Santa Troubles!

My girls are 12 and 13 now. The year they stopped believing was a tough one - but I told myself that when they asked me straight up - I would not lie to them. So, I told them Dad and I were Santa - but that year they "became Santa" too. We began a tradition of selecting names from the "gift" tree in our local mall, and selected presents to give to other children. The girls began to understand that not all children have been as lucky as they have been. They came away with a very good feeling of helping other kids "have Christmas" too.

Give it a try. As parents its hard to let our "babies" go....but here is where we have the opportunity to add to the persons that they will become....

Merry Christmas
Diane

Very well said!!! :thumbsup2 I will remember that as this is probably the year they all cross over.

The younger two ganged up and interrogated me yesterday - right as I was distracted by trying to get some work done. I swear they picked that moment and plotted their strategy. They were surrounding me, asking questions and playing like very good detectives. It must have worked because they totally caught me off guard & I'm not exactly sure how we left things. :lmao:

They are 3rd & 4th grade and apparently comparing rumors from school. I didn't not really respond either way but I know they suspect the truth. DS actually suspected in K and made some comments but never asked outright so I never addressed it then.
 
I'm sorry to hear this. As a 3rd grade teacher, we're quickly approaching the time of year that I both love and hate, for this very reason.
P.S. You could always add the frank discussion about, "Well, you know Santa only brings presents to the good girls and boys. You don't think ___________ is on the Naughty List and gets no presents from Santa, do you?"
We do not do Santa in our home. He is a story and a character associated with the holidays, but my husband and I do not purchase presents that are from Santa.
I have to agree with PA Princess, here. This type of comment would be school board time for me. The implication that DS is not "good" because he doesn't believe in a character is not okay in any form.

My brother and I learned the truth way before our peers did, and I don't think our parents' reason was religious in nature. They felt (probably to help instill some gratitude and humility in us) that it was important for us to know that they worked hard to provide these special things for us. We didn't worry about a last minute effort to "be good" on December 1, because we were expected to be that way all the time. On top of that, our holidays were never filled with that stress that everyone else's was.

I think people expect that the magic of the season diminishes when the Santa myth is dispelled; that has not been the case in our family. We, as a small group of 4, always looked forward to Christmastime and still do. As the family has expanded to in-laws and grandchildren, who all know that Santa is a character, not a representation of Christmas, no one has lost that wonder. For my 3-year-old niece, who lives 5 hours away from us, her "magic" comes from being able to kiss Grandma and Grandpa, and bake cookies with Auntie, not the fear that the white-bearded one may not visit her home.

I understand how a parent would lament the growing up of his child but this is a good opportunity to show the giving, rather than receiving, side of the holiday.
 
When Ds was born, we strugled as to whether or not to present Santa as real. We choose to go ahead and we went all out. Santa always brought the asked for gifts, we left food for the reindeers, it sometimes "snowed" and there was foot prints in the snow. It was fun but we never felt completly comfortable. DS was VERY into reality. He NEVER believed in the easter bunny or tooth fairy or even Disney character. He did however at least seem to buy into Santa. At about 8 we felt we need to have the talk. His friend was getting very little for Christmas and we felt we needed to discuss this. We were pretty sure DS really knew anyway. After the talk, he told us he had "known" forever, but he really did not want us to tell him.:worship:,
Anyway now at 17, he says he will NOT do Santa with his children. We are doing Santa now with DGS (our DN's child that we are pretty much raising), as we do no get to make all those choices, but we are doing a much "lighter" touch on Santa.
The first Christmas than we knew that DS knew turned out to be the best Christmas ever. I was more relaxed and we could focus more on the Christian Christmas that is important to us. Santa of course still comes!
I very much believe still however that if they ask, you tell the truth and at some point it is time to tell anyway, whether that be 6 or 16.
 
Our kids figured it out young - first grade and kindergarten (they are only a year apart). We used it to celebrate their critical thinking skills ('how clever of you for figuring that out!') and then let them in that its a 'grown up secret.' You can't spoil the secret for other children, but now that you know the secret you can be Santa too.

We bring toys to the children's hospital every year.

Then we started giving them choices - "Santa" could come early and they'd have a pile of gifts under the tree as they arrived, or they could wake up Christmas morning to the stuff. They chose (like we did in my house - like their Grandma still does) the first, so now life is easy for me. I put up a tree and wrap the presents as they come in and put them under the tree. No hiding gifts.

Its a new chapter for your kids. But it doesn't have to be a less magical chapter - and it does have its advantages.
 

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Then we started giving them choices - "Santa" could come early and they'd have a pile of gifts under the tree as they arrived, or they could wake up Christmas morning to the stuff. They chose (like we did in my house - like their Grandma still does) the first, so now life is easy for me. I put up a tree and wrap the presents as they come in and put them under the tree. No hiding gifts.

This is one area where DH and I still disagree, and I have to admit that last year we had a HUGE debacle with DS and his Asperger's over this. Let's just say that eliminating the morning surprise doesn't always eliminate the drama.

I grew up with the gifts being THE Christmas decor. We do the traditional holiday season, the 12 days, so we do not put up the tree until the first day of Christmas -- Christmas Eve. The only "Christmassy" thing we had in the house up until that point were the gifts, piled artfully in a corner.

I had always preferred to do this, mostly because I make a big deal out of making the wrapping on each gift a work of art, and it just kills me that no one gets to see the hard work I put in on that. DH felt that putting out the gifts with children in the house was a cruel thing to do; letting them see them but insisting that they could not touch. (Personally I don't mind if they touch to try to guess, as I think that's half the fun of Christmas, but DH *hates* the idea of anyone guessing what a gift is, or peeking.)

Last year, when DS was 11, DH finally caved and said that we could put the gifts out a week or so early, but insisted that I NOT put tags on them yet, so that the kids wouldn't know which were which, to try to ward off guessing and peeking. Too bad he didn't take the time to properly explain that to DS. DS was upstairs studying, and happened to go downstairs to use the bathroom right after I had put the gifts out. I had told DS that I was putting them out for display early, but I didn't think to tell him that under no circumstances was he to open them; I mistakenly assumed that at age 11 he would know that. Ten minutes later, DH came into the room to discover DS methodically ripping the wrapping off of every gift, and he had unerringly managed to go first to the ones that were his. (He said that he had to open all of them because there were no tags on any of them.)

I was down in the basement putting some things away, and I just bolted upstairs when I heard hysterical shrieking. When DH found DS in that pile of paper, he went off on him like a Roman candle, took every package away, and swore that Christmas was cancelled and that they were ALL going back to the stores. He meant it, too -- to DH. peeking is a capital offense. DS was just wailing, partly over losing Christmas, but more because his Dad was screaming at him. The truth is that I was pretty furious with him, too, because the wrapping of those gifts represented a fair amount of money and about 30 hours of work, and he had ripped up gifts that were not even being given to family members.

Once he finally calmed down enough to be understood, DS' explanation was that for his entire life, he had been allowed to open gifts on the day that they appeared, and why would this year be different? The gifts were there, therefore he thought they were fair game. I think that he was being somewhat disingenuous, because he was still in school, so it obviously was not Christmas yet, but he did have something of a point -- we changed horses midstream without taking sufficient time to prepare him and fully explain, and we did bear some responsibility for that.

DH, of course, insisted on carrying out his threat part way. He returned every gift that had been opened and bought something different, and I ended up spending the entire week before Christmas staying up until 2 am every night re-wrapping everything. :sad2:
 
My bottom line on this is that I will not lie directly to DD6 when she asks about it. If she wants to know I will tell her. I think 7-9 it plently old enough. Anything beyond that is asking to be ridiculed.
 
My bottom line on this is that I will not lie directly to DD6 when she asks about it. If she wants to know I will tell her. I think 7-9 it plently old enough. Anything beyond that is asking to be ridiculed.

I totally agree.

Also, in our family, we allow them to believe in the santa thing, but our primary focus for celebrating Christmas and the whole Christmas season is the birth of Jesus Christ.

We get a lot of judgement from some of our Christian friends (especially my best friend) but dh and I are comfortable with how we handle things.

Speaking of being ridiculed...I cannot even believe I am going to admit this here, but it's the truth, so here goes.

When I was little, probably 8 or 9...I no longer believed, nor did most kids in our class. There was one girl who absolutely did. All of us (yup, myself included) ganged up on her and were insisting there was no santa, but she would not budge. Her father absolutely believed in santa and she hung on every word from his mouth. I cannot believe I said this, but I remember doing so..and anyone who knows me cannot believe it because I am an extremely kind and compassionate person today, but I said meanly to her "then you're not going to get ANY presents for Christmas and neither is your father if you actually believe in Santa!!"

Hanging my head in total shame. If I could remember her last name, I'd try to look her up today just to apologize...30 some odd years later!!
 
WOW! :confused:

I knew DH and I were in the minority but I didn't realize how much until reading this thread. When we had DD, we decided that we wouldn't do "Santa". So DD and now, DS have been taught that their gifts Christmas morning come from Mommy and Daddy. Santa is real but Santa brings gifts to little boys and girls who either don't have both a mommy and daddy to buy for them or that they cannot afford to buy their Christmas gifts. We are also stressing that they get gifts at christmas because Jesus got gifts from the Wise men and the most important part of Christmas is being together and giving not getting. We are hoping that this will keep the magic alive throughout their whole childhood. :lovestruc
 
We were confronted with this when dd was in Kindergarten. She asked me I thought Santa was real I told her Santa existed as long as he was in her heart. Last year (she was in 3rd grade) she asked me point blank are you and Daddy Santa. I told her that she was old enough to know that yes Daddy & I were Santa. BUT not all kids know this so she has to keep it a secret. I emphasized this by telling her if I found out she told any child and ruined their Christmas that she would get nothing for Christmas that year. She is yet to tell any child and feels special knowing that she helps give her little brother the magic of Santa.

This all being said we do emphasize that Santa is fun but the reason we have Christmas. We celebrate Christmas for what it is. We have a Birthday party so to speak. We go to church and both of my kids know the true reason for Christmas.
 
My DD is almost 11 and although I know she knows - when we discussed it several years ago - I told her that if she didn't believe, she wouldn't receive....

She keeps the magic alive for my sake and I couldn't appreciate it more!
 


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