Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[tinkerhon]

I think it would be nice if we were given a small bottle of hand sanitizer upon check in. Doesn’t have to be large, travel size will do, left in our rooms.

Yea, they could leave it in place of the coffee pots ! )

 

[SaintsManiac]

There are bathrooms all over the parks. You’re never that far away from one.

Right but I’m not running to one between every ride. I usually bring wipes for after rides, especially TSMM.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Just for the sake of argument
I think we can agree that the virus had to have been present at WDW before the closing
We know the parks and Disney springs were packed before the closing
We know there wasn't an outbreak coming from WDW, sure people might've been infected, sick, some even died but not an outbreak. Most recuperated
This was all before most people were taking precautions
Most of the country and the world has been shutdown, people staying at home making sure not to contract or spread the virus
WDW is reopening with extra precautions in place
People are better educated and aware on what to do
When guests come back they will mostly all be free of virus
Why is there such a fear of reopening?

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[LSUmiss]

For what it's worth, I don't think they will either. But it does look bad making CM's, especially the ones outside wear masks, and not guests. They may very well make it mandatory for a bit.

I disagree. Wearing a mask does not replace social distancing. So guests should be social distancing. Cms may not be able to social distance as easily in certain situations.

 

[CaliforniaGirl09]

My healthy adult sister with severe Autism and sensory processing issues wears a mask with no issue. As does my Autistic daughter. Not all autistic people are the same.

Also, the guidelines for most places are that children under 2, and those who have medical (etc... Such as Autism, sensory issues etc...) issues that prevent them from wearing one are exempt.

Totally agree! My son is special needs with sensory issues. It took patience and a couple weeks, but he wears a mask with no problem. He knows that if he wants to go outside on a walk (or anywhere else in the future) he will have to wear one. One of the ways we got him to wear it was telling him that if wanted to go to Disneyland in the next 12-18 months, he was going to have to wear a mask. We started with tea towels bandana style and gradually worked him up to regular masks. I bought him sport team and disney themed masks off etsy, and he has no problem now. He knows not to touch it. To wash his hands before taking it off or on. To only handle it by the elastic. To wash it every time. That if he touches the front, it's like touching dog doo, etc. It's not rocket science.

This! People wear masks all the time in hot and humid places with lots of smog and they are not passing out. Americans just don’t want to wear them. The person wearing the mask is protecting others from them. But, how exactly are we protecting the CMs?

I really don't get the resistance that some people have to wearing masks. Why would you not want to protect your family and those around you as much as possible? I was sold on masks early on after reading about the bus case in China and the choir case in Washington. People really don't seem to get that it's not the person sneezing next to you that is the only issue: it's you and me and everyone else who might not know they have it talking, singing, yelling, huffing and puffing while running, etc. The biggest danger is from the asymptomatic carriers, and that is who I will be worried about at Disneyland. If I'm standing in line for a ride, I want people to have their mouths covered so any potential viral load coming in my direction is inhibited. A mask isn't a magic pill, but it it certainly one more layer of protection. We wear them whenever we go out. When we are exercising in the heat, we wear a double layer tea towels bandana style. That covers our mouth and nose but gives a little more air from the neck. We managed just fine doing a long hike in the hills on a hot day.

JetBlue just made masks mandatory on flights. I hope other airlines and places like Disney follow suit.

 

[Pickle Rick]

I disagree. Wearing a mask does not replace social distancing. So guests should be social distancing. Cms may not be able to social distance as easily in certain situations.

You make a good point there. I agree that they won't be enforced for guests, but they will be heavily encouraged. Guarantee it.

 

[LSUmiss]

I missed the plan is paper.

But I feel like that is going to get slammed for wastefulness real quick...

Not for a while i don’t think. The virus precautions seem to have replaced any concern for the environment.

 

[waltfan1957]

Agree and this may be a subtle way for Disney to discourage those in higher risks groups without telling those groups to stay home, which would not be very guest friendly. But since it's not feasible to implement these social distancing measures with ECVs, it's just easier to direct everyone to wheelchairs.

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I wouldn't be surprised if those measures are put in place here.

Anyone have any idea what their doing about bag check, as I wouldn't want some person going through my bag after someone else's.

 

[AmberMV]

Just for the sake of argument
I think we can agree that the virus had to have been present at WDW before the closing
We know the parks and Disney springs were packed before the closing
We know there wasn't an outbreak coming from WDW, sure people might've been infected, sick, some even died but not an outbreak. Most recuperated
This was all before most people were taking precautions
Most of the country and the world has been shutdown, people staying at home making sure not to contract or spread the virus
WDW is reopening with extra precautions in place
People are better educated and aware on what to do
When guests come back they will mostly all be free of virus
Why is there such a fear of reopening?
ETA I know there are asymptomatic people but if you've been home for 14 days at least it has gone through your system already

The fear is not of reopening. The fear is of reopening either too soon or without proper precautions in place. Just because the curve has started to flatten doesn't mean we are through the thick of it. If you open too soon you just create a new curve. As I type this, in the U.S. we see over 10,000 new cases per day. In the world, we see over 100,000 new cases per day. That is a lot of new cases. And we don't know enough about this virus to say how it will mutate, what 2nd wave we can expect, etc. We are essentially reopening our economy in total blindness-before we know the full effect of this virus and before there is any proven treatment, cure or vaccine. Of course we cannot stay closed forever. What is happening several different things, but the main point is that our society is saying basically "More people will get sick and die, but we have to accept that so our economy doesn't collapse past the point of recovery." It's morbid, but that is the gist of it.

 

[MoeJ]

I absolutely HATE hand dryers. I can't help but get skeeved out at the thought of all sorts of bacteria flying off someone's hands and all over the place if they only gave a cursory wash to begin with.

This was long before COVID, BTW. I've disliked them since they started to become common years ago.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

I must be missing something here with all of these posts related to how Disney will implement social distancing. In my opinion, they won’t. Not because they don’t want to, because it’s impossible. Social distancing is the exact opposite of a theme park experience. They can put all the tape on the floor they want, but it won’t do a thing. People can’t even follow the one way aisles at my local Kroger, do we really expect thousands of people to stand on the right square in a 3 hour FOP line?!? I certainly think they will open with limited overall capacity, enhanced cleaning and perhaps some changes to food service at buffets, drink dispensers, etc....but I honestly don’t think they will be implementing social distancing in any meaningful way.

 

[anthony2k7]

Especially if attractions are mostly on reduced capacity....only one FOP/Soarin' theater, only one track for TSM or SM or all indoor theaters are closed.

Quickly that 50% capacity will make the waits feel like a 9/10.

Exactly.

If disney was part of the decision on the 50% then it really looks like a token gesture and concerns me that they are planning on doing the least they can get away with doing on this.

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

The fear is not of reopening. The fear is of reopening either too soon or without proper precautions in place. Just because the curve has started to flatten doesn't mean we are through the thick of it. If you open too soon you just create a new curve. As I type this, in the U.S. we see over 10,000 new cases per day. In the world, we see over 100,000 new cases per day. That is a lot of new cases. And we don't know enough about this virus to say how it will mutate, what 2nd wave we can expect, etc. We are essentially reopening our economy in total blindness-before we know the full effect of this virus and before there is any proven treatment, cure or vaccine. Of course we cannot stay closed forever. What is happening several different things, but the main point is that our society is saying basically "More people will get sick and die, but we have to accept that so our economy doesn't collapse past the point of recovery." It's morbid, but that is the gist of it.

The one benefit to virus mutation is that it tends to be beneficial to any host; viruses are not alive, and thus cannot reproduce without a host. The reason that the cold virus is so pervasive is because it has mutated so that it minimizes serious damage to the host and the host survives. Without survival of the host a virus cannot reproduce most effectively.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I don’t know if this is too OT but in my province we’ve been sitting between 0 and I believe 4 new cases a day for at least a week, maybe it’s been 2. We are doing pretty good here. Our plan for reopening has not even been announced yet let alone put into action, so I’m sure that skews my perception on what’s going on in Florida. It feels very early to me.

My fear is the parks opening too soon and too fast contributing to extending this crappy situation we’re all in. I don’t fear them opening in general. I don’t believe for a second if left unchecked WDW being open as usual with a few hygiene tweaks during a pandemic has little to no impact outside WDW. I am not of the just wash your hands and worry about yourself mindset. Plus there is also so much unknown about this virus in terms of how it spreads, how long you can spread it for and when, when you are no longer contagious, etc. I wish we had better answers but I recognize the clear answers may never really come.

All in all I’m of the slow and steady mindset. Very gradual openings of things with preventative measures in place, take the time to monitor the effect, etc. For example, I can choose not to go to a crowded NHL game in my city when they open back up eventually, but if they open too quickly and not safely I am not protected by the impact of those decisions if numbers shoot up in my city just because I didn’t go.

I cannot wait for the day we start moving back towards normalcy. I think I may spend almost my entire WDW trip (whenever it finally happens) crying happy tears. But I think in order for that to happen we need to move slow and be cautious. So yeah, not afraid of opening things, just want it done well to prevent this from going anymore than it has to.

As an aside, as I have felt since January, I would love nothing more than to be wrong about how this all goes. Shower me in I told you so’s if Disney opens without much difference and COVID goes away. I want nothing more than this to be harder to spread and less impactful on all our lives.

 

[Mandy91]

All in all I’m of the slow and steady mindset. Very gradual openings of things with preventative measures in place, take the time to monitor the effect, etc. For example, I can choose not to go to a crowded NHL game in my city when they open back up eventually, but if they open too quickly and not safely I am not protected by the impact of those decisions if numbers shoot up in my city just because I didn’t go.

Yes. This. I live in Orlando and I’d rather not have a bunch of people rushing here as soon as everything opens. That is my fear. I understand things need to open, but it needs to be slow and gradual, like they were originally proposing.

 

[SierraT]

I disagree. Wearing a mask does not replace social distancing. So guests should be social distancing. Cms may not be able to social distance as easily in certain situations.

I can’t recall which thread but someone here was on a conference call with some of the Orlando medical experts over the weekend and they mentioned the original guidelines again. Stay 6ft. apart, wash your hands, and don’t touch your face (masks weren’t included). In my opinion, I think masks are a feel good safety net unless you are wearing the N95 and then a person needs to use them properly. Personally, whatever makes people feel comfortable is what they should do, but I’m not unhappy about the social distancing aspect. Maybe people will now have boundaries.

 

[cakebaker]

Yes. This. I live in Orlando and I’d rather not have a bunch of people rushing here as soon as everything opens. That is my fear. I understand things need to open, but it needs to be slow and gradual, like they were originally proposing.

If they limit to resort guests only, my guess is the majority of people won’t ever leave WDW property. It’s not like they’ll spend a lot of time at local venues. I know we won’t. Once on property, we’ll be there until our trip is over. To me, the bigger risk is people coming in for the day and then head back into the community.

 

[Mandy91]

If they limit to resort guests only, my guess is the majority of people won’t ever leave WDW property. It’s not like they’ll spend a lot of time at local venues. I know we won’t. Once on property, we’ll be there until our trip is over. To me, the bigger risk is people coming in for the day and then head back into the community.

That works for Disney, but would it work for Universal? Or the other big tourist attractions we have here.

 

[cakebaker]

That works for Disney, but would it work for Universal? Or the other big tourist attractions we have here.

i don’t know. For as many times as I’ve been to WDW, I have almost no experience with any other attractions. I’m strictly a WDW fan.

 

[mmackeymouse]

Only if it could be proven that it came directly from being at Disney. That's pretty much impossible. There is no way there wasn't COVID going around the parks. No masks, no social distancing, no hand sanitizer, LOTS of people from overseas. WDW is a petri dish at the best of times. That last weekend? I was surprised that many people went, knowing the risks. But i don't think a lot of them were taking it seriously.

Oh my. Well, if you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

How many times have we seen a Disney article written from a clearly out-of-context position?

And, remember last year, when DCL was demonized because of ONE report based on ONE social media post, which many media outlets ultimately ran with, without any facts. (During Dorian, when cast members were locked down in a bunker on Castaway)

If the right well-written social media post was viewed by the right set of eyes.....it could easily blow up.