Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[WonderlandisReality]

Just throwing this out here as a response to the testing requirement as a condition for opening, children.

If children are required to have the swab stuck up their nose daily, how many will cry and work themselves up? Will that and the Florida heat raise their temp ever so slightly setting off fever alarms? Will parents be required to physically restrain their children in order to hopefully enter the happiest place on earth? Will this cause a back up of people and a crowd thus negating the crowd control measures?

I don’t disagree with making modifications, but consider the audience for Disney when making those decisions. I’ve seen the comments about children wearing masks, or rather not wearing them well. I would add this to the list of “what to do with kids?”.

A nasopharyngeal swab usually involves restraining pediatric patients. An oropharyngeal swab does as well, although to a lesser extent. The rapid test machine I am familiar with has an hourly capacity of 1-4 tests. I can’t even conceive of how that is a workable solution for WDW. You would need about as many healthcare workers as guests. There would undoubtedly be a massive bottleneck to enter

 

[nkosiek]

One of the things they could do if they went the "parks, no resorts" route would be to open up the Contemporary/BLT lots, as well as pushing to get the GF-MK bridges/walkway done and get people parking over at the GF and Poly as well. Spread parking and people around.

 

[TwoMisfits]

For the testing and results, it will be interesting to see how they interplay with HIPAA rules - you're gonna need folks not just waiving liability to Disney, but also waiving HIPAA rights...and waiving HIPAA rights gets complicated...

It's one thing to just wave a thermometer and say "all folks with a number over 100 can't get in until they get further testing done with docs in the community" - there's no real medical work there...

It's another to do a medical test at the park, administered by medical personnel, and then disclose results for entry or refusal to non-medical personnel, like Disney entry folks - I mean, think back to early 1980's and AIDS, when no one knew how it was passed. Can you imagine that ever getting through without a lawsuit? Folks would have been apoplectic about being labeled lepers...

 

[TwoMisfits]

One of the things they could do if they went the "parks, no resorts" route would be to open up the Contemporary/BLT lots, as well as pushing to get the GF-MK bridges/walkway done and get people parking over at the GF and Poly as well. Spread parking and people around.

Then, that may be the MK open plan...4 hotels of parking lots would probably be sufficient...with cast members parking elsewhere b/c they can be tested and transported...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

But as soon as they open up their outgoings increase dramatically. If their income doesn't increase at least as much as their outgoings then they will be even worse off.

true - but if it is an investment now so they can slowly expand their offerings and more quickly get to a point they are making more $ then it might be worth it. Like if they lose money in Phase 1 but make money in Phase 2 and by openign in phase 1 it lets them get to pahse 2 much faster by workign through things, etc. then the investment might be worth it vs just waiting much, much longer to be able to go right to phase 2

(not saying this is the case, but that could be a scenario where opening in a situations were they lose money makes sense)

 

[HuskieJohn]

I have to say even if I were not booked for a trip in 58 days I would be deeply interested in the modifications that WDW actually does. I had a disaster preparedness class in my Grad program and found it fascinating.

 

[ThistleMae]

No matter when they open they aren’t going to just open as normal. Whoever is in that first group is going to get a lesser experience. There is no way around it.

I agree. I just wonder how many people would still attend.

 

[Leigh L]

I have to say even if I were not booked for a trip in 58 days I would be deeply interested in the modifications that WDW actually does. I had a disaster preparedness class in my Grad program and found it fascinating.

Ditto, I took a couple of these classes, and agree!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I have to say even if I were not booked for a trip in 58 days I would be deeply interested in the modifications that WDW actually does. I had a disaster preparedness class in my Grad program and found it fascinating.

I too am very interested in this and find the process fascinating .... although part of me almost feels "dirty" with getting some enjoyment (for lack of a better word) out of this element when it is such a dangerous time in the grand scheme

 

[TheMaxRebo]

REPORT

According to a report from My News 13, some of the steps considered would include a gradual reopening of the attractions industry starting with Florida residents before letting national and international guests visit.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/walt-disney-world-reopening-could-let-florida-residents-return-first/

 

[TwoMisfits]

REPORT

According to a report from My News 13, some of the steps considered would include a gradual reopening of the attractions industry starting with Florida residents before letting national and international guests visit.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/walt-disney-world-reopening-could-let-florida-residents-return-first/

And I suggested that as the order of the wave of visitors last week...dang, I should get in the prediction business...

 

[WonderlandisReality]

REPORT

According to a report from My News 13, some of the steps considered would include a gradual reopening of the attractions industry starting with Florida residents before letting national and international guests visit.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/walt-disney-world-reopening-could-let-florida-residents-return-first/

“By the end of the week.” I do like this part. I, personally, would love to see what the actual plan is vs. the speculation so we can actually get back to planning a trip vs. trying to see if one would work for our family

 

[yulilin3]

“By the end of the week.” I do like this part. I, personally, would love to see what the actual plan is vs. the speculation so we can actually get back to planning a trip vs. trying to see if one would work for our family

I said this yesterday. I believe we'll have a phase 1 plan announced during the first week of may

 

[Spridell]

I said this yesterday. I believe we'll have a phase 1 plan announced during the first week of may

I think Phase 2. From what I gathered Phase 1 is happening now

 

[Spridell]

If anyone wants to listen. LIVE NOW. Josh Damaro is on the call from what I am hearing

https://thefloridachannel.org/

 

[tlmadden73]

REPORT

According to a report from My News 13, some of the steps considered would include a gradual reopening of the attractions industry starting with Florida residents before letting national and international guests visit.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/walt-disney-world-reopening-could-let-florida-residents-return-first/

That makes sense, and frankly only the locals probably would be willing to go to WDW early with a "modified" experience since transportation and hotel costs aren't a factor (compared to a "vacationer").

Things will open back up .. and cases WILL spike, as easy as this thing spreads, doesn't seem like any avoiding it. We just need individuals to take precautions and not panic again and lock everything back up.

That being said .. it just seems like it will be hard .. in this very polarized "how to handle the virus" climate to have any places of "large gatherings of people" open for months. I mean just look at the media blow back from Jacksonville opening the beaches despite a giant, wide open outdoor space being a pretty safe place to be. (And even though the pictures showed people distancing pretty well).

ANY large gathering of people in the coming months is going to be criticized and given bad press because it isn't on the far left extreme end of how to handle it (basically lock down for months until it is "safe" (which is unrealistic)).

No matter what Disney does to mitigate the virus, I fear ONE single case or, even worse, ONE single death linked to someone going to WDW and the media will be all over it and quick to point blame to an "a giant evil for-profit company".

 

[SaintsManiac]

And I suggested that as the order of the wave of visitors last week...dang, I should get in the prediction business...

You and me both.

 

[HuskieJohn]

I too am very interested in this and find the process fascinating .... although part of me almost feels "dirty" with getting some enjoyment (for lack of a better word) out of this element when it is such a dangerous time in the grand scheme

Yes! I completely agree about feeling dirty about being excited about such a dangerous time.

My wife yells at me when we have a big storm (typically micro bursts) and afterwards I want to go out and see where I can help or at least see what the authorities are doing to help. Now I like my once a week grocery & errand trip to see what other people are doing and how they are doing it.

There is apparently another WDW/Univ/Orlando/FL meeting today so hopefully some additional solid modification news comes out today...rather than just coming up with our own ideas.

 

[mshanson3121]

Just throwing this out here as a response to the testing requirement as a condition for opening, children.

If children are required to have the swab stuck up their nose daily, how many will cry and work themselves up? Will that and the Florida heat raise their temp ever so slightly setting off fever alarms? Will parents be required to physically restrain their children in order to hopefully enter the happiest place on earth? Will this cause a back up of people and a crowd thus negating the crowd control measures?

I don’t disagree with making modifications, but consider the audience for Disney when making those decisions. I’ve seen the comments about children wearing masks, or rather not wearing them well. I would add this to the list of “what to do with kids?”.

They would use oral swabs, not the nasal ones. Not that you may not have to restrain some kids for those, but, they would definitely be a lot easier than the nose ones. My guess is they'll have some sort of "Disney gift" to hand the kids after doing their swab as an incentive - stickers at the very least, perhaps something else. Who knows.

REPORT

According to a report from My News 13, some of the steps considered would include a gradual reopening of the attractions industry starting with Florida residents before letting national and international guests visit.

https://blogmickey.com/2020/04/walt-disney-world-reopening-could-let-florida-residents-return-first/

This sounds as though it's based off yesterday's comments. But I 100% believe this is how it's going to be. Florida residents only initially. It just makes sense. I know in our own province, they have said that opening the borders for travel, will be the very last thing to happen.

“By the end of the week.” I do like this part. I, personally, would love to see what the actual plan is vs. the speculation so we can actually get back to planning a trip vs. trying to see if one would work for our family

I know. The dangnabbit unknowns are so hard. I mean, our bigger worry is DH's job in the fall. We have no idea if he's going to have one or not. Then there's the medical aspect for our daughter - all her appointments are now on hold. When are they going to happen? How long will they continue to be postponed? But yes, travel, too. We had full plans on booking our Disney package as soon as they opened up in June. Now, I really don't know if there'll be any point. We already cancelled our trip to New Hampshire for June, but we would love to know if we'll be able to travel somewhere else (in Canada) this summer. Though by the sounds of things, we'll be confined to our province only. Which is fine - we can book a small getaway somewhere locally. But.... when? Total first world issue that really doesn't matter. But... that old saying, "You always want what you can't have?" Now that we can't travel, travelling is always on my mind, lol.

 

[Jrb1979]

That makes sense, and frankly only the locals probably would be willing to go to WDW early with a "modified" experience since transportation and hotel costs aren't a factor (compared to a "vacationer").

Things will open back up .. and cases WILL spike, as easy as this thing spreads, doesn't seem like any avoiding it. We just need individuals to take precautions and not panic again and lock everything back up.

That being said .. it just seems like it will be hard .. in this very polarized "how to handle the virus" climate to have any places of "large gatherings of people" open for months. I mean just look at the media blow back from Jacksonville opening the beaches despite a giant, wide open outdoor space being a pretty safe place to be. (And even though the pictures showed people distancing pretty well).

ANY large gathering of people in the coming months is going to be criticized and given bad press because it isn't on the far left extreme end of how to handle it (basically lock down for months until it is "safe" (which is unrealistic)).

No matter what Disney does to mitigate the virus, I fear ONE single case or, even worse, ONE single death linked to someone going to WDW and the media will be all over it and quick to point blame to an "a giant evil for-profit company".

Here in Canada the chief medical officer has stated that large gatherings are most likely not going to happen here til there is a way to treat this or a vaccine. That rules our theme parks, sporting events and concerts here for the time being.