DIS Dads Rust Belt Road Trip (2 UPDATES--1/18)

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This reminds me of Charlotte. I didn’t expect that kind of treatment in a real city. Hopefully they did something to make it right.

HEY :rolleyes1 :rotfl2: Oh Wait, you are right. :lmao:



Great Updates Barry. Have never up in that part of the country so thanks for showing it to me.

Glad you could have some successful Dismeets.
 
HEY :rolleyes1 :rotfl2: Oh Wait, you are right. :lmao:

I’d like to say kinder things about the Queen City (being as I live in the area too :sad2:)…

but facts is facts. :lmao:

Howdy neighbor! I’ve been reading you comments all along on several TRs, and only just now noticed your location. I’m usually better then that. Our humble abode is just south of that invisible and impenetrable barrier that most folks in Mecklenburg refer to as “off the map” (you know… that despicable little town where the “Charlotte Knights” currently play ball :rolleyes1 ).
 
Barry, the kids and I were headed back downtown on the train. The heat wave was still going strong, and we'd just spent most of the morning wandering around a non-air-conditioned baseball stadium in our sweaty t-shirts and ball caps. Naturally, this was the perfect time to eat lunch in a swanky upscale downtown restaurant.

:lmao::lmao::lmao: It wasn't actually "swank."

We were on our way to meet Chicago native Kathy, known as KatMark here on the boards, at the Grand Lux Cafe on Michigan Avenue. We'd never eaten at this place before, and Kathy had suggested it simply as a convenient spot to meet downtown that wouldn't be too far from the women at the American Girl store.

Mark, in case I didn't tell you, I had never eaten there either. ;) Mark had eaten at the one in Vegas and said it was good.

We were a few minutes late, but we found Kathy hanging out at the front of the restaurant and exchanged greetings. She made a point of noticing Barry's' Cubs t-shirt and praising him for that. Then she made a point of noticing my obnoxious orange Flyers t-shirt and absolutely fell in love with it, wondering if I could find something similar for both her and her husband. Don't worry, Kathy: I'll see what I can do. :thumbsup2

I think I remember it a tad differently. I ADMIRED Barry's shirt, and poked you in the chest and said in my best Blackhawk fan voice, "what the heck are you doing wearing that shirt?" :rotfl2::rotfl2:

Kathy was a ton of fun. Full of great stories and energy, and she was a sweetheart to boot--she had brought gifts for all of our kids. Toys and t-shirts! She had made a special trip to the Disney Store ahead of time to load up on goodies. This included specialized Mickey/Minnie Chicago t-shirts that are only sold in the downtown location. You'll see them later in this TR.

Hey, I have no grandchildren, so I might as well spoil other people's kids. :)

The restaurant was swanky as promised, but somehow we managed to get ourselves and the boys past the bouncers and seated in a booth. I kept expecting a manager to come over and point us out to say, "We don't serve their kind here," but we slipped through the meal under the radar. I forget what everyone had, but Scotty got a hot dog from the kids meal that was placed on two rolls such that it looked like train cars hooked together.

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That hot dog was the neatest thing! I believe the rest of the kids had the maccaroni and cheese.

And I had a chicken meatball sandwich, which I'd never heard of before, but it proved to be very tasty. We had a great meal and great conversation. I think I can speak for Barry when I say: thanks for taking the time for meeting us, Kathy, you were a true pleasure!

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Mark, it was MY pleasure meeting you and your adorable boys -- Dave and Scotty and Barry and his son Evan. I had a great time at lunch and hope we can have another DIS meet in the not too distant future.

(Raise your hand if you look at that picture and start humming, "Two of these guys do no belong here...")

After several missed phone calls and messages from the women, we wandered down to the Chicago Disney Store, since that was where the last message had come from. We didn't find the women there, but somehow managed to spend 10 minutes browsing. Er, looking for the girls, of course.

We finally met up with them on Michigan Avenue and then had a decision to make. Julie had wanted to wander Millenium Park, further south in the city towards the lakefront, so she could see some of the art and play with her fancy-pants camera. Or, we could just go back to the hotel and relax by swimming in the pool. We let the kids decide. Want to guess what they chose?

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Yeah, that was kind of a no-brainer, huh? And I'm very sorry: I should have warned you about that blinding, pasty white skin.

With that heat wave we were having, you didn't get any sun prior to that picture?

Madison had a little waterproof camera and was having fun playing with that.

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COOL!

As early evening approached, we got changed and ready for dinner. Dinner was going to be an historic event: a meeting with my Official DisDads Nemesis©, Brian (middlepat).

How does one obtain a nemesis in the Dis Dads Club, you ask? (Okay, you probably didn't ask, but I'm going to tell you anyway.) It's' very simple. You talk to the other guy and say, "Hey, some of the Dads have declared each other nemesis..ises. So do you want to be Mortal Enemies?"

That's pretty much it. Then we go on joking around and poking fun like normal.

I think there was a bit of history leading Brian and me down the path of Nemesis-dom: I beat him in fantasy football, his favorite sports teams beat mine (including the Hawks over the Flyers for the Stanley Cup), I poked fun at Canada, he poked fun at the DOT...that's about it. Now that we are sworn Mortal Enemies, our duties involve poking even more fun at each other, and taking each other out for dinner when we're in town. It's sort of like the relationship between Doofenshmirtz and Perry the Platypus.

And you talk about us women having our weird ways? PLEASE!

Brian and his family (wife Erika, daughters Mary, Shannon, and Megan) met us at the hotel (with another phone call from the lobby up to our room wondering what was taking us so long :headache:). Greetings were exchanged all around (I left my joy-buzzer at home), and then we set out for dinner at Lou Malnati's for some authentic Chicago deep-dish pizza. Brian swore it was the best pie in town. Sign me up!

Hidden Mickey!

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We wandered down to the restaurant, all 14 of us, and put our names in for a table. It would be 45 minutes' wait, according to the hostess. No problem, we said--we have a large group, that's understandable. We decided to take a look at the menu and place our order ahead of time--deep-dish pizzas take some time to make and cook, so we figured this would save time in the end--with 8 young kids, this is crucial. Then we hung around outside the restaurant and waited.

And waited.

The kids sat in a circle and amused themselves by playing with Madison and Sarah's American Girls. I was amazed at how well they got along. All of these kids, basically strangers, were playing with each other as though they'd known each other forever. I attribute this to terrific parenting. Or cool kids. Or blind luck.

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I think it just comes from having GREAT kids...if only the adults in general could be more like kids!:sick:

We waited some more.

We decided to head down to the river to check out the view.

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We waited.

We took some pictures. Here are the Dis Dads: Barry, me, and Brian.

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A family shot:

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The kids might be getting a little tired of waiting.

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Julie decided to get a little artsy-fartsy:

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After 45 minutes had passed, we went back to the restaurant and asked the server if our table was ready. We started getting some shifty eyes as they answered...I'm sorry, what was your name again? It should just be a few more minutes.

We waited.

We asked again: this time, our table was being cleared off. It would be a few more minutes.

We waited. The first cries of "I'm hungry!" began to find a voice. Brian's oldest daughter, Mary, decided to start giving me chest-bumps as we stood on the sidewalk. I thought that was pretty cool.

We waited.

We asked again: I'm sorry, what was your group's name again?

Finally, we decided to call in the nuclear option: All 14 of us, including the 8 young kids getting whinier by the second, would wait inside the cramped restaurant. Then they couldn't possibly ignore us!

We waited. They ignored us.

We found a bench for the kids to sit on. We pestered various hostesses and managers, but to no avail. After being told earlier that our table was being cleared, we were now told that another large group was still in there and didn't seem like they were in a hurry to leave.

We waited.

The other large group still wouldn't budge. At this point, I believe Bambi was offering to go sit on their table until they left.

We waited.

Finally...a full 2 HOURS after we'd first put our names in, we were ushered to our seats. The restaurant was very broken-up about our ordeal, and offered us a free dessert. Woohoo. None of us got too excited.

We took the free dessert, of course. We just weren't excited.

I don't like to be the guy who complains in restaurants. Everybody has bad nights, and most of the staff is full of overworked, underpaid people. I'm not sure what the problem was here--whether somebody missed us in the queue or what--but that was the longest wait I've ever had in a restaurant. That kind of miscommunication to your guests shouldn't happen. If there was a positive, it was that the kids were really, really well-behaved for such a long wait without food.

The food? It was ok. Brian said later he thought the restaurant had an off-night, and that he and Erika didn't think it was up to par compared to their other meals there. I think after the wait, anything would have been disappointing.

I'm sorry...but if after an hour I still hadn't been shown my table, I would have walked out. And, I can't comment on Lou Malnati's downtown, but our son ordered from the one near our home. My husband and my opinion: :sick::sick: We did NOT like it at all.

In any case, the upside was that we had a lot of time to hang out with Barry, Bambi, Erika and Brian. They were wonderful company. Lots of great stories and easy laughs. I'm a little confused, though. Brian and his family were warm, fun, caring people. They've been through a lot, especially with little Megan, and have pulled through admirably. So if I'm his nemesis, does that mean I'm the evil one? I need to wrap my brain around that one. Maybe we just stink at the whole nemesis thing.

After dinner, the restaurant was closing for last call at about 2:00 a.m. or so, and we walked back to the hotel and said our goodbyes. Barry's family was leaving that night as well, so we watched Barry execute a perfect 127-point turn to get his souped-up turbo-charged van out of the parking lot. The kids waved goodbye to Madison and Evan, and as they drove off, they immediately started asking if they could write letters to them and see them again. We thought that was a good idea. As they say: you can never have too many friends from Wisconsin.

Ok, nobody says that. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

A special thank-you section here: Brian & Erika, for coming into the city on your work-at-home day to spend (lots of) time with us, Kathy, for carving out a slightly-longer-than-normal lunch hour in order to meet us, and Barry & Bambi, for providing great, fun company for nearly 2 days in Chicago. You're all very special people, and we're honored to have met you.

Coming Up Next: Giant windmills, dinosaurs, race cars, and....Barbie?

It sounds like an awesome DIS meet with Brian and his family...despite the long wait to eat.
 
I’d like to say kinder things about the Queen City (being as I live in the area too :sad2:

but facts is facts. :lmao:

Howdy neighbor! I’ve been reading you comments all along on several TRs, and only just now noticed your location. I’m usually better then that. Our humble abode is just south of that invisible and impenetrable barrier that most folks in Mecklenburg refer to as “off the map” (you know… that despicable little town where the “Charlotte Knights” currently play ball :rolleyes1 ).

I know where you are. I am actually in the county but in Matthews, and work on the south side.

My kids already know if we want to go out to dinner Friday night we need to hustle or we will wait for 2 hours. :lmao: I would never let them forget about us even though I am sure they have tried. :laughing:
 

We were a few minutes late, but we found Kathy hanging out at the front of the restaurant and exchanged greetings. She made a point of noticing Barry's' Cubs t-shirt and praising him for that. Then she made a point of noticing my obnoxious orange Flyers t-shirt and absolutely fell in love with it, wondering if I could find something similar for both her and her husband. Don't worry, Kathy: I'll see what I can do.

I'm calling Beverly on this. No self-respecting Hawks fan would want that day-glo orange travesty.

The restaurant was swanky as promised, but somehow we managed to get ourselves and the boys past the bouncers and seated in a booth. I kept expecting a manager to come over and point us out to say, "We don't serve their kind here," but we slipped through the meal under the radar.

Must have been blinded by the shirt.

I forget what everyone had, but Scotty got a hot dog from the kids meal that was placed on two rolls such that it looked like train cars hooked together.

Cool.

And I had a chicken meatball sandwich, which I'd never heard of before, but it proved to be very tasty. We had a great meal and great conversation. I think I can speak for Barry when I say: thanks for taking the time for meeting us, Kathy, you were a true pleasure!

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(Raise your hand if you look at that picture and start humming, "Two of these guys do no belong here...")

2??? I only see one without Cubs gear..... :confused3 (Kathy get's a pass as she's the local)

We finally met up with them on Michigan Avenue and then had a decision to make. Julie had wanted to wander Millenium Park, further south in the city towards the lakefront, so she could see some of the art and play with her fancy-pants camera. Or, we could just go back to the hotel and relax by swimming in the pool. We let the kids decide. Want to guess what they chose?

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Yeah, that was kind of a no-brainer, huh? And I'm very sorry: I should have warned you about that blinding, pasty white skin.

Oh wait, now I know what blinded the folks at Grand Lux. :rotfl2:

The pool was on the rooftop of the Best Western, and a sun deck outside gave some nice views of the city. All in all, it was a nice, refreshing afternoon.

Nice pic! :thumbsup2

As early evening approached, we got changed and ready for dinner. Dinner was going to be an historic event: a meeting with my Official DisDads Nemesis©, Brian (middlepat).

:wave2:

How does one obtain a nemesis in the Dis Dads Club, you ask? (Okay, you probably didn't ask, but I'm going to tell you anyway.) It's' very simple. You talk to the other guy and say, "Hey, some of the Dads have declared each other nemesis..ises. So do you want to be Mortal Enemies?"

That's pretty much it. Then we go on joking around and poking fun like normal.

And we have to try and take over the other's tri-state area. (or something like that)

I think there was a bit of history leading Brian and me down the path of Nemesis-dom: I beat him in fantasy football, his favorite sports teams beat mine (including the Hawks over the Flyers for the Stanley Cup), I poked fun at Canada, he poked fun at the DOT...that's about it. Now that we are sworn Mortal Enemies, our duties involve poking even more fun at each other, and taking each other out for dinner when we're in town. It's sort of like the relationship between Doofenshmirtz and Perry the Platypus.

::yes:: oh and for the record.... badaba badaba badaba badaba.

Brian and his family (wife Erika, daughters Mary, Shannon, and Megan) met us at the hotel (with another phone call from the lobby up to our room wondering what was taking us so long).

I want to defend myself here, as I did not have Mark's cell number on me and only had Barry's, that is why the call was made.... Barry was tired of waiting. :rotfl2:

Greetings were exchanged all around (I left my joy-buzzer at home), and then we set out for dinner at Lou Malnati's for some authentic Chicago deep-dish pizza. Brian swore it was the best pie in town. Sign me up!

Gotta love Lou's.

We wandered down to the restaurant, all 14 of us, and put our names in for a table. It would be 45 minutes' wait, according to the hostess. No problem, we said--we have a large group, that's understandable. We decided to take a look at the menu and place our order ahead of time--deep-dish pizzas take some time to make and cook, so we figured this would save time in the end--with 8 young kids, this is crucial. Then we hung around outside the restaurant and waited.

And waited.

:rolleyes1

The kids sat in a circle and amused themselves by playing with Madison and Sarah's American Girls. I was amazed at how well they got along. All of these kids, basically strangers, were playing with each other as though they'd known each other forever. I attribute this to terrific parenting. Or cool kids. Or blind luck.

I'll vote for Terrific Parenting... at least on the visitors. The locals was purely dumb luck.

We waited some more.

We decided to head down to the river to check out the view.

We waited.

:rolleyes1

We took some pictures. Here are the Dis Dads: Barry, me, and Brian.

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What a great looking bunch of guys. (except for that nut in the middle, it looks like he needs a shovel to lean on)

The kids might be getting a little tired of waiting.

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I recall that Megan kicked this off and the rest followed her lead. I always get a kick out of a group of kids where the leader is the youngest, least experienced. It's kind of like letting a Wisconsinite lead you around a large city in Illinois.... :rolleyes1

Julie decided to get a little artsy-fartsy:

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I like this better that the bone-phone thingy.

After 45 minutes had passed, we went back to the restaurant and asked the server if our table was ready. We started getting some shifty eyes as they answered...I'm sorry, what was your name again? It should just be a few more minutes.

We waited.

We asked again: this time, our table was being cleared off. It would be a few more minutes.

:rolleyes1

We waited. The first cries of "I'm hungry!" began to find a voice. Brian's oldest daughter, Mary, decided to start giving me chest-bumps as we stood on the sidewalk. I thought that was pretty cool.

She was actually my nemesis-knock-off-inator and she was actually trying to knock you into traffic, but if you think its cool, great! :thumbsup2

We waited.

We asked again: I'm sorry, what was your group's name again?

Finally, we decided to call in the nuclear option: All 14 of us, including the 8 young kids getting whinier by the second, would wait inside the cramped restaurant. Then they couldn't possibly ignore us!

How can you ignore 8 whiny, hungry kids????

We waited. They ignored us.

Oh that's how. :rolleyes1

We found a bench for the kids to sit on. We pestered various hostesses and managers, but to no avail. After being told earlier that our table was being cleared, we were now told that another large group was still in there and didn't seem like they were in a hurry to leave.

We waited.

The other large group still wouldn't budge. At this point, I believe Bambi was offering to go sit on their table until they left.

We waited.

Finally...a full 2 HOURS after we'd first put our names in, we were ushered to our seats. The restaurant was very broken-up about our ordeal, and offered us a free dessert. Woohoo. None of us got too excited.

And the crowd rejoiced.... yay...

Also they did provide free salad. Again.... the crowd rejoiced.... yay.... :sad2:

We took the free dessert, of course. We just weren't excited.

I don't like to be the guy who complains in restaurants. Everybody has bad nights, and most of the staff is full of overworked, underpaid people. I'm not sure what the problem was here--whether somebody missed us in the queue or what--but that was the longest wait I've ever had in a restaurant. That kind of miscommunication to your guests shouldn't happen. If there was a positive, it was that the kids were really, really well-behaved for such a long wait without food.

The food? It was ok. Brian said later he thought the restaurant had an off-night, and that he and Erika didn't think it was up to par compared to their other meals there. I think after the wait, anything would have been disappointing.

I must admit I was in a funk about this for quite a while. I was really disappointed with the experience we had. I know it wasn't anything in my control, but it sucked being the guy that picked this place and then received that experience.

That being said, Erika and I agreed on the ride home that next time we order in and serve you at our home... that way we can kick out the large group ahead of us with no bad feelings.

In any case, the upside was that we had a lot of time to hang out with Barry, Bambi, Erika and Brian. They were wonderful company. Lots of great stories and easy laughs. I'm a little confused, though. Brian and his family were warm, fun, caring people. They've been through a lot, especially with little Megan, and have pulled through admirably. So if I'm his nemesis, does that mean I'm the evil one? I need to wrap my brain around that one. Maybe we just stink at the whole nemesis thing.

I think you nailed it on that last comment. Look at who we had as role-models.... Barry and Tim.... if we are bad nemesisisisisis they make us look like Willie and the Road Runner. (I'm not sure which is which but I gotta go open my Acme delivery from Mark.)

After dinner, the restaurant was closing for last call at about 2:00 a.m. or so, and we walked back to the hotel and said our goodbyes. Barry's family was leaving that night as well, so we watched Barry execute a perfect 127-point turn to get his souped-up turbo-charged van out of the parking lot. The kids waved goodbye to Madison and Evan, and as they drove off, they immediately started asking if they could write letters to them and see them again. We thought that was a good idea. As they say: you can never have too many friends from Wisconsin.

Ok, nobody says that. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

True Dat!

A special thank-you section here: Brian & Erika, for coming into the city on your work-at-home day to spend (lots of) time with us, Kathy, for carving out a slightly-longer-than-normal lunch hour in order to meet us, and Barry & Bambi, for providing great, fun company for nearly 2 days in Chicago. You're all very special people, and we're honored to have met you.

Completely our pleasure. We really enjoyed our time with you and hope that next time we could do more together that just dinner.

Coming Up Next: Giant windmills, dinosaurs, race cars, and....Barbie?

Don Quixote?

Forget 3D glasses... you should distribute a welding mask to your TR readers.

::yes::

I'm calling BS on this one... no way his Cubs beat your Phillies... unless they played like they did in the NLDS. :rolleyes1

Not Cubs / Phillies.... Hawks Flyers, Canada USA, Bears Eagles....

So, if they apparently forgot about the fact that you'd checked in with the hostess station, did they also lose your pre-order?

Dessert always makes me excited. But I've never waited 2 hours for a table either. I'd have walked out at about 1 hr 59 minutes and then they'd call my name as the door closed... kind of like on Seinfeld.

Cartwright, party of 4?

I know that the reputation of DDC members generally precedes us, but didn’t realize that we could be so easily pulled out of a line up.

Yes, but when they wear a Flyers shirt in Chicago, you get what you deserve.

That’s alright. We saw it in Michigan (and the choice was a no brainer), so we should have been prepared in the first place.

No one could have been prepared for those legs.

**insert demonic laughter here**

Muwhahahahahaha

OK… Question Time (for all you reader that aren’t members of the DDC).
This is exactly how it works, but… does this make us (as a group that is) sound even half as goofy to the outside world as I suspect it does?

::yes::

Wait a minute… you just found the perfect analogy for our nemesis process.
And yes… yes it does make us sound like the goofs we are.

Either that or Pete and Goofy....

I suspect that if you’d have known to mention that possibility, the management would have been so appalled by the comparison that they’d have started knocking bucks off the final bill.

They did take some $$ off in the way of free extras. (salads & desserts)

Well if so… that would simply mean that you’re playing the part of Doofenshmirtz. How bad could having that reputation really be?

Actually I think I'm Doofenschmirtz as my name fits the jingle:

"middlepat's evil incorporated"

Considering the commentary I've seen herd from MiddlePat on the boards, I suspect that the folks from Illinois might beg to differ (maybe Barry and Brian should be nemesis-es-es instead)

Naw the people of Wisconsin are actually OK. So long as you don't have a dairy allergy. :rotfl2:

Of course not. We're people. If you severed people there, it would be cannibalism and they'ed probably get shut down. (I say probably because, well, it is Chicago. Who knows who's running the Health Department)

Right, and we all can verify completely the ingredients of Wisconsin sausage.

And I have the best of both worlds. Since I don't have a horse in this race, I just jump on either bandwagon, equally making fun of both of them. And I beat them both in Fantasy Football. :rolleyes1

Unfortunately, this is true... of course we both give it back to "Mr. Cheeseball" (and yes I mean both the food and the puns)

I vote "cool kids."
But since we were in Chicago, I get to vote twice, so "blind luck."

Only twice....slacker.

I think I have a slightly different version of this picture. The 5 girls are in an inner circle, playing with the dolls, the 3 boys (who, up until Shannon, Mary and Megan showed out numbered the girls) are sitting just a little further back, trying to decided if they are actually bored enough to join in and play dolls.

What's wrong with playing with dolls? :confused3

You forgot a step here. They first brought out a large bowl of salad, on the house. I recall saying (not too loudly, due to there being children around):
"Salad? We waited for two hours, and you're trying to buy us off with a f**king salad?" I don't think anyone on the staff heard me, but maybe they did.:confused3
Compared to that, the dessert was a much better way to try and win us over.

I think the problem was that they only have one spot big enough to hold that many people. A large group got there ahead of us and was seated there. They ordered, ate, then sat around socializing and wouldn't leave. Heck, they never really did - the staff convinced them to squeeze down to one table so we could have the other. And we still had 4 of the kids off in a booth by themselves because we all couldn't fit at that table.

I'm with Brian and Erika. The pizza a Lou's is usually top notch. I think the problem was that they half-cooked the pizzas when we ordered them, then finished cooking them 2 hours later when we sat down.

I think from now on I'm boycotting the downtown Lou's. The one out by us is much better, and they deliver.
 
You forgot a step here. They first brought out a large bowl of salad, on the house. I recall saying (not too loudly, due to there being children around):
"Salad? We waited for two hours, and you're trying to buy us off with a f**king salad?" I don't think anyone on the staff heard me, but maybe they did.:confused3
Compared to that, the dessert was a much better way to try and win us over.
:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl::lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:
Everybody knows you don't buy off a Dis Dad with rabbit food.:thumbsup2
 
Agreed! It was great to meet you Kathy!

Ditto, Barry!

Mark, you've just been hired as my official spokesman. As part of your duties, you'll also be required to be an alibi, should the need ever arise. And I suspect that some day it will.

Perhaps you should try to use him when you are in trouble with Bambi...which I think might be a little more frequent than you tend to let on.
 
I am glad to see that we are not the only ones who have trouble now and then with getting "forgotten" while waiting for a table!!

Bambi crack ms up....:rotfl2:...with her history of parade seating I could see her going and sitting on the table as you said!:rotfl2: I bet she was a bouncer in a previous life:lmao:

I blame my nemesis. Because I can. :stir:

Bambi definitely doesn't take any crap from anyone. Probably because she gets her fill from Barry.

A story that starts with this line can't end well.:lmao:

It sounds sort of like the start to a fourth-grade math problem.

And what "kind" would that be? Flyers fans? (I'd normally say Cubs fans but being in Chicago... :rolleyes1)

I was thinking "slobs in ratty t-shirts".

Forget 3D glasses... you should distribute a welding mask to your TR readers. :lmao::rotfl2:

We don't have the budget for that, but I probably should have issued a warning ahead of time. *Never stare directly at Capt. Oblivious without proper eye protection.

I'm calling BS on this one... no way his Cubs beat your Phillies... unless they played like they did in the NLDS. :rolleyes1

As Brian explained, it was everybody else: Bears beat the Eagles, Canada beat USA in Olympic hockey, Hawks beat Flyers...:headache:

Doesn't everybody?:confused3

::yes::

Doesn't everybody?:confused3[/QUOET]

:mad:

So, if they apparently forgot about the fact that you'd checked in with the hostess station, did they also lose your pre-order?

That was kind of a mystery. As Barry noted, it may have been started, then stopped, then started again.

Dessert always makes me excited. But I've never waited 2 hours for a table either. I'd have walked out at about 1 hr 59 minutes and then they'd call my name as the door closed... kind of like on Seinfeld.:lmao::rotfl2:

I think we were torn between wanting to give up and wanting deep-dish pizza, and not really having anywhere to go at that point that wouldn't have also involved a long wait.

Me neither. I prefer my food without spit.:thumbsup2

Speaking from experience? :confused3

:confused3 I guess as long as they bring you gifts like chocolate cheese that's probably true.

And cheese with bacon in it! :thumbsup2

Sounds like an Indiana-like day.:rolleyes1

But I didn't say "miles of flat farm fields". :rotfl:
 
Why is it that I find this last statement to be just a might suspect?

Are you suggesting that I'm an unreliable narrator? Crap, he's onto me. :rotfl2:

Generous to a fault.

The kids and I didn't find any fault with it. :confused3 :lmao:

I know that the reputation of DDC members generally precedes us, but didn’t realize that we could be so easily pulled out of a line up.

The orange shirt didn't make me any less conspicuous.

If it works anything like it does in my family, then “letting the kid(s) decide” is the same thing as giving up on what the adults would rather do in favor of something that the kids won’t punish you for forcing them to “endure” (while not actually admitting to yourself that this is what you’ve done).

::yes:: Wise, you are. :yoda:

But we may not be done with Millenium Park yet...

That’s alright. We saw it in Michigan (and the choice was a no brainer), so we should have been prepared in the first place.

Does anything really prepare you for that assault on the eyes, though?

OK… Question Time (for all you reader that aren’t members of the DDC).
This is exactly how it works, but… does this make us (as a group that is) sound even half as goofy to the outside world as I suspect it does?

Why do you think Goofy is our unofficial mascot?

Wait a minute… you just found the perfect analogy for our nemesis process.
And yes… yes it does make us sound like the goofs we are.

If the worst thing someone can accuse you of being is too goofy or having too much fun, then I think we're doing ok. :thumbsup2

I like Julie’s artsy-fartsy picture.
I like to take similar images, (and get similar rolly-eyes for doing so), but I don’t have near as good a camera.

Wanna know a secret? I like it, too. We took the plunge for a nicer camera at the beginning of last year, just wanting to get better images. We've been very happy with it.

Again… that sounds like what would happen in Charlotte. :sad2:
I suspect that if you’d have known to mention that possibility, the management would have been so appalled by the comparison that they’d have started knocking bucks off the final bill.

We got some freebies, which was the least they could do.

Well if so… that would simply mean that you’re playing the part of Doofenshmirtz. How bad could having that reputation really be?

But Doofenshmirtz is kind of an idiot...

Yeah, I guess that is pretty close. :rotfl2:

You did get a video of this right.

:guilty:

Considering the commentary I've seen herd from MiddlePat on the boards, I suspect that the folks from Illinois might beg to differ (maybe Barry and Brian should be nemesis-es-es instead)

Hmmm...Now that I think of it, I think Barry dishes out more abuse to me and Brian than we do to each other!
 
Hmmm...I don't recall this. Must have happened when I took Evan to the restroom.

Umm...yeah, that must have been it.

Of course not. We're people. If you severed people there, it would be cannibalism and they'ed probably get shut down. (I say probably because, well, it is Chicago. Who knows who's running the Health Department)

I forget, was it you or Kathy who ordered the Soylent Green sandwich? :confused3

Mark, you've just been hired as my official spokesman. As part of your duties, you'll also be required to be an alibi, should the need ever arise. And I suspect that some day it will.

Awesome! Here's a freebie: It was like that when I got here.

As Barry's Official Spokesman, he has asked me to announce that he is treating all of my readers to Dole Whips! Thanks Barry!

We've both watched enough cop shows to know that you always start looking for someone at the last place they were. It's just good detective work.

"Canvasing the area". :thumbsup2

:thumbsup2 Way to cover us!

And I have the best of both worlds. Since I don't have a horse in this race, I just jump on either bandwagon, equally making fun of both of them. And I beat them both in Fantasy Football. :rolleyes1

:headache:

I vote "cool kids."
But since we were in Chicago, I get to vote twice, so "blind luck."

Sure, that works for me.

I think I have a slightly different version of this picture. The 5 girls are in an inner circle, playing with the dolls, the 3 boys (who, up until Shannon, Mary and Megan showed out numbered the girls) are sitting just a little further back, trying to decided if they are actually bored enough to join in and play dolls.

I think they decided that playing with dolls is fun if you're allowed to pretend to shoot them. :thumbsup2

I
t's head and shoulders above the phone bone thing.

Agreed!

She's a problem solver!:thumbsup2

I'd put my money on Bambi to win that battle.

You forgot a step here. They first brought out a large bowl of salad, on the house. I recall saying (not too loudly, due to there being children around):
"Salad? We waited for two hours, and you're trying to buy us off with a f**king salad?" I don't think anyone on the staff heard me, but maybe they did.:confused3
Compared to that, the dessert was a much better way to try and win us over.

You're right! Thanks for filling in the gap. And I think we all shared your sentiments on the rabbit food.

I think the problem was that they only have one spot big enough to hold that many people. A large group got there ahead of us and was seated there. They ordered, ate, then sat around socializing and wouldn't leave. Heck, they never really did - the staff convinced them to squeeze down to one table so we could have the other. And we still had 4 of the kids off in a booth by themselves because we all couldn't fit at that table.

If they'd only asked us, we'd gladly have shoved all of the kids into a separate booth in the corner. :rolleyes1

I'm with Brian and Erika. The pizza a Lou's is usually top notch. I think the problem was that they half-cooked the pizzas when we ordered them, then finished cooking them 2 hours later when we sat down.

That could be. As I've been saying, I guess we'll have to come back to Chicago to try again! :thumbsup2

I was just going to hit the afterburners and fly out, but the exhaust gas would make it about impossible to comb your hair for the next week or so.

I hate it when that happens. I thought I heard you saying something to "K.I.T.T." as you drove off, though. :confused3

The pleasure was all ours! We'd do it again in a heartbeat if you guys are ever in the area again. :thumbsup2

I think next time we need to head a little further north. We need to hit the Machine Shed, Lambeau, Whistling Straits...ok, maybe I can't afford that last one, but a guy can dream, right?

Great Updates Barry. Have never up in that part of the country so thanks for showing it to me.

Glad you could have some successful Dismeets.

Barry? BARRY?! I spend hours agonizing over the perfect grammatical and word choices to elevate this trip report into truly profound, elegant, meaningful prose* and you give the credit to Barry??

*I rush to cram in updates during my lunch break, hoping it's not totally incoherent. If it weren't for the pictures, I'd probably have no memory of what actually happened.
 
It wasn't actually "swank."

Well, my previous point of reference was the place with the giant X-Wing Fighter in the parking lot.

Mark, in case I didn't tell you, I had never eaten there either. Mark had eaten at the one in Vegas and said it was good.

I think you did mention that. And it was a good place! I'd go back.

I think I remember it a tad differently. I ADMIRED Barry's shirt, and poked you in the chest and said in my best Blackhawk fan voice, "what the heck are you doing wearing that shirt?"

The national news media and I follow the same rule: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Hey, I have no grandchildren, so I might as well spoil other people's kids.

My kids approve of this policy! :rotfl:

That hot dog was the neatest thing! I believe the rest of the kids had the maccaroni and cheese.

I'm pretty sure you're right, since Dave only orders mac-and-cheese at restaurants.

Mark, it was MY pleasure meeting you and your adorable boys -- Dave and Scotty and Barry and his son Evan. I had a great time at lunch and hope we can have another DIS meet in the not too distant future.

I like this idea. We should meet someplace in Florida for Dole Whips.

With that heat wave we were having, you didn't get any sun prior to that picture?

I only come in 2 colors. Red and white.

And you talk about us women having our weird ways? PLEASE!

It's not weird. It's just juvenile and moronic. Which is why we do it. What's so hard to understand? :confused3

I think it just comes from having GREAT kids...if only the adults in general could be more like kids!

::yes::

I'm sorry...but if after an hour I still hadn't been shown my table, I would have walked out. And, I can't comment on Lou Malnati's downtown, but our son ordered from the one near our home. My husband and my opinion: We did NOT like it at all.

Sounds like it's garnering strong opinions either way. The only way to solve this is a 3-day deep-dish pizza binge through Chicago. Who's with me?

It sounds like an awesome DIS meet with Brian and his family...despite the long wait to eat.

These guys have wonderful families. I hope we get to see them again!

I'm calling Beverly on this. No self-respecting Hawks fan would want that day-glo orange travesty.

That, my friend, is the color of victory. And safety vests.

2??? I only see one without Cubs gear..... (Kathy get's a pass as she's the local)

Really? You're giving Barry a pass? Really?

Oh wait, now I know what blinded the folks at Grand Lux.

It burns! It burns!

Nice pic!

:thanks:


Well, howdy nemesis! How are the wife and kids?

And we have to try and take over the other's tri-state area. (or something like that)

Hmm. I invaded Indiana and Illinois, but not Wisconsin. Or is that the wrong 3 states? :confused3

oh and for the record.... badaba badaba badaba badaba.

:headache:

C'mon, you're dating yourself now. That song is old news.

I want to defend myself here, as I did not have Mark's cell number on me and only had Barry's, that is why the call was made.... Barry was tired of waiting. :rotfl2:

When Bambi has the baby, they'll move from man-to-man to zone defense...THEN they'll see.

Gotta love Lou's.

Uh...

I'll vote for Terrific Parenting... at least on the visitors. The locals was purely dumb luck.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

(thinking.)

Ok, never mind. :rotfl2:

What a great looking bunch of guys. (except for that nut in the middle, it looks like he needs a shovel to lean on)

I'm already leaning on the bridge railing. That works.

I recall that Megan kicked this off and the rest followed her lead. I always get a kick out of a group of kids where the leader is the youngest, least experienced. It's kind of like letting a Wisconsinite lead you around a large city in Illinois....

When has that ever gone wrong? Especially when the CTA provides maps of all of their bus stops.

I like this better that the bone-phone thingy.

Me too!

She was actually my nemesis-knock-off-inator and she was actually trying to knock you into traffic, but if you think its cool, great!

She's cuter than you are, so she gets a pass.

How can you ignore 8 whiny, hungry kids????



Oh that's how. :rolleyes1

:headache:

I must admit I was in a funk about this for quite a while. I was really disappointed with the experience we had. I know it wasn't anything in my control, but it sucked being the guy that picked this place and then received that experience.

Stuff happens. We only hold you partially responsible. :rotfl:

I'm kidding. It wasn't your fault. I know what you mean--I hate it when I recommend something to friends and then they have a lousy experience. But I'd give them another shot.

That being said, Erika and I agreed on the ride home that next time we order in and serve you at our home... that way we can kick out the large group ahead of us with no bad feelings.

:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:

Sounds like a plan!

I think you nailed it on that last comment. Look at who we had as role-models.... Barry and Tim.... if we are bad nemesisisisisis they make us look like Willie and the Road Runner. (I'm not sure which is which but I gotta go open my Acme delivery from Mark.)

Can you drop it on your head? You might need a crane, because it's kinda heavy.

Completely our pleasure. We really enjoyed our time with you and hope that next time we could do more together that just dinner.

:thumbsup2 I like it! Man, we have a lot on our list for our return visit.

Don Quixote?

Those aren't windmills! :scared1:

Not Cubs / Phillies.... Hawks Flyers, Canada USA, Bears Eagles....

:headache:

Actually I think I'm Doofenschmirtz as my name fits the jingle:

"middlepat's evil incorporated"

:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:

That's too perfect! I have to find a way to get that jingle recorded for you now.

Right, and we all can verify completely the ingredients of Wisconsin sausage.

*shudder*

What's wrong with playing with dolls?

:rolleyes1

I think from now on I'm boycotting the downtown Lou's. The one out by us is much better, and they deliver.

We will stand with you in this boycott.
 
:lmao::rotfl2::rotfl::lmao::rotfl2::rotfl:
Everybody knows you don't buy off a Dis Dad with rabbit food.:thumbsup2

Oooh, I think we have another DisDad man law candidate here! :thumbsup2

Perhaps you should try to use him when you are in trouble with Bambi...which I think might be a little more frequent than you tend to let on.

I'm not sure I'd be much help to Barry. Bambi doesn't really cut me much slack, either!
 
I am trying to catch up on all of the chapters that I have been missing out on this whole time :headache: Awesome trip and great pictures of course :thumbsup2 I will make it my mission to be all caught up by this afternoon (and then head home from work :rotfl:)
 
Bambi definitely doesn't take any crap from anyone. Probably because she gets her fill from Barry.
There is a lot of truth in that statement.

But I didn't say "miles of flat farm fields". :rotfl:
Ever driven through Kansas? :confused3 :rotfl2:

But Doofenshmirtz is kind of an idiot...
He has some great backstories though. :thumbsup2

Hmmm...Now that I think of it, I think Barry dishes out more abuse to me and Brian than we do to each other!
That just means you're easy targets.

As Barry's Official Spokesman, he has asked me to announce that he is treating all of my readers to Dole Whips! Thanks Barry!
Thanks Barry!!!!
:cool1::banana::dance3::woohoo::yay:

Barry? BARRY?! I spend hours agonizing over the perfect grammatical and word choices to elevate this trip report into truly profound, elegant, meaningful prose* and you give the credit to Barry??

*I rush to cram in updates during my lunch break, hoping it's not totally incoherent. If it weren't for the pictures, I'd probably have no memory of what actually happened.
Maybe you'll get credit for writing Barry's TR? :confused3 :lmao::rotfl2:

Well, my previous point of reference was the place with the giant X-Wing Fighter in the parking lot.
So you're saying that wasn't swank? I thought that was a high class exclusive establishment.

Sounds like it's garnering strong opinions either way. The only way to solve this is a 3-day deep-dish pizza binge through Chicago. Who's with me?
It sounds like hard work, but I'm willing to take one for the team. Sign me up!:thumbsup2 I only ask that we find someone not named Barry to be our official navigator.:rotfl:

That, my friend, is the color of victory. And safety vests.
So are you saying the Flyers like to stand on the ice, leaning on their hockey sticks? :lmao::rotfl2:

Oooh, I think we have another DisDad man law candidate here! :thumbsup2
Everybody knows bacon or Dole Whips are the *only foods capable of buying off a DIS Dad.

* In certain situations, Le Cellier cheese soup, a good steak, or a Mickey ice cream bar can also work.

I will make it my mission to be all caught up by this afternoon (and then head home from work :rotfl:)
Should I pick on you for being a state employee too? :lmao:
I'd rather be on here than working too. I guess that's why I am.:thumbsup2 :rotfl2:
 
That was a great update! I am so excited that you got to meet Kathy! How sweet of her to come bearing gifts for the boys. It looks like such a fun lunch!!!!

But what's up with the dinner and the two hour wait. I actually can't believe you had to wait that long. That's insane! I also can't believe the kids were as patients as they needed

Fun hidden Mickey!
 
Bambi definitely doesn't take any crap from anyone. Probably because she gets her fill from Barry.

Hey now I am a very sweet person. I only defend myself and the people that I love. And I never actually went and sat at their table. Granted Julie and I agreed that the kids could be as loud and obnoxious as they wanted to be but even then they were really well behaved.

Besides you see what I have to live with on a daily basis.


Hmmm...Now that I think of it, I think Barry dishes out more abuse to me and Brian than we do to each other!

See I told you he was the evil one.

As Barry's Official Spokesman, he has asked me to announce that he is treating all of my readers to Dole Whips! Thanks Barry!

As Barry's official wife and budget keeper this is overruled.


I'd put my money on Bambi to win that battle.

What battle? I have never been in a battle in all of my life. I may point out injustices in life but have never battled.

These guys have wonderful families. I hope we get to see them again!

We could probably arrange a trip to Delaware in the next year or so. That is if you be nice to me. I am very emotional right now and may cry. Okay, not really.


Really? You're giving Barry a pass? Really?

No giving Barry a pass, please.



When Bambi has the baby, they'll move from man-to-man to zone defense...THEN they'll see.
This sounds like a challenge.




I'm not sure I'd be much help to Barry. Bambi doesn't really cut me much slack, either!

You may actually help him here. I am immune to his tricks.

There is a lot of truth in that statement.

Alright, what is Barry saying over on the DisDad's? Given some of the statements I believe most of it would be lies.
 
Alright, what is Barry saying over on the DisDad's? Given some of the statements I believe most of it would be lies.
The emphasis of what I was agreeing with was the part about you getting your fill of crap from Barry.:lmao::rotfl2:
 
I am trying to catch up on all of the chapters that I have been missing out on this whole time :headache: Awesome trip and great pictures of course :thumbsup2 I will make it my mission to be all caught up by this afternoon (and then head home from work :rotfl:)

:welcome: Shannon! Glad you found me here.

Ever driven through Kansas? :confused3 :rotfl2:

Yeah, I did that drive...once. Actually, my dad was driving, but it was incredibly mind-numbing. I remember Iowa being a tough drive, too: 4 hours of corn.

That just means you're easy targets.

This is hard to deny. Still, wait till we see your TR...

Thanks Barry!!!!
:cool1::banana::dance3::woohoo::yay:

:woohoo:

Maybe you'll get credit for writing Barry's TR? :confused3 :lmao::rotfl2:

I think it's only fair.

So you're saying that wasn't swank? I thought that was a high class exclusive establishment.

It's all relative. It was pretty swank for people like us. I mean, it had a roof over our heads and chairs to sit on.

It sounds like hard work, but I'm willing to take one for the team. Sign me up!:thumbsup2 I only ask that we find someone not named Barry to be our official navigator.:rotfl:

It'll be a sacrifice. I'll give you a CTA map to help navigate.

So are you saying the Flyers like to stand on the ice, leaning on their hockey sticks? :lmao::rotfl2:

Only after beating the crap out of the other team.

Everybody knows bacon or Dole Whips are the *only foods capable of buying off a DIS Dad.

* In certain situations, Le Cellier cheese soup, a good steak, or a Mickey ice cream bar can also work.

I would venture to guess that bacon works well. And I'm a sucker for Philly cheese steaks.

Should I pick on you for being a state employee too? :lmao:
I'd rather be on here than working too. I guess that's why I am.:thumbsup2 :rotfl2:

I think her time spent reading the valuable information in this TR is far more productive than anything else she could be doing.

That was a great update! I am so excited that you got to meet Kathy! How sweet of her to come bearing gifts for the boys. It looks like such a fun lunch!!!!

But what's up with the dinner and the two hour wait. I actually can't believe you had to wait that long. That's insane! I also can't believe the kids were as patients as they needed

Fun hidden Mickey!

Kathy was a sweetheart, and we had a great time! And we survived dinner ok in the end.
 














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