Rumors that Disney is in negotiations to sell Star Wars back to George Lucas!

[mdmost]

I really hope they bring the Beyonder to the MCU. We need an early 70s Elvis clone.

 

[BrianL]

I really hope they bring the Beyonder to the MCU. We need an early 70s Elvis clone.

The crazy thing is, the Beyonder didn't show up like that until the mid '80s!

 

[nancipants]

Well, I'll be honest. I thought it was pandering. But you know who loved it, my two daughters and wife, and frankly that's all that matters. Guys got lots of pandering throughout the entire MCU.

It was 100% pandering and I was absolutely fine with it.

 

[etherealcaitiff]

I can't wait for the X-Men to eventually show up and there to be an M-Day movie so that all the people insecure with women having power can have an absolute aneurysm.

 

[BrianL]

I really hope they bring the Beyonder to the MCU. We need an early 70s Elvis clone.

Also, that dude actually IS the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe. THAT DUDE! That's how crazy comic books can be - well, at least they used to be - and it was awesome!

 

[leiaorgana]

God, could you imagine what would happen if the A-Force movie Brie, Tessa and Evangeline were campaigning for ever happened? Fingers crossed

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Agreed, no book will ever top Heir to the Empire's numbers, it was a juggernaut and that series is the reason that a Star Wars renaissance happened in the 1990s. I don't think people realize how much of an event that was. There's a reason characters like Grand Admiral Thrawn and Mara Jade (even though she's never been in any canon media) are still popular today.

And promptly de-cannonized by Disney as soon as they bought the company.

I mean you can't have all those stories and books that actually sell overshadowing the Disney stuff that isn't selling nearly as well right?

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

God, could you imagine what would happen if the A-Force movie Brie, Tessa and Evangeline were campaigning for ever happened? Fingers crossed

I think they should definitely do it, I mean let's go all in with this direction.

 

[BrianL]

And promptly de-cannonized by Disney as soon as they bought the company.

I mean you can't have all those stories and books that actually sell overshadowing the Disney stuff that isn't selling nearly as well right?

Odd that they still print and sell those books though, isn't it? And let's not pretend that the Expanded Universe didn't have its share of dogs too - some of the stories were downright ridiculous and not well-liked. They cleared canon so they wouldn't be beholden to it, just like George Lucas was never beholden to any of it either.

 

[leiaorgana]

I believe George said he saw the EU as it’s own separate universe and just let the writers get on with it.

 

[mdmost]

Odd that they still print and sell those books though, isn't it? And let's not pretend that the Expanded Universe didn't have it's share of dogs too - some of the stories were downright ridiculous and not well-liked. They cleared canon so they wouldn't be beholden to it, just like George Lucas was never beholden to any of it either.

Right. It doesn't change that the books were written and what they meant at the time and still mean to people. It just means there are not conventions that future Star Wars script writers have to be held to.

 

[BrianL]

I believe George said he saw the EU as it’s own separate universe and just let the writers get on with it.

Right. He adhered to it when he wanted to, but basically did whatever he wanted in the movies. He changed several backstories with the Prequels. This is basically the same as new canon too - they use things from the old EU a lot, especially in the animation. It's no different than the MCU being different than the comics and changing things as they need to.

 

[nancipants]

And let's not pretend that the Expanded Universe didn't have its share of dogs too - some of the stories were downright ridiculous and not well-liked.

The Crystal Star, come on down!

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Odd that they still print and sell those books though, isn't it? And let's not pretend that the Expanded Universe didn't have its share of dogs too - some of the stories were downright ridiculous and not well-liked. They cleared canon so they wouldn't be beholden to it, just like George Lucas was never beholden to any of it either.

I mean it's really hard to top High Republic characters like "Geode" (Who looks like a rock) and is the navigator for a transport starship called "Vessel". I mean that represents the pinnacle of creative genius right there, hard to imagine Zahn coming up with anything that was half as inventive.

 

[nancipants]

And promptly de-cannonized by Disney as soon as they bought the company.

"promptly" = 1.5 years later.

 

[BrianL]

I mean it's really hard to top High Republic characters like "Geode" (Who looks like a rock) and is the navigator for a transport starship called "Vessel". I mean that represents the pinnacle of creative genius right there, hard to imagine Zahn coming up with anything that was half as inventive.

So you're gonna bang on Geode, a character which is in fact VERY creative, in the sense that there is no other character like him. Certianly, it's fair not to like the idea or the book, but not liking a book doens't mean that EVERYTHING ABOUT IT has to be bad. You don't have to like Geode, but it IS creative.

 

[mdmost]

I feel there's a massive rigidity to Star Wars fans. It's probably why I didn't enjoy the prequels as much. A lot of what happened on screen didn't jive with what I had been told in the OT. I never saw that Obi Wan and Anakin were "good friends". I didn't really see that Anakin was seduced by the Dark Side in so much as he was desperate to save the woman he loved at any cost. Yoda seemed to be a totally different person than what he was in the OT. I am not a fan of twirling, Tasmanian Devil Yoda with a lightsaber.

But you know what, ultimately who cares? It's George's work and he's been making changes to it for decades. That's the thing, the original movie was lightning in a bottle. So there was no real blue print where Darth Vader was originally Anakin or Luke's father. That didn't come about till Empire's 2nd draft. Leia wasn't Luke's twin sister until the Jedi 2nd draft. George still had plans for a 2nd trilogy where Luke's sister was on the other side of the galaxy and the Emperor would appear in that. He then decided he didn't want to keep going so he truncated it all. It was all fairly fungible and the Clone Wars were designed to fill in the gaps.

 

[nancipants]

I mean it's really hard to top High Republic characters like "Geode" (Who looks like a rock) and is the navigator for a transport starship called "Vessel". I mean that represents the pinnacle of creative genius right there, hard to imagine Zahn coming up with anything that was half as inventive.

*ahem*

Hot Chocolate.

Luuke.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

So you're gonna bang on Geode, a character which is in fact VERY creative, in the sense that there is no other character like him. Certianly, it's fair not to like the idea or the book, but not liking a book doens't mean that EVERYTHING ABOUT IT has to be bad. You don't have to like Geode, but it IS creative.

 

[nancipants]

You haven't even read the books!!!!