S/O..have you ever had a thread go south on you?

[Micca]

Many years ago on an Australia forum I got two official warnings for my comments on two different books. One was a cook book.

Arguments on cooking forums often get heated.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Not on a thread that I started, but on someone else's that I was trying to help. The poster had never been to either of the Disney water parks and was asking if you could bring your picnic lunch/cooler into the Disney water parks. I have been to both Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach easily over 100 times each. I told the poster, that yes, you can bring in all of the food/drinks that you want, just no glass. I further explained that when you arrive at the park, you pick an area and secure a couple chairs to throw your shoe's, towels, cooler, shorts, t-shirts etc.

I was totally attacked by many posters who apparently had never been to a Disney water park!!!! Ugh!! I was called names and told I was a "chair hog"!!!! These folks seemed to think that you put all of your stuff in lockers and you would go back and forth to lockers all day long!!! I did learn that at the Wisconsin Dells water parks (I am from NH and have never visited a water park in Wisconsin!!!) you store everything in a locker or a large group picnic area with picnic tables far away from the water or chairs!!!! Ha, ha!!

The Disney water parks are set up for a family to claim a couple chairs to put their clothes/coolers/etc. near or on. They do not have lockers for every guest that enters the park and they do not have vacant space to store things, but they do have LOTS and LOTS of chairs. Like I said, I had/have been to Disney water parks hundreds of times and when guests arrive at opening, everyone goes and grabs some chairs to ditch their stuff on and return to later in the day. Its just the way it is.

Its true that if you are there in a really busy day and arrive at noon time, it will be hard to find a chair, BUT, you also may not be able to get a locker or even find a speck of pavement or sand to toss your stuff either!

But some of the folks on the boards that day, would have none of that. Like I said, it was obvious they had never been to the Disney water parks and their experience was more with chairs on cruises or resort pools (or the Wisconsin Dells!!!) which you obviously don't store your stuff on for the day.

It was an eye opening experience for me about some posters!!

Saving chairs at water parks/areas in general is kind of a grey area when the park has no hard rule on it. FWIW multiple Disney help sites recommend getting to their water parks before they open so you have the best chance at saving seats so it would appear to be well-known advice but I couldn't find a rule for or against chair saving on Disney's website (and I didn't think I would) so then the naysayers are going more on ethicial viewpoints. Aulani has different hard rules on chair saving so discussion would be different there as naysayers have rules to fall back on.

Oceans of Fun doesn't seem to have a policy for or against chair saving either though you can only bring in bottled water. Picnic tables are in the parking lot area and just outside of the entrance if you want to enjoy food brought from home. Lockers are also available inside the park but you still can't bring anything in other than bottled water. IDK if chair saving there is met with positive or negative reactions as I haven't been in over 5 years.

Obviously you know your stuff about Disney water parks though.

 

[Squirlz]

Arguments on cooking forums often get heated.

And they often boil over!

 

[tvguy]

I'm sorry to hear that it's so different in the US.

In Canada, people who use Guide dogs and their dogs have clear legal protections. They cannot be refused service or accommodation, and the dog is afforded a legal status similar to that of its human owner, and anyone who violates the law by denying a guide dog access can be fined.

There are thirteen training facilities accepted under the "Blind Person's Rights Act", and the Attorney General issues identification cards to people with qualifying dogs (meaning they were trained in one of those 13 facilities).

About 10 years ago, there was an effort to draft legislation covering people with other disabilities, beyond the blind, but it basically died in committee. Hopefully, we can get back to that, since it seems to be needed. At the moment, people with other service animals rely on the protection of their provincial Human Rights Code.

In Ontario, this means that denying a person with a service animal access to a facility IS discrimination on the basis of disability, so long as the person can prove that they have a disability and demonstrate that the animal is necessary for reasons related to that disability. In practice, this usually means the disabled person must get a medical professional to prescribe the animal, and then carries medical documentation with them. You can see how this becomes awkward in cases of psychiatric disability, where social stigma is still an issue, and people often want to preserve their medical privacy.

I feel like we're half way there. But, it's better than having no standards at all.

The bolded is true in the U.S. as well. Service and guide animals have clear legal protections. Business owners do not. Legally, you can only ask if an animal is a service animal, you can not ask for proof that the animal has any training. There is where the problem is, because people do take advantage of that. Any service animal that is out of control can be asked to leave, other than that, they have to be let in, and any effort to exclude them is a crime.

 

[fortwildernessishome]

Saving chairs at water parks/areas in general is kind of a grey area when the park has no hard rule on it. FWIW multiple Disney help sites recommend getting to their water parks before they open so you have the best chance at saving seats so it would appear to be well-known advice but I couldn't find a rule for or against chair saving on Disney's website (and I didn't think I would) so then the naysayers are going more on ethicial viewpoints. Aulani has different hard rules on chair saving so discussion would be different there as naysayers have rules to fall back on.

Oceans of Fun doesn't seem to have a policy for or against chair saving either though you can only bring in bottled water. Picnic tables are in the parking lot area and just outside of the entrance if you want to enjoy food brought from home. Lockers are also available inside the park but you still can't bring anything in other than bottled water. IDK if chair saving there is met with positive or negative reactions as I haven't been in over 5 years.

Obviously you know your stuff about Disney water parks though.

Yes, I totally agree that places like Aulani, cruise ships, resort pools and many non-Disney water parks either don't allow or discourage people from tossing a towel on a chair to save it for the day.

However, I doubt any CM could be found at either Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach that would advise a guest against storing clothes/cooler/towel etc. on a chair. it would be the opposite, because there is no other place to store your stuff. There is no large "community" area where you could store your stuff and they don't force guests to rent lockers. So a CM is going to tell a guest to find a chair to ditch their stuff on.

The funny thing was, the poster was only asking about the two Disney water parks. He was not asking about chair etiquette in general, he only wanted to know about the Disney water parks.

After I was called a "chair hog" another poster accused me of being the type of person that goes into counter service restaurants and takes up a table while someone else in my group is standing in line ordering!! Some posters really got ugly!

However, it was all good and has given not only me, but my kids and husband many laughs over the years! This post was probably 4 years ago now and every time we go to either Typhoon or Blizzard we joke about leaving all of our stuff in a walkway or by the bathrooms or some other random place so as not to use a chair!! Obviously, if we did that, it would be picked up and removed by a CM, because they want you to use a chair for your stuff, but we still crack ourselves up about it!!

 

[Magpie]

The bolded is true in the U.S. as well. Service and guide animals have clear legal protections. Business owners do not. Legally, you can only ask if an animal is a service animal, you can not ask for proof that the animal has any training. There is where the problem is, because people do take advantage of that. Any service animal that is out of control can be asked to leave, other than that, they have to be let in, and any effort to exclude them is a crime.

I'm guessing that may be because your right to privacy (especially with regards to your medical documentation) is paramount in the US.

It may be that if you want to protect that right to personal privacy, then you have to accept a certain amount of "cheating" along with it.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Yes, I totally agree that places like Aulani, cruise ships, resort pools and many non-Disney water parks either don't allow or discourage people from tossing a towel on a chair to save it for the day.

However, I doubt any CM could be found at either Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach that would advise a guest against storing clothes/cooler/towel etc. on a chair. it would be the opposite, because there is no other place to store your stuff. There is no large "community" area where you could store your stuff and they don't force guests to rent lockers. So a CM is going to tell a guest to find a chair to ditch their stuff on.

The funny thing was, the poster was only asking about the two Disney water parks. He was not asking about chair etiquette in general, he only wanted to know about the Disney water parks.

After I was called a "chair hog" another poster accused me of being the type of person that goes into counter service restaurants and takes up a table while someone else in my group is standing in line ordering!! Some posters really got ugly!

However, it was all good and has given not only me, but my kids and husband many laughs over the years! This post was probably 4 years ago now and every time we go to either Typhoon or Blizzard we joke about leaving all of our stuff in a walkway or by the bathrooms or some other random place so as not to use a chair!! Obviously, if we did that, it would be picked up and removed by a CM, because they want you to use a chair for your stuff, but we still crack ourselves up about it!!

At least the light at the end of the tunnel was you're able to laugh about it later on

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Not on a thread that I started, but on someone else's that I was trying to help. The poster had never been to either of the Disney water parks and was asking if you could bring your picnic lunch/cooler into the Disney water parks. I have been to both Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach easily over 100 times each. I told the poster, that yes, you can bring in all of the food/drinks that you want, just no glass. I further explained that when you arrive at the park, you pick an area and secure a couple chairs to throw your shoe's, towels, cooler, shorts, t-shirts etc.

I was totally attacked by many posters who apparently had never been to a Disney water park!!!! Ugh!! I was called names and told I was a "chair hog"!!!! These folks seemed to think that you put all of your stuff in lockers and you would go back and forth to lockers all day long!!! I did learn that at the Wisconsin Dells water parks (I am from NH and have never visited a water park in Wisconsin!!!) you store everything in a locker or a large group picnic area with picnic tables far away from the water or chairs!!!! Ha, ha!!

The Disney water parks are set up for a family to claim a couple chairs to put their clothes/coolers/etc. near or on. They do not have lockers for every guest that enters the park and they do not have vacant space to store things, but they do have LOTS and LOTS of chairs. Like I said, I had/have been to Disney water parks hundreds of times and when guests arrive at opening, everyone goes and grabs some chairs to ditch their stuff on and return to later in the day. Its just the way it is.

Its true that if you are there in a really busy day and arrive at noon time, it will be hard to find a chair, BUT, you also may not be able to get a locker or even find a speck of pavement or sand to toss your stuff either!

But some of the folks on the boards that day, would have none of that. Like I said, it was obvious they had never been to the Disney water parks and their experience was more with chairs on cruises or resort pools (or the Wisconsin Dells!!!) which you obviously don't store your stuff on for the day.

It was an eye opening experience for me about some posters!!

We used the lockers at TL & BB for all our stuff

 

[fortwildernessishome]

At least the light at the end of the tunnel was you're able to laugh about it later on

Yes, for sure!!! Ha, ha!

 

[fortwildernessishome]

We used the lockers at TL & BB for all our stuff

Yes, many folks like to do it that way. In the old days, if we were going into a park with our 10 day non expiring park hoppers and that had 10 fun days (aka, water park days for us!!) and I was worried that they might get stolen, I would grab a locker too. But no guest has to do that and the way the parks are set up are for folks to grab a chair to stash their stuff.

 

[Alicefan]

Shoot, I got points just last week!

LOL Hell, I've been banned before.

 

[wenrob]

Yes, I totally agree that places like Aulani, cruise ships, resort pools and many non-Disney water parks either don't allow or discourage people from tossing a towel on a chair to save it for the day.

However, I doubt any CM could be found at either Typhoon Lagoon or Blizzard Beach that would advise a guest against storing clothes/cooler/towel etc. on a chair. it would be the opposite, because there is no other place to store your stuff. There is no large "community" area where you could store your stuff and they don't force guests to rent lockers. So a CM is going to tell a guest to find a chair to ditch their stuff on.

The funny thing was, the poster was only asking about the two Disney water parks. He was not asking about chair etiquette in general, he only wanted to know about the Disney water parks.

After I was called a "chair hog" another poster accused me of being the type of person that goes into counter service restaurants and takes up a table while someone else in my group is standing in line ordering!! Some posters really got ugly!

However, it was all good and has given not only me, but my kids and husband many laughs over the years! This post was probably 4 years ago now and every time we go to either Typhoon or Blizzard we joke about leaving all of our stuff in a walkway or by the bathrooms or some other random place so as not to use a chair!! Obviously, if we did that, it would be picked up and removed by a CM, because they want you to use a chair for your stuff, but we still crack ourselves up about it!!

Yeah, DISrs are pretty adept at making their own rules. I get people asking me about trips to WDW but I'm a Disneyland girl so I'll refer them to the stickies on the WDW planning forums and let them know if they get involved in the threads they're on their own. I had a look many moons ago and just backed out slowly. I don't get that particular "rule." (the bold) In fast food/counter service places all across the county that's what you do. Not sure why it's something that shouldn't be done in WDW. Why would you want entire families waiting in line ahead of you clogging up the place?

 

[Alicefan]

It's funny to me that I call recall most of the threads being mentioned.

I'm a little disappointed that no one has taken this thread and run with it

What do you mean you're "disappointed"? You're just trying to start trouble and I'm sensitive to that! I also don't like the fact that you're insinuating that I'm a Wiccan with that smiley stirring a cauldron!

 

[ronandannette]

Arguments on cooking forums often get heated.

Yeah. I'm not sure the DIS could actually survive a full-on brown egg/white egg war. Let's just be grateful this is a kinder, gentler place.

 

[Alicefan]

I get accused constantly of being mean. Whether it's online or in person. I guess that means I actually am. Honestly in MY mind, I'm just very opinionated and people DO NOT like that. I have learned (and I still don't care) that 100% of people that ask you for your opinion really only want you to pat them on the back or say something positive. There are exactly zero people that really want to know what you think if it's not good. I could understand being called mean if I said things in a mean way, but I NEVER do that. I'm too sensitive to people's feelings to do that. I tend to joke around and laugh a lot and get my point across that way instead. I had a friend rip me a new one because she asked if I liked her lipstick and I said, "Yeah, it's okay but I like the pink shade that you wear better on you." Yup, lost her mind. Sometimes you can't win for losing. As for me, when I ask for an opinion, I'm going to be pissed if you lie to me because you don't want to hurt my feelings. I wouldn't ask if I really didn't want to know, so my motto is, "Don't ask me unless you want to hear the truth." But as for the boards, I constantly get in trouble for doubting that 99.9% of people's children are all on the spectrum and should get special attention at WDW. It's my Achilles heel.

 

[Alicefan]

Please make fun of me for this question: How do I know if I have gotten points?

They come to your house and wad up the front of your shirt. lol

 

[Alicefan]

[QUOTE="
So here's what the person did:
I don't know their gender but the poster and I were disagreeing with each other..it's whatev on that really. We basically ended the disagreement in the "move on type" way.

I was already in another discussion with another poster on a completely different unrelated random thread. So the poster who was having the disagreement with me I'm assuming went to my profile page to see what threads I had posted on and found one that's the only way I can figure out that they found one of my other current posts so fast. Seriously within minutes of ending the disagreement that poster shows up on that other thread and 'likes' the poster's post who I was discussing with. That poster and I weren't arguing we just didn't have the same opinion and we were being friendly about it.

So after that person 'likes' the poster's post they never comment nor 'like' another comment on that thread even comments the person who they 'liked'. It's not hard to figure out that they wanted to show agreement (for whatever reason) with someone I was currently in a friendly disagreement with. Like I said I viewed that as petty.[/QUOTE]
Not only petty, but talk about having far too much time on your hands. sheesh!

 

[Alicefan]

There's nothing like a bunch of anal geeks (myself included) arguing over which buttons on the TARDIS do what.\

bahahahaha! Nerds! lol

 

[Alicefan]

Not on a thread that I started, but on someone else's that I was trying to help. The poster had never been to either of the Disney water parks and was asking if you could bring your picnic lunch/cooler into the Disney water parks. I have been to both Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach easily over 100 times each. I told the poster, that yes, you can bring in all of the food/drinks that you want, just no glass. I further explained that when you arrive at the park, you pick an area and secure a couple chairs to throw your shoe's, towels, cooler, shorts, t-shirts etc.

Yep I've never been to any of the waterparks either, but even I know that's exactly how it's done. I live in Myrtle Beach with lots of water parks. First come first served and you just keep coming back to your little spot with your stuff on it. I'm actually surprised that there are people that don't know the drill. Weird. I'd have backed ya up. lol

 

[Magpie]

What do you mean you're "disappointed"? You're just trying to start trouble and I'm sensitive to that! I also don't like the fact that you're insinuating that I'm a Wiccan with that smiley stirring a cauldron!

Are you insinuating there's something bad about being Wiccan? My kids' godparents are Wiccans!

BTW, so glad you posted about the "saving tables" thing! When I read that, I thought, "Wait, what?" Unless instructed otherwise (some restaurants have unique seating rules), that's always what we do - most of the party goes off to find a table, while one or two people grab lunch for everyone else! My thought is, do you really want us all standing in front you?