Sad Story from One Who Trusted without Checking!

[TiggerTails57]

Good Luck!

 

[Disney Hot Mama]

It should be about 9 PM on your end now.
As someone who has rented points out 4 times (all in the last few months) I cannot believe you have had such difficulity. I have read this entire thread and do hope everything turns out positively for you and your family. I used a contract for all of my transactions, signed by both parties and when they felt comfortable after I gave them the reservation number and letter showing the reservation was in their name they paid me 1/2 upfront and then the remaining 1/2 60 days out. I have done both personal checks and PayPal with no problems. I think issues like this are in the minority for those considering renting points from us DVC'rs. Don't write us all of just yet - 99% of the transactions go smoothly and it is just like life - most things go smoothly and a then there are a few bumps in the road. I bet you have been offered points from someone on this thread and you will still have an enjoyable trip.

Karma comes back to haunt those of us who deserve......

Keep us posted please...
Pixie dust being sent your way....

 

[disneyfan2kids]

Why were you renting 160 pts in the first place? You posted that (this past June) you just bought 150pt contract and they doubled your pts. when you purchased.

I'm just curious why you would turn around and rent 160 pts after acquiring 300 pts

I truly don't mean to sound snippy...I just wonder why you would be renting so soon after purchasing DVC...couldn't you have just borrowed your pts from next year??

 

[DMKEDM]

First: I am fully ready to believe that most (even 99%) of the people on this board are honest and most of them are also considerate...I think I've posted before that I don't hold this bad experience against renting in general. I think I pointed out (or at least I tried to) that I was describing the things I did wrong...in hopes of helping someone else who might be tempted to act as impulsively and rashly as I did...

Next, I'm not entirely sure it's anyone's business why I wanted the 160 points--but I don't mind telling: first, I didn't get "double points" when I bought, not two weeks ago, but in June...I did get 2006 points, which I used for a trip over T-giving 2006 (haven't taken the trip yet, but it's planned and our villa is reserved), and then for another one in January...then I reserved us a villa in May (yes, we love Disney--as just about everyone on this Board does, but no doubt I'm reacting with "new owner enthusiasm" or some such)...in any event, I have only a few points left until 2008. My son and I agreed when I bought the DVC membership that we would use it principally to continue the tradition we started 4 years ago of going to WDW for Thanksgiving...I don't have enough points left (w/out borrowing) for our 2007 T-giving trip...and we love the Beach Club ... we have two SSR trips and a BWV trip planned...when I saw BCV points, I thought I'd plan a "bang-up" BCV trip for my S & I (and possibly a friend or two) over T-giving...it was enough points to give us a whole week, in at least a one-bedroom (and possibly a two-bedroom)...

As noted, it was an impulsive (not to mention rash) decision. I still wish I could have gotten the points. I'd make the decision to rent the points again...it wasn't a change of heart about wanting the points (or, more accurately, the trip the points would have made possible); it was complete loss of trust/comfort in dealing with the person who is renting the points...

It's 9:20 p.m. here and there is no money for me at Western Union. I did get kind of a funky text message (I really don't know how to use text messaging, so it may be funky only because I don't know how to use it)...it is from a phone number w/the same area code & exchange, but it's a different phone number. It says only "I have to rerent points that you no longer" and then lists a phone number that is different from the one I was given last week.

I am guessing this means the renter/poster has decided not to return my money until/unless she gets money from someone else. BUt I really don't know. I've PM'ed her to tell her I don't understand why she can't return the money she said she would return...but haven't heard back.

I don't know how this will play out. There are options to pursue. But I'm not sure it does anyone any good for me to post about the steps I'm thinking about taking. And I'm still hoping she'll return the money (which I sent her Friday) either later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

With the sounds of that text message, it only sounds as though this person is just coming up with excuses to not return the money i'm sorry you are having such a bad exp.

 

[JimMIA]

There are options to pursue. But I'm not sure it does anyone any good for me to post about the steps I'm thinking about taking.

Most definitely NOT.

 

[robinb]

It sounds like she doesn't want to hold up her end of the bargain she made with Doc. That's not a smart move if she wants to continue to rent here on the DIS.

 

[drakethib]

Sounds like she went out and blew your money.

Man I hope this works out for you.

 

[LisaS]

On another thread she mentions she has financial problems. It's possible she no longer has the money she received from the OP so she has to re-rent the points to get the money to refund to the OP.

 

[BlakeNJ]

Let's all stay positive for DMKEDM!

I have been following this thread for a few days now and it seems that this person is just a FLAKE!!!!! It appears that they have rented their points in the past with some/not some success. Let's hope this "person" is just a complete ding-bat and will "get around" to returning the money. If they are sending text messages, at least they are still in contact--on the flip side, they could just never be heard from again but in this case, there seems to be some--even if little--contact being made. People's priorities are different and some have little respect for others--seems like this is the case here. Hopefully this will turn out for the best.

Although I am not a DVC owner (we are hoping to buy in November) this situation has not soured the idea of renting points for me--only made me wiser.

Again, I am sorry this has happend to you DMKEDM and I hope for the best.

Blakely

 

[robinb]

On another thread she mentions she has financial problems. It's possible she no longer has the money she received from the OP so she has to re-rent the points to get the money to refund to the OP.

That's what I think too. I just wonder why the PP can't be honest about it. I think that DMKEDM, more than many of us, would be understanding while the PP re-rented the points.

 

[JimMIA]

That's what I think too. I just wonder why the PP can't be honest about it. I think that DMKEDM, more than many of us, would be understanding while the PP re-rented the points.

From her postings on the other thread, I don't think ***** even knows this thread exists!

Hopefully these two situations will get cleared up soon.

 

[Anjelica]

but she loses her wallet, her mother dies and now she is having financial problems all within a few days. Sorry - but either she is the most unluckiest person I have ever come upon or something just doesn't seem right....

Gosh I hope it works out for you soon...this just sucks so bad and I feel awful.

 

[JandD Mom]

but she loses her wallet, her mother dies and now she is having financial problems all within a few days. Sorry - but either she is the most unluckiest person I have ever come upon or something just doesn't seem right....

Gosh I hope it works out for you soon...this just sucks so bad and I feel awful.

I feel awful too. But something's not right. With so many problems on her plate, why even bother trying to rent out points? I've done a little renting, and I am so worried my renters might not be able to reach me that I give them my cel number and tell them when I will be out of town! And when I can't be reached, I don't make a promise to reserve a room for someone.

So why would someone, with such awful luck, and no money, and no place to live, and apparently no bank account, but having points in her Aunt's name that she apparently paid for (I can't figure that one out??? ) undertake a rental she didn't have the ability to take care of?

I hope the OP gets her money back, but something is foul here...

 

[3DisneyKids]

Just subbing...

Count me among the many who are wishing you well and a positive resolution to this!

And if that fails...heck, there are about 400 of us subscribed to this thread...we can all send you $2 to re-coup your cost!

I HATE hearing stories like this, but I think posting your experience has helped others...I will continue to wait for an update.

 

[noname70]

Said a prayer for you tonight

 

[Olaf]

I don't know how this will play out. There are options to pursue. But I'm not sure it does anyone any good for me to post about the steps I'm thinking about taking. And I'm still hoping she'll return the money (which I sent her Friday) either later tonight or tomorrow.

I hope you get your money back, too. Nobody deserves to be treated like you've been treated. You've been way more accomodating than I would have ever been. I'm not buying the "My momma died" story, nor would I be interested in her financial problems. You need to let her know you aren't messing around and that you're serious about getting your money back. The time for being nice and understanding has passed. Good luck.

 

[Deesknee]

Thank you so much for sharing in such a considerate manner. I haven't rented or traded at all yet, but have been considering it lately. Thanks so so much.

 

[manning]

WU has a policy. SHOW ID. I don't care how persuasive the OP was to the WU person, s/he (WU) did something wrong, violated POLICY.

PROCEED WITH A CLAIM WITH WESTERN UNION!!!

You may lose or win, but you will difinitely lose if you do not try.

If they deny your claim, which is their right, chalk it up to bad experience and move on. If you get your money back consider yourself lucky.

Good luck.

 

[DMKEDM]

It's 6 a.m. Tuesday; just called Western Union...there's no money there.

Some responses: first, thanks for the continuing sympathy. It does help make me feel better. Second, to the poster who offered $2 from each DIS'er subscribed to "the thread"--thank you for the thought! I appreciate it...as is most likely true for all of us, money spent to do a vacation is not money needed for the mortgage or food or to pay bills...it's a loss that hurts and I won't be able to plan another trip until I recover from the loss--but as noted in an earlier post, it's not our "once in a lifetime" trip or anything like that. It could be worse. (And is for one other poster whose Halloween trip is at risk)...finally, truly, Western Union has done absolutely nothing wrong...they didn't just give the money to the renter/poster who didn't have an ID--they required a "test question" from me, and other identifying information...I had to authorize giving out the money w/out an ID...it's my doing, not Western Union's, that she got the money I sent w/out an ID...

Thanks again for the moral support, the ideas & suggestions, and the interest you-all are showing. I will follow up (but think I shouldn't say what I'm planning to do), and will let you know how this all plays out. And to anyone reading this who is thinking about renting (either to give or to get points): I truly honestly believe this could have been avoided had I taken reasonable precautions and acted with reasonable care. I didn't. I don't think the rental process, via the R/T Board, is "the problem." Truly, you do need to take some care and proceed with some caution. But as many, many posters have pointed out--vast numbers of rental agreements go through, to the benefit of both parties to the transaction, with little or no hassle or difficulty. Renting can be a really good thing for both sides of the transaction, and most of the time it is. So while there are lessons to be learned from this icky experience, it won't stop me from trying again (more wisely!) in the future...altho I probably (hopefully certainly) won't act as impulsively or rashly as I did this time!