Rush Limbaugh Arrested.

Mugg Mann said:
Generalize much? :rotfl2:

Second request. Produce a verifiable cite those shows how a "liberal" drug user was arguing for prison sentences for other drug users like Rush did on the air.

.

How can I Mugg Man. No liberal wants drug users in jail, especially a liberal drug user. :rotfl:
 
DawnCt1 said:
With regard to hypocrisy; isn't it interesting that liberals tend to judge most drug addicted individuals who have battled and won the fight against drug addiction as heroic and tenacious......unless those individuals are conservative talk show hosts then of course they are "hypocrits". He has taken responsibility for his drug problem from Day 1.

From day one of being caught. I'm not sure but didn't he also deny his housekeepers allegations for awhile? :confused3
 
Mugg Mann said:
Generalize much? :rotfl2:

Second request. Produce a verifiable cite those shows how a "liberal" drug user was arguing for prison sentences for other drug users like Rush did on the air.

But you can't, can you? Nor can you admit that Limbaugh is in fact a hypocrite.

He's not a hypocrite, he's human.

I rather doubt anyone thinks abusers of prescription drugs belong in jail/prison, but that they need help, as he did (and got).

Dealers of street drugs on the other hand? These folks belong in prison.
 
DawnCt1 said:
How can I Mugg Man. No liberal wants drug users in jail, especially a liberal drug user. :rotfl:

I hope I'm confused! Are you saying all liberals don't want drug dealers to serve any jail time. If so, you are incorrect. I am a liberal, well democrat, not particulary liberal and a public defender. Yes, I see people charged with trafficking that aren't actually drug dealers as society sees them (actually they are addicts that our republican govenor has even spent thousands of dollars studying to get them treatement instead of jail.) But even I am perfectly fine with "drug dealers" going to jail. Please get out of your box!
 

DawnCt1 said:
Liberals don't! They argue for legalizing drugs and freeing the dealers. Edited to add; I don't know of any liberals that have successful nationally syndicated talk shows that aren't in the "red". Who listens?? :confused3

That is correct; you don't know of any liberal/progressive talk shows that are nationally syndicated and doing quite well. But that doesn't mean that they don't exist, it merely means that it would serve you well to widen your horizens and realistically look around ;

-Ed Shultz; syndicated nationally and heard on Armed Forces Radio as equal time to Rush

-Al Franken; syndicated nationally and 4th highest rated talk show host in the country, and hey, the cite for that is Howie Carr's home base conservative newspaper, the Boston Herald.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/bostonh...anken's+sense:+Mitt+tops+Dubya+in+brains+dept.

-There's a ton more...Stephanie Miller, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, etc. etc. etc., and guess what; none is a hypocritical drug user who argues for prison sentences for other drug users on the air like Rush has.

Got that verifiable cite yet?
 
I love listening to Rush. I will continue listening to him. He had a problem and he is seeking help. Time to move on.
 
Mugg Mann said:
That is correct; you don't know of any liberal/progressive talk shows that are nationally syndicated and doing quite well. But that doesn't mean that they don't exist, it merely means that it would serve you well to widen your horizens and realistically look around ;

-Ed Shultz; syndicated nationally and heard on Armed Forces Radio as equal time to Rush

-Al Franken; syndicated nationally and 4th highest rated talk show host in the country, and hey, the cite for that is Howie Carr's home base conservative newspaper, the Boston Herald.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/bostonh...anken's+sense:+Mitt+tops+Dubya+in+brains+dept.

-There's a ton more...Stephanie Miller, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, etc. etc. etc., and guess what; none is a hypocritical drug user who argues for prison sentences for other drug users on the air like Rush has.

Got that verifiable cite yet?


One of my staunch conservative friends who is a bit dismayed with our President admits to tuning in and liking Randi Rhodes. I would love a point counter point type show with her and Ann Coulter. What a fireworks show that would be, although there would only be one episode because they would probably kill each other!
 
Mugg Mann said:
That is correct; you don't know of any liberal/progressive talk shows that are nationally syndicated and doing quite well. But that doesn't mean that they don't exist, it merely means that it would serve you well to widen your horizens and realistically look around ;

-Ed Shultz; syndicated nationally and heard on Armed Forces Radio as equal time to Rush

-Al Franken; syndicated nationally and 4th highest rated talk show host in the country, and hey, the cite for that is Howie Carr's home base conservative newspaper, the Boston Herald.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/bostonh...anken's+sense:+Mitt+tops+Dubya+in+brains+dept.

-There's a ton more...Stephanie Miller, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, etc. etc. etc., and guess what; none is a hypocritical drug user who argues for prison sentences for other drug users on the air like Rush has.

Got that verifiable cite yet?

I wouldn't say that any you have listed even approach being as commercially successful as Rush. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to stand their hostility and anger. I have heard Randi Rhodes and she clearly has anger issues. I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.
 
momx2 said:
I hope I'm confused! Are you saying all liberals don't want drug dealers to serve any jail time. If so, you are incorrect. I am a liberal, well democrat, not particulary liberal and a public defender. Yes, I see people charged with trafficking that aren't actually drug dealers as society sees them (actually they are addicts that our republican govenor has even spent thousands of dollars studying to get them treatement instead of jail.) But even I am perfectly fine with "drug dealers" going to jail. Please get out of your box!

Are you also a liberal talk show host?
 
TCPluto said:
He's not a hypocrite, he's human.

I rather doubt anyone thinks abusers of prescription drugs belong in jail/prison, but that they need help, as he did (and got).

Dealers of street drugs on the other hand? These folks belong in prison.

Rush Limbaugh on air; 10/5/1995

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/10/ana03004.html

And from Dictionary.com;

hypocrite

n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold [syn: dissembler, phony, phoney, pretender]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypocrite

I understand your point, but Rush makes no such distinction. Unfortunately, the first four words of your post are factually incorrect.
 
DawnCt1 said:
I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.
Why? Please elaborate.
People start using street drugs for many reasons, like self medicating for pain, mental illness, etc.
How is that any worse than what Rush Limbaugh has done?
 
DawnCt1 said:
I wouldn't say that any you have listed even approach being as commercially successful as Rush. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to stand their hostility and anger. I have heard Randi Rhodes and she clearly has anger issues. I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.
You're right, absolutely no Conservative talk show hosts have anger issues. Come on Dawn, being angry is what makes these talk show hosts what they are. And I mean virtually all of them.
 
DawnCt1 said:
I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.

Rush didn't seem to show much difference when he used to ridicule all drug addicts on his show.
 
Between the drug addiction, drug related crimes, and multiple divorces, Rush certainly does not live a conservative life. It's comical how judgemental and strident he remains in the face of his hypocrisy.

That's because (duh...) the ultra conservative talking heads aren't really conservative at all , they just use the lingo to manipulate the masses into voting for certain politicans who then use the power at will.
 
Planogirl said:
You're right, absolutely no Conservative talk show hosts have anger issues. Come on Dawn, being angry is what makes these talk show hosts what they are. And I mean virtually all of them.
The funniest of the bunch is Ann Coulter. She gets so mad her eyes start bulging and she looks like her head is about to explode. :rotfl:

She's actually kind of skeery. :worried:
 
DawnCt1 said:
Are you also a liberal talk show host?

No, I'm not. But you didn't limit your generalizations to talk show hosts. I went back and re-read your posts and you didn't say "liberal talk show hosts" you stated time and time again "liberals."

I actually like most of your posts. I hope to have the moxy you had chasing those kids from your house in your evening gown if the time arises. I have appreciated all the information on the bird flu. I also appreciate your husbands service. But with this thread you really generalize alot of things by talking about "liberals." You can't possibly know what all liberals believe. I am personally around drug addicts every day of my life in my profession. It is sad and maddening. But other than how the addiction takes place there is no difference between street drug addiction and the others. It's all addiction. It ruins lives the same, I've seen it all.
 
DawnCt1 said:
I wouldn't say that any you have listed even approach being as commercially successful as Rush. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to stand their hostility and anger. I have heard Randi Rhodes and she clearly has anger issues. I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.

You're changing your criteria on the fly, Dawn. You didn't say as commerically successful as Rush, your exact words were "I don't know of any liberals that have successful nationally syndicated talk shows that aren't in the "red". Who listens??". There's a big difference between those two concepts and we both know that.

As to your second point, your inability to listen to intelligent radio hosts offering a point of view that runs counter to your own is frankly irrelevant to the debate at hand, and only further points towards your inability to provide any verifiable cite of a "liberal" drug user advocating prison for other drug users like Rush has.

I've provided cites to back up my arguments. Where's yours?
 
Originally Posted by DawnCt1
I wouldn't say that any you have listed even approach being as commercially successful as Rush. Furthermore, I wouldn't be able to stand their hostility and anger. I have heard Randi Rhodes and she clearly has anger issues. I think that there is a big difference between a drug addiction that started with perscription drugs for pain and recreational street drugs.

Have you heard Jerry Springer (on Air America...not his trashy TV show), and Al Franken? Two liberal talk show hosts that couldn't be nicer - always let people with opposing views finish their statements and are always polite. They absolutely put the likes of Rush, Hannity, O'Reily, Boortz and Coulter to shame. Give them a try sometime.
 
momx2 said:
But other than how the addiction takes place there is no difference between street drug addiction and the others.

I couldn't disagree more.
 


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