sure why I do it. I waited in the same queue as you did to catch the bus home.

I can remember how pretty it was the first time I saw Tomorrowland light up at night, because my family didn't force us to stay in the parks when were were too tired to stand on a bus to get home the first trip. I don't feel too bad when parents have to hold their children on the bus, as they were the ones who kept them out until they (both the parent and child) are worn out and cranky. That isn't my problem.

I am also a firm believer in waiting. If you don't want to stand, by all means wait for the next bus, they tend to come every 15 - 20 minutes, and even more frequently at the end of the day.

So if you don't want to stand on the bus, don't. There are options. And depending on how tired I am after walking around Epcot all day, I may or may not be one of them.

 

[leeliani]

I was pleasantly surprised how wonderful the people were on the bus. I have three small children, 7, 4, and 2. I never expected anyone to offer me a seat. I was prepared to hold a sleeping child while standing. I was amazed, though, how many people offered me a seat. I have only stood up holding a sleeping child once, and for how many packed buses I've been in that is amazing. I think there are still many kind people out there, and don't worry, if you don't offer me a seat I won't give you the stink-eye or pass judgement on you. I chose to get on the bus with standing room only. My theory is I would rather be standing moving toward my bed than standing waiting for a bus.

 

[5forDis]

I'm sorry but when did getting pregnant become a disability? Yes, you might be cranky, and irritable and tired. BUT pregnancy is a choice ya know. And there are 40 other people on the same bus that are just as tired, just as cranky.

My idea is, i'll give my seat up for an elderly person, a pregnant woman or any other that does need it more than I do. BUT i'm one with the "hidden disability". I'm type one diabetic, if my blood sugar is low, I cannot stand for a long period of time. I will wait for the next bus in order to get a seat if need be. But i will not give up my seat that I waited for because you can't see my hidden disability.

Heather-I was not saying I was tired, cranky, irritable or disabled by being pregnant. I can assure you that there were not 40 other people in the same physical state as I was when pregnant. Pregnancy is a choice---yes. Going to Disney World is a choice, too. Having a child fall asleep is also a choice (could have left earlier---this was midday so I really was thinking we'd be back to the condo before nap time), according to many of you. Whatever---I choose to offer my seat to parents holding small children, elders, and I am raising my kids with the same manners. Basic manners are a choice, too.

BTW, I could say you also have the choice to monitor & manage your blood sugars so as to not unexpectedly have a drop while on the bus. Much like I should have known my 2 yr old was going to fall asleep midday while walking back to the bus.

Like I said, we rent a car and 99% of the time avoid the bus mentality in Disney World. I didn't get angry about standing on the bus while pregnant---I was just happy a bus showed up. My husband was angry enough about it to call and get a car. He was surprised by the lack of manners parents have instilled and are instlling in their kids (teens and up).

Enjoy your bus rides!

 

[BigYellowShoes]

Heather-I was not saying I was tired, cranky, irritable or disabled by being pregnant. I can assure you that there were not 40 other people in the same physical state as I was when pregnant. Pregnancy is a choice---yes. Going to Disney World is a choice, too. Having a child fall asleep is also a choice (could have left earlier---this was midday so I really was thinking we'd be back to the condo before nap time), according to many of you. Whatever---I choose to offer my seat to parents holding small children, elders, and I am raising my kids with the same manners. Basic manners are a choice, too.

BTW, I could say you also have the choice to monitor & manage your blood sugars so as to not unexpectedly have a drop while on the bus. Much like I should have known my 2 yr old was going to fall asleep midday while walking back to the bus.

Like I said, we rent a car and 99% of the time avoid the bus mentality in Disney World. I didn't get angry about standing on the bus while pregnant---I was just happy a bus showed up. My husband was angry enough about it to call and get a car. He was surprised by the lack of manners parents have instilled and are instlling in their kids (teens and up).

Enjoy your bus rides!

5forDis--excellent way to put it! Thank you for that! As I said before.......MANNERS.

 

[kirrrby]

Heather-I was not saying I was tired, cranky, irritable or disabled by being pregnant. I can assure you that there were not 40 other people in the same physical state as I was when pregnant. Pregnancy is a choice---yes. Going to Disney World is a choice, too. Having a child fall asleep is also a choice (could have left earlier---this was midday so I really was thinking we'd be back to the condo before nap time), according to many of you. Whatever---I choose to offer my seat to parents holding small children, elders, and I am raising my kids with the same manners. Basic manners are a choice, too.

BTW, I could say you also have the choice to monitor & manage your blood sugars so as to not unexpectedly have a drop while on the bus. Much like I should have known my 2 yr old was going to fall asleep midday while walking back to the bus.

Like I said, we rent a car and 99% of the time avoid the bus mentality in Disney World. I didn't get angry about standing on the bus while pregnant---I was just happy a bus showed up. My husband was angry enough about it to call and get a car. He was surprised by the lack of manners parents have instilled and are instlling in their kids (teens and up).

Enjoy your bus rides!

TBH, must have overlooked your post. I wasn't referring to you specifically. Actually referring to an earlier thread where a Pregnant woman wanted a GAC for simply being pregnant.

 

[smidgy]

This doesn't surprise me. The older generations care more about manners in general. Manners are severely lacking nowadays. It's always about doing what is best for you and screw everyone else. It also makes it hard to teach your children why they have to be polite and give things up when no one else does. But what can ya do? we just go in expecting the rudeness from guests. We try to be polite wherever possible. And when someone goes out of their way for us, I make sure they know how thankful we are.

And sexist or not, my boys will always give up their seat or open a door for a girl. Screw equality. In my household, hubby and I are equal on some levels but he still has his manly duties and I still have my womanly duties. I.e. If I see a spider....his manly butt will take care of it!


ETA: sure seems like a lot of people are anti kids at Disney. Maybe kids just shouldn't be allowed to go. Or only during certain hours. sheesh....I'm goin to bed, lol.

had to repsond.. what is "manly" about killing a bug? (and spiders aren't even bugs). I would kill them, over hubby, but I leave them be.. they kill those nasty flies.

you keep to your "womanly" duties. hubby and I are equal. and, since he has had 5 foot surgeries, and I am used to being on my feet (as a waitress and bartender), I try really hard to get him to sit on the inside, so he doesn't feel the need to offer his seat to someone who insisted on getting on a standing room only bus.

but,w e usually both stand, we are 55 and 57. had a younger guyoffer me his seat, but I gave it to a young child. I can stand forever.. used to it. (the arthritis in hubbys foot and ankle, and all those pins and staples.. not so much) but he stands.. but if we do get a seat, sometimes he just can't give it up.

kids? geesh! unless they are toddlers, I would think kids were taught to give up seats for the elders.

I would never assume about anyone. people do what they do, and have their reasons. we never wait for another bus to sit.. but MANY people do. and IF they do choose to then they should not have to give up their seat to someone who chose to get on a SRO bus.

what peeves me is, when we just want to get back to the resort, even standing... but can't get onto a bus because .. you can see there is plenty standing room towards the back, but people won't move all the way back. some guy with a double stroller won't keep moving to the back, and meet up with the rest of the family at the resort. nope.. my family is sitting here, and I am going to stand RIGHT here.

In summation, if the bus is crowded, hubby and I almost always stand. we jsut want to get back to the resort.

so, please.. move ALL the way to the back.

and.. if someone keeps the seat they got, for whatever reason, it is NOT for you to judge.

oh yeah. your diaper bag doesn't need a seat, nor does your bag of goodies, or your 2 year old can sit on your lap, he doesn't need his own seat.

I say these things because., ilke I say hubby and I ALMOST always give up our seat on a crowded bus.

 

[smidgy]

I was pleasantly surprised how wonderful the people were on the bus. I have three small children, 7, 4, and 2. I never expected anyone to offer me a seat. I was prepared to hold a sleeping child while standing. I was amazed, though, how many people offered me a seat. I have only stood up holding a sleeping child once, and for how many packed buses I've been in that is amazing. I think there are still many kind people out there, and don't worry, if you don't offer me a seat I won't give you the stink-eye or pass judgement on you. I chose to get on the bus with standing room only. My theory is I would rather be standing moving toward my bed than standing waiting for a bus.

ok, you are young, 30 something. with a sleeping toddler. I am a 50 something grandma. what if I offer to hold your child on my lap? just food for thought...

 

[smidgy]

I was pleasantly surprised how wonderful the people were on the bus. I have three small children, 7, 4, and 2. I never expected anyone to offer me a seat. I was prepared to hold a sleeping child while standing. I was amazed, though, how many people offered me a seat. I have only stood up holding a sleeping child once, and for how many packed buses I've been in that is amazing. I think there are still many kind people out there, and don't worry, if you don't offer me a seat I won't give you the stink-eye or pass judgement on you. I chose to get on the bus with standing room only. My theory is I would rather be standing moving toward my bed than standing waiting for a bus.

My son is 11. We (myself and husband) fully expect he will stand and offer his seat to an elder or a small child if we happen to be on a Disney bus (hope not) or a crowded Monorail. We don't ride Disney buses any longer---we rent a car even when staying on-site. I remember one specific trip getting on the bus to Old Key West and being 6 + months pregnant with a double stroller for my toddler and preschooler. I was holding the sleeping toddler and dh had the preschooler in his arms. No one got up from their seats (simple manners when you see a pregnant woman holding a sleeping child)---please, save me lectures on 'hidden or invisible disabilities' because I am not buying that the entire bus had them. As soon as we got back to our condo, DH called and had a rental car brought to us.

The funny thing is that the only people offering seats were older folks who needed them more than I did.

We would have loved to wait for the next bus but the buses were arriving sporadically and we didn't want to wait another 45 minutes. Hopefully, the bus system is running more smoothly than it was in Dec. 2004.

I tried it again with my 68 yr old mother and 5 yr old daughter last year (Oct 2010) & it reminded me why we avoid using the buses. We waited for about 45 minutes in 90 degree heat.

again. you would not know my hubby has his foot crushed, bones turned to mush, and numerous foot surgeries, by looking at him. and the arthritis setting in.. to the numerous nails and staples into the rebuilt foot.


YOU don't know.. . fact.

and I can't believe you are surprised that it is 90 degrees in florida. but it is the same temperature for everyone.

again, we almost always stand, even with the bum foot. even if we initailly get seats. but, if you need to sit, wait for the next bus. cause maybe this is the one bus ride we decide, "
that's it. we're sitting" and some young punk gives hubby the stink eye for getting off his throbbing foot, while his able bodied 30 year old wife has to stand.

 

[quirty30]

Let's face it. Sometimes we all overdo it at WDW and stay at the parks til we're exhausted and our legs & feet hurt, and our kids are tired, cranky and up way past their bedtimes. We all want to sit down on that bus. As others have stated, we all have the option in the first place to rent a car or, if we haven't done that, we can wait for the next bus and assure ourselves a seat.

 

[Mama Who]

ok, you are young, 30 something. with a sleeping toddler. I am a 50 something grandma. what if I offer to hold your child on my lap? just food for thought...

I would never hand my child to a stranger on a bus.

 

[Sammie]

The choice to stand is yours when you get on the bus, if you don't want to stand wait for the next bus. You also have the choice to leave before the buses get packed and your child falls asleep. Just saying there is more than one way to look at everything.

 

[Wadecool]

I'm with you. I have no respect for able bodied people who won't give up their seats for young children and elderly.

How exactly do you know who is actually "able bodied"?

 

[Wadecool]

I would also hope you teach him not to judge people he knows nothing about.

Denise in MI

One would hope!

 

[smidgy]

ETA: sure seems like a lot of people are anti kids at Disney. Maybe kids just shouldn't be allowed to go. Or only during certain hours. sheesh....I'm goin to bed, lol.

well, it's not that people are "anti kids". it's just the opposite. there are, obviously, SO many kids at Disney.
the people that amaze me are those that think that, becausethey have kids, it is somehow a free ticket, a "disability", a "priority tcket" etc. etc. ie. we shoud get special treatment, because, after all, we have children.
yeah who doesn't?

there was a youtube video a while back of a man punching the bus driver. he was angry because the driver didn't let his family in before those without children. he was heard yelling "children have priority".

we wer towards the front for a show.. a foreignh group kept pushing their kids in front of us, I know, fill in all the available space, but there WAS no space), but they kept saying, "the children,t he children" then it was, we NEED to be WITH our children... sorry, not buying it.
almost everyone at disney has kids. those of us without are few. you can't give people with kids any kind of priority, for bus lines, ride lines, parades, fireworks, anything. that would be almost everyone!

the rules HAVE to be : first come, first served. I'm sorry your little girl wants to eat with the princesses at Akersheus, and you don't have ADRS, but.. we do.

ALL the children can't be in the front of the line.. ALL the children can't get on the bus first. ALL the children can't sit inthe front for the parade, ALL the children can't sit in the front row for the bird show at AK, etc etc etc. ad nauseum.

ALL the children need to learn how things work in this world.

and yes, if there are children behind me for the parade or Illuminations, they can stand in front.. (but, NOT the parents)..

and I will probably give up my seat for someone who looks like they need it, as will hubby. but.. if we DON'T.. there is a good reason.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

We just returned from a wonderful 8 day trip and Disney didn't disappoint. However the some other attendees did. I just wonder what self respecting able bodied 20 or 30 something sits comfortably in a seat while a sleepy 4 year old or woman holding a sleeping 2 year old has to stand.
.

I always give up my seat if someone is holding a small child or baby. I look at things this way. Yes she should have been paying attention. Yes she should not have boarded knowing there were no seats left and waited for the next one. Yes, she probably should have known her 2 year old would fall asleep. Yes to all those things. people bring up that she should have done. But once she's on the bus and it's moved away from the pick up area That's it. She needs a seat. It doesn't matter how she got there. It doesn't matter why. It doesn't matter if she did something wrong or rude, or inconsiderate. It doesn't matter if I'm tired or a bit sore. She's holding a 2 year old and if something happens and that 2 year old goes down the wrong way, it's all over. All concerns about she shouldn't feel she deserves a seat. She shouldn't have got on, etc etc are secondary at that point. She and the baby need a seat. So anyone able bodied should be giving it up. Common decency requires it.

 

[5forDis]

again. you would not know my hubby has his foot crushed, bones turned to mush, and numerous foot surgeries, buy looking at him. and the arthritis setting in.. to the numerous nails and staples into the rebuilt foot.


YOU don't know.. you don't . fact.

Yikes...I didn't pretend to know about your husband's feet or any individual but statistically speaking there are not buses riding around 100% full of 'hidden' disabled people. I also do not expect every person to move to offer the seat to someone else. I just mentioned what I do, what MY HUSBAND does and what WE expect OUR CHILDREN to do: offer your seat to someone who needs it more. I don't mind standing so it is neutral to me...could care less whether I stand or sit. I did have a preference when I was very pregnant because of the balance shift, but no stink eyes handed out.

and I can't believe you are surprised that it is 90 degrees in florida. butit is
the same temperature for everyone.

When did I say I was surprised by the 90 degree heat (you really need to re read before jumping on someone for something not said)?! Since we own property in Florida and have been going multiple times a year for 40 years, I am quite familiar with the extreme temps. Again, I didn't expect a seat on the bus, I just expected a bus to come within a reasonable time.

I already told you I rent a car for our Disney trips to avoid the buses so I have solved my problem with the buses.

 

[prfctlyximprfct]

I once did not give up my seat for some arrogant mom lady and her kid. The mom kept sighing in my face glaring at me. Yes I am twenty three but I walked all day and your kid sat in a stroller. She then purposely ran over my foot with the stroller when at the resort

 

[EMom]

Let's face it. Sometimes we all overdo it at WDW and stay at the parks til we're exhausted and our legs & feet hurt, and our kids are tired, cranky and up way past their bedtimes. We all want to sit down on that bus. As others have stated, we all have the option in the first place to rent a car or, if we haven't done that, we can wait for the next bus and assure ourselves a seat.

And this is just what we do. I'm not going to play "my reasons are better than yours," but I am NOT standing on a bus. Ever. My DD isn't either. Until this year, DH would have given up his seat, but now that his hip is as bad as someone 30 years older than him, he's going to have to sit too.

For those reasons and others, we always have a car at WDW. But on occasion, we need to take the bus. Sometimes, for example, DH has to stay at the hotel and work, so DD and I take the bus to a park. Or he leaves early and we take the bus back to the hotel. If I see that we are going to have to board a bus that will be so full there will not be room for us to be seated, we let others go ahead of us and we WAIT for another bus. We don't want to wait, but we aren't going to stand. So we have to make a choice. We can control the situation by waiting for a bus that has seats. And I promise you, if I have passed on the chance to board one bus so that I can get a seat on a second bus, I am NOT giving up my seat on that bus. (1) I need that seat for a reason. (2) Anyone and everyone can do the exact same thing we did and WAIT for the next bus so they can have a seat.

 

[smidgy]

And this is just what we do. I'm not going to play "my reasons are better than yours," but I am NOT standing on a bus. Ever. My DD isn't either. Until this year, DH would have given up his seat, but now that his hip is as bad as someone 30 years older than him, he's going to have to sit too.

For those reasons and others, we always have a car at WDW. But on occasion, we need to take the bus. Sometimes, for example, DH has to stay at the hotel and work, so DD and I take the bus to a park. Or he leaves early and we take the bus back to the hotel. If I see that we are going to have to board a bus that will be so full there will not be room for us to be seated, we let others go ahead of us and we WAIT for another bus. We don't want to wait, but we aren't going to stand. So we have to make a choice. We can control the situation by waiting for a bus that has seats. And I promise you, if I have passed on the chance to board one bus so that I can get a seat on a second bus, I am NOT giving up my seat on that bus. (1) I need that seat for a reason. (2) Anyone and everyone can do the exact same thing we did and WAIT for the next bus so they can have a seat.

that is one of my main points. and I have no idea why! cause hubby and I have never done that..(well, now that I think of it, once, whne his foot was REALLY throbbing)

we usually stand at night. but, guess what? I am 55, spent a lot of years workng on these tired old dogs. waitressed and tended bar more years than I care to remember.

if you are a young, spring chicken holding a toddler.. you can either trust me , a grnadma, to hold your toddler on my lap, or you can hold her while standing. why should your young butt get to sit instead of mine? if you choose not to let you toddler sit on my lap. ,... your choice.