Rumor has it that Susan Atkins is dying

[Master Mason]

HHHm..I could have sworn there was a federal repeal

It was a federal repeal, which caused the states to act according to then federal guidlines. So I guess if you want to be techical, the State did make the change, but it was caused by a federal rulling.

But anyway, my point when I entered the thread was it wasn't a law that was changed converting the sentances it was court rulings.

 

[Mkaz]

Sorry to ruin your rooting for this woman to die rolleyes:

Would you feel differently if a man did this to a woman? I don't think anyone is "rooting" for this woman to die. However, it's hard to feel badly for someone who committed such a horrible crime.

 

[JennyMominRI]

It was a federal repeal, which caused the states to act according to then federal guidlines. So I guess if you want to be techical, the State did make the change, but it was caused by a federal rulling.

But anyway, my point when I entered the thread was it wasn't a law that was changed converting the sentances it was court rulings.

OK, thanks..That makes sense

 

[wdw4us2]

The Tate/La Bianca murders are among the most heinous crimes in American history. No sentence can equal the suffering of those who were butchered by Manson and his family members.

About 10 years ago, Diane Sawyer did an interview with the Manson women who were serving life sentences for the crimes. VanHouten and Krenwinkle have found God, said they're sorry, etc. but to me it makes no difference. They should never be released from prison and I have absolutely no sympathy for what Susan Atkins is suffering now. It can't compare to what she did.

 

[Amy&Dan]

God Forbid I ever have to find out

to be honest If I true felt like everytime that someone took another person life they should die, I would be ate alive with hate I personally see abortion as killing someone do I think they should die because they took a innocent life NO

I'll be honest with you, I think its insane to compare the two. In no way can you compare an abortion with the manner in which Susan Atkins took Sharon Tate's life and the life of her unborn child. I know a lot of anti abortion folks and I cannot imagine anyone of them equating the two.

 

[merekc]

I don't really know specifics about this case or the state/federal law issue, but just wanted to pipe in that Wikipedia (while a great resource) is not always accurate. We many times find things we know are inaccurate and confirm it by researching elsewhere. Anyone can put info on Wikipedia. See statement below, straight from their site.


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[Carly_Roach]

Where are all the folks that want to tell us how evil we are for wanting another human to die?

We're here. Our compassionate and forgiving nature helps us realize that there's nothing we can say that would change anyone's minds. You're going to feel the way you feel until you don't feel like feeling that way anymore. When it comes to Susan Atkins, Charles Manson or any of the people who committed those murders 40 years ago, I only have one question:

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would forgive her, so that's what I will do/have done.

Jesus would have said something once to try to convince people that they are hurting themselves more than they are hurting the person they hate, then he would have forgiven them their feelings and moved on to more positive and productive conversations.

So that's what we've done and why you won't see too many of us posting on a thread like this.

Carry on.

 

[JennyMominRI]

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would forgive her, so that's what I will do/have done.

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What Jesus would do is irrelevent to me. Honestly though, G-d may have pity for her. That's between her and G-d..He's much better than me..


There are also many Christians who favor the death penalty

 

[Master Mason]

We're here. Our compassionate and forgiving nature helps us realize that there's nothing we can say that would change anyone's minds. You're going to feel the way you feel until you don't feel like feeling that way anymore. When it comes to Susan Atkins, Charles Manson or any of the people who committed those murders 40 years ago, I only have one question:

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would forgive her, so that's what I will do/have done.

Jesus would have said something once to try to convince people that they are hurting themselves more than they are hurting the person they hate, then he would have forgiven them their feelings and moved on to more positive and productive conversations.

So that's what we've done and why you won't see too many of us posting on a thread like this.

Carry on.

I am much more of an old testement sort of guy when it comes to crime.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I am much more of an old testement sort of guy when it comes to crime.

Heh! It was actually pretty rare for the Hebrews to execute someone.. In fact SUsan Atkins could not be executed according to Jewish law ..

A Jewish court that killed more than one person in 70 years was considered a bloody court

 

[kbeverina]

I don't believe Susan is remorseful ..The only one I thik shows real remorse is Patricia Krenwekle .

This case has been a bit of a obsession of mine for many years.

Have you seen the Ghost Hunters episode where they go to the house that sits on the site where the murders took place? It was freaky!

 

[JennyMominRI]

Have you seen the Ghost Hunters episode where they go to the house that sits on the site where the murders took place? It was freaky!

I did..I don't know what I think about it...The *voice* of the woman was chilling.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I am much more of an old testement sort of guy when it comes to crime.

But even the old testament said "Vengeance is the Lord's". I'm not an overly religious person, but there are some lessons taught by Christ that have stood me in good stead. Forgiveness is one of them.

People here are outraged and sickened reliving what happened over 40 years ago and there's much gnashing of teeth in speaking about how they're glad this person is dying in a painful way. And here I am. Calm, cool, collected, almost catatonically mellow, with no stomach pains or tenseness in the shoulders upon hearing of this news.

Susan Atkins has done nothing to me. She made a horrifying mistake 40 years ago and has been paying for it ever since. The victims have long since started their new lives elsewhere. The only person I'd be harming by getting all angry, vindictive or even vengefully glee-filled over her further misfortune is myself.

I have more respect for myself than to allow this peaceful easy feeling to ebb away over a blip on the screen that had nothing to do with my life 40 years ago and still has nothing to do with my life today.

I can change nothing in Susan's or her victim's lives. I can, however, impact my own life. I make the everyday choices that allow me to live in a serene state.

 

[JennyMominRI]

But even the old testament said "Vengeance is the Lord's". I'm not an overly religious person, but there are some lessons taught by Christ that have stood me in good stead. Forgiveness is one of them.

People here are outraged and sickened reliving what happened over 40 years ago and there's much gnashing of teeth in speaking about how they're glad this person is dying in a painful way. And here I am. Calm, cool, collected, almost catatonically mellow, with no stomach pains or tenseness in the shoulders upon hearing of this news.

Susan Atkins has done nothing to me. She made a horrifying mistake 40 years ago and has been paying for it ever since. The victims have long since started their new lives elsewhere. The only person I'd be harming by getting all angry, vindictive or even vengefully glee-filled over her further misfortune is myself.

I have more respect for myself than to allow this peaceful easy feeling to ebb away over a blip on the screen that had nothing to do with my life 40 years ago and still has nothing to do with my life today.

I can change nothing in Susan's or her victim's lives. I CAN impact my own life. It's my everyday choices that allow me to live in such a serene state.

Yes, your posts scream peaceful easy feelings

 

[Carly_Roach]

Yes, your posts scream peaceful easy feelings

And on that note.....

Thank you for proving my point. Carry on.

 

[bigmerle1966]

She made a horrifying mistake 40 years ago and has been paying for it ever since. The victims have long since started their new lives elsewhere. The only person I'd be harming by getting all angry, vindictive or even vengefully glee-filled over her further misfortune is myself.

A mistake!?!?! A mistake would be if she accidentally shot her or accidentally hit her with a car. You can't mistakenly stab someone over and over!

And honestly I was pretty mellow myself until I read what you wrote!

 

[Deb in IA]

The victims have long since started their new lives elsewhere.

No, actually, they've been dead for 40 years.

 

[Mkaz]

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would forgive her, so that's what I will do/have done.


So that's what we've done and why you won't see too many of us posting on a thread like this.

Carry on.

First, I don't think that anyone here needs to forgive her unless the crime she committed was against them. Most people here have agreed that they have NO sympathy for what she is going through right now. No one said anything about forgiveness.

Second, what compelled YOU to post on this thread then. Did you feel the need to tell everyone how horrible they are because they have no compassion for her? She certainly showed no compassion when Sharon Tate was begging for her (and her baby's) life.

 

[bigmerle1966]

No, actually, they've been dead for 40 years.

Too true!

 

[agnes!]

It was my impression that Jesus said that you are to forgive (up to seventy times seven) the person who's wronged you when they ask for forgiveness. I think the only people who Susan Atkins (if the news is true) can ask for forgiveness are Sharon Tate, the Polanski/Tate baby, Roman Polanski and any surviving Tate or Polanski family relatives.

It was a very sad time and a very scary time.

agnes!