SDFP... Here now. Works! *Read Post #48 and Post #671*

[ScrapYap]

I've read this and I think I understand but please be patient with me while I make sure.

I'm going in August with my sister and my daughter. My daughter and I will have MBs for our upcoming trip, plus our MBs from our trip last summer. Since these were all done under the same MDE account, am I correct that I *cannot* use our MBs from last summer as my bands for SDFP?

My husband and our other daughter went with us last summer and I still have their MBs. They are linked to my account and the linked tickets on them have been used up so there are no valid tickets linked to their bands. Can I use their bands for SDFP?

Similarly, my parents went last month and they are on their own MDE account. They have used three of their four park days so they still have one more valid park day on their tickets. Can I use their MBs for SDFP, so long as I am extra careful NOT to use their MBs as my ticket to enter the parks?

Thanks!

You're right. Your bands and your daughter's bands are clones of last year's. No SDFP.

You can use your husband and other daughter's MBs for SDFP at the kiosks.

Your parents' bands are a slightly different issue. Of course, you need to be extra careful not to try to use those MBs to enter the parks -- though the biometrics would stop you if you tried it. Still, mark them clearly with a Sharpie or tie ribbons around them or something. They had non-expiring tickets? Sign into their MDE and try to book a day of FP to confirm that's true. If the ticket is still valid, go ahead and prebook a day of FP for those bands for your upcoming trip (if it's within 30 days) - which you and your daughter will use for FP entry only. (Definitely not park entry, as we established!) No, this will have no effect on their remaining ticket. After you use that set of FP, go into their MDE and book a set of FP for the next day. And so on, each day of your trip. You can only prebook one day at a time because they only have one day's ticket. We call these GLFP (generator linked FP) because the FP is generated by the presence of a ticket on the profiles and can be booked in advance. That's different (and much better than) SDFP - which can only be booked at a kiosk, same day.

 

[mousefan73]

You're right - I read it wrong. @mousefan must have new tickets linked to the old bands for the new trip, so he has everything to lose by lending the bands. It would be too risky for me, anyway.

thanks so much for all your answers and I will check out post above about how to use the kiosks.. Just one more thing.. Yes MY bands I wish to give my friend are as you call them "loaded" I have package , tickets and MNSHHP attached to them ( MDE account). FPs not yet as my window is not open.. My window does open though before his trip, so by that time they will be really laoded.. this is why I am banging my head that I missed out making a new MDE for this year... especially since I live on these boards and I some how didnt get this trick.

So the big question is..... what are the risks then with me giving him my loaded bands.... Can the system erase anything.... ?? I trust him enought NOT to by accident erase my FPs..... Or can he quickly by accident? Trying to think of scenarios where it can mess up my reservation/package.. but that I have paid in full etc... and activating park tickets BEFORE a trip cannot happen as he will not use these enter and normally you have to go to guest services too.

One option would be then to buy cheap gray one...

 

[BookGirl305]

Piping in from the rookie bench, but I wouldn't give him your loaded ones. At the end of it all, it's $13 each person- cost of a quick service lunch, spread over however many days they are there. I'd just let them go buy a new set at the store and do that. If someone wants to take advantage of this situation, they can pony up $13 each to do so. I'd hate to take that chance on your end. But that's just me.

 

[Born 2B a Princess]

You're right. Your bands and your daughter's bands are clones of last year's. No SDFP.

You can use your husband and other daughter's MBs for SDFP at the kiosks.

Your parents' bands are a slightly different issue. Of course, you need to be extra careful not to try to use those MBs to enter the parks -- though the biometrics would stop you if you tried it. Still, mark them clearly with a Sharpie or tie ribbons around them or something. They had non-expiring tickets? Sign into their MDE and try to book a day of FP to confirm that's true. If the ticket is still valid, go ahead and prebook a day of FP for those bands for your upcoming trip (if it's within 30 days) - which you and your daughter will use for FP entry only. (Definitely not park entry, as we established!) No, this will have no effect on their remaining ticket. After you use that set of FP, go into their MDE and book a set of FP for the next day. And so on, each day of your trip. You can only prebook one day at a time because they only have one day's ticket. We call these GLFP (generator linked FP) because the FP is generated by the presence of a ticket on the profiles and can be booked in advance. That's different (and much better than) SDFP - which can only be booked at a kiosk, same day.

Thanks so much! If I use my husband's bands and my other daughter's, do I have to set up a separate MDE account? They're all linked on my account.

My parents have military salute tickets so they have to use their last day by the end of September or sometime in October.

So I can do 30 day advance FP+ with my parents' bands, and SDFP with my husband and daughter's bands?

Btw - I loved the Pride and Prejudice and Star Trek references in your initial explanation post. Two of my favorites....and yeah, Wickham is still a knave....

 

[hiroMYhero]

So the big question is..... what are the risks then with me giving him my loaded bands.... Can the system erase anything.... ?? I trust him enought NOT to by accident erase my FPs..... Or can he quickly by accident?

The main risk is that he enters the park by using your set of MBs. There goes a day of ticket entitlements and one day's worth of FPs gets deducted from your trip - not to mention your ticket in your MDE then completely expires in 14 days. But I do see you have a package so disregard, .

If you give him access to your MDE account to Modify his SDFPs, there's always the chance he can Modify or Cancel one of your pre-booked FPs. The only way to ensure that doesn't happen is to only allow him use of your MBs - he'd have to take a photo of the kiosk screen and he wouldn't be able to Modify or Cancel any of the SDFPs nor book a 4th from the app. He could Modify/Cancel/Book a 4th from a kiosk.

 

[ScrapYap]

Thanks so much! If I use my husband's bands and my other daughter's, do I have to set up a separate MDE account? They're all linked on my account.

My parents have military salute tickets so they have to use their last day by the end of September or sometime in October.

So I can do 30 day advance FP+ with my parents' bands, and SDFP with my husband and daughter's bands?

Btw - I loved the Pride and Prejudice and Star Trek references in your initial explanation post. Two of my favorites....and yeah, Wickham is still a knave....

You don't need to set up a separate MDE. There would be no point. You can't assign bands to more than one profile, so their bands are set as their bands. Just use them at the kiosks and you're good to go.

You can do 30 day advance FP (one day at a time) with your parents' bands. If you have a resort reservation for yourself, you could prebook your own FP 60 days out - and if you include your parents with you or your daughter (guests on the reservations) in the same FP booking group, you window will umbrella out over your parents profiles.

Fun that you enjoyed the P&P and ST references. I was going to remove them because I thought I was the only one who did.

 

[ScrapYap]

The main risk is that he enters the park by using your set of MBs. There goes a day of ticket entitlements and one day's worth of FPs gets deducted from your trip - not to mention your ticket in your MDE then completely expires in 14 days. But I do see you have a package so disregard, .

Cogent point, Hero Hiro. So really, the bands can be shared without risk since the tickets are part of a package (which means they can't be accessed until the day of resort check in).

 

[ScrapYap]

thanks so much for all your answers and I will check out post above about how to use the kiosks.. Just one more thing.. Yes MY bands I wish to give my friend are as you call them "loaded" I have package , tickets and MNSHHP attached to them ( MDE account). FPs not yet as my window is not open.. My window does open though before his trip, so by that time they will be really laoded.. this is why I am banging my head that I missed out making a new MDE for this year... especially since I live on these boards and I some how didnt get this trick.

So the big question is..... what are the risks then with me giving him my loaded bands.... Can the system erase anything.... ?? I trust him enought NOT to by accident erase my FPs..... Or can he quickly by accident? Trying to think of scenarios where it can mess up my reservation/package.. but that I have paid in full etc... and activating park tickets BEFORE a trip cannot happen as he will not use these enter and normally you have to go to guest services too.

One option would be then to buy cheap gray one...

Just to confirm, as Hiro pointed out - you're right, the package means it can't be messed up.

If you really wanted to be nice, you could prebook your friend some FP for the first days of his trip - since you can't book your own until the end of his trip. In fact, depending on the math, you could prebook FP for all the days of his trip - since he'll be using them up and freeing days for you just as you need them to start booking your own.

 

[disneydeal]

So to assign my phantom names I'd go here?

 

[ScrapYap]

So to assign my phantom names I'd go here? View attachment 174827 View attachment 174829

You can add all the phantoms in Friends and Family. You'll be managing their plans, of course.

 

[rdominy]

I have a separate set of magic bands and will be adding tickets to them.

I plan on creating a separate MDE account to alternate with future trips in case this stays an option.

If I do that. Could I take the magic bands we are not using as part of our trip this time and get a CM to give me cards for them?

 

[BookGirl305]

I think I would prefer setting up a second MDE. I tried to go to the Disney store today and buy an extra MB and she said they are only online or in the parks. Is that accurate? I don't want to buy one online and have a helpful person accidentally link it.

 

[rdominy]

It would be difficult for them to be linked if purchased online.

They come in a package and they wouldn't open them in advance. Plus when you order they wouldn't have access to your MDE account.

 

[disneydeal]

I think I would prefer setting up a second MDE. I tried to go to the Disney store today and buy an extra MB and she said they are only online or in the parks. Is that accurate? I don't want to buy one online and have a helpful person accidentally link it.

I also went to the Disney Store in
Overland Park Kansas at Oak Park mall they also said sold online and in parks only. Bummer. Guess I might buy in park on Monday but wanted before I left home.

 

[momto28weeker+1]

We will be getting MB for out trip in August. Our friends have MB that used to be annual pass MB. Could we use their mb as SDPF MB? Or do we need their MDE act info? Or will they not work?

 

[ArielSRL]

Last year when we received an anytime FP for a downed 7DMT, we were able to book a 4th FP before using the Anytime FP for 7D when we returned later in the evening - maybe it worked because Tiering wasn't in effect?

@ArielSRL has daily anytime FPs for her upcoming trip which I believe she received before she pre-booked her FPs - it didn't hamper her ability to pre-book her initial 3. She hasn't begun her trip so perhaps she can test the 4th FP availability?

I was definitely able to book a 4th after only using my original 3, and not having used my anytime FP issued to me from the exec office. I ran into a problem when we were issued a limited anytime FP when a ride went down. It was a weird scenario too. The ride was Pooh. It went down, they issued us a limited anytime FP for most of the Fantasyland rides excluding 7DMT and PP. Pooh came back up before we attempted to use the FP so we rode it. But later when looking at my MDE, I realized it used my non-limited anytime FP instead of the limited one! So then after having used all our FP except the limited one, I didn't get the option to book a 4th in my phone. Later, I talked to a CM at a kiosk. She said it's an issue they know about (using the non limited anytime FP before the limited one) bc the system prioritizes the non limited as first. If anyone is in that situation, she says talk to a CM before using it, if you can. She also said we could book additional FP but I suppose it has to be from a kiosk because that's where she had me do it.

She also gave us paper FP good for two attractions that we wanted, for our trouble.

Oh and not that this is news to anyone but I did use my two yr old's band to book RnRC as a SDFP. I only booked the one because that's all I needed.

ETA: I was issued the daily anytime FPs after I booked my initial ones.

 

[hiroMYhero]

@ArielSRL ~ Thanks for reporting in during your trip!

I think you have set a record for Guest Recovery FPs received before and during 1 trip!!

 

[ArielSRL]

@ArielSRL ~ Thanks for reporting in during your trip!

I think you have set a record for Guest Recovery FPs received before and during 1 trip!!

Actually on the way home...boo hoo! Maybe so on the guest recovery FP! We also got in a couple extra FP entries because of my own mess ups but the CMs let us through!

 

[NeverTooOldForWDW]

I have been doing my research for first WDW visit in 20 years and came across this thread and the main FP thread. TY for all the great info!

We have an on property hotel booked through a third party website. The reservation is linked to our MDE account and we will be receiving MBs. (We could add an infant to obtain an extra MB if it would benefit us.) We purchased RFID tickets through a reputable third party authorized seller. The RFID cards have not yet been linked to MDE.

What is the ideal way to register the MBs and RFIDs for real/phantom to maximize the FPs we can obtain in advance vs. SDFPs? TIA.

We are two adults and two young children, the latter on their first trip to WDW. Very excited!

 

[Born 2B a Princess]

You don't need to set up a separate MDE. There would be no point. You can't assign bands to more than one profile, so their bands are set as their bands. Just use them at the kiosks and you're good to go.

You can do 30 day advance FP (one day at a time) with your parents' bands. If you have a resort reservation for yourself, you could prebook your own FP 60 days out - and if you include your parents with you or your daughter (guests on the reservations) in the same FP booking group, you window will umbrella out over your parents profiles.

Fun that you enjoyed the P&P and ST references. I was going to remove them because I thought I was the only one who did.

Thanks so much. I really did love the references...and felt bad for the Bennet sister who didn't get to go on the trip. ;-)

I can't put anyone else on our resort reservation - we've already got the four of us who are going. Oh well. But I'll get my parents' bands and use those to book 30 day out FPs, and will then use my husband and other daughter's bands a from last year for SDFP. There all decorated uniquely and I've com up with a system for keeping track of which is which. And since we're splitting our days between parks having this additional FP capability will be a huge help!

When I use the bands do SDFP, those have to be done at the kiosk, right? I can't do them in the app? Those bands are already linked on my MDE. After I make those FP at the kiosk, though, I can change them in the app? I'm sorry to ask so many questions!! I really appreciate your help!!!!