Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[Krandor]

If the parks are resort guests only WDW can test everyone before check in once and leave it at that.

If you do not want to allow WDW to test you then you can get a refund and come back later.

To me this is the only way to get around the masks and have onsite transportation (still not MDE)

We will need a lot more test available before that's an option. Right now everybody with symptoms who thinks they might have it can't get tested. No way can test capacity be used for WDW/Universal/etc until that situation has changed.

 

[HuskieJohn]

If this whole deal if they only want 20-30% of hotels full then they can run busses and the monorail without a problem. But there lies the question of is it even cost efficient to open if that’s the case. We have moved our trip out twice and now have August booked at YC. Did it just to go and can walk to DHS or epcot if open. If MK is going to be like described I would prob just skip MK. But again like most here on these boards we go 2-3 times are year so it’s more of a trip just to go if we can. Heck I would be fine not even going to a park and just hit the boardwalk and maybe just go to DHS for dinner or something.

As long as they are losing LESS money than they are now (after Gov handouts and tax write offs) then YES it is.

Losing 30mil a day being closed < losing 10mil a day being partially open

 

[TwoMisfits]

Speaking of opening...how are they going to handle rope drop anyways?

Do we think there is a possibility of timed entries, so when you get your ticket you're assigned an entry time of say 8:30-8:45? And they admit them in groups so as to avoid large gathering?

It's why I imagine car only...they can literally park folks at 10-15 second intervals starting 10 minutes pre-open (if people sit in their cars a long time b/c everyone showed at the same time or tried to come an hour early, so be it) and that alleviates the bottlenecks with no need for people to follow any prior directions (b/c people ALWAYS try to arrive earlier than their time slot). And no need for any more personnel than 1-2 employees to handle.

 

[HuskieJohn]

We will need a lot more test available before that's an option. Right now everybody with symptoms who thinks they might have it can't get tested. No way can test capacity be used for WDW/Universal/etc until that situation has changed.

Right now in IL, if I have symptoms I can go less than 1mi down the road and get a paid test. The issue is waiting for the results. My dad and his wife had to wait 12 days.

The current limit is because the swap test that most sites do go to a lab and the labs are backed up. If WDW had an onsite quick tests then they would not need a lab.

Opening only the DVC rooms up to DVC points members would limit the hotels capacity to the range they are talking about.

Also this is just for check in...not every day.

Everyone keeps saying testing everyone is not possible but when a company is losing $30mil a day they will figure out a way to make it happen.

 

[Krandor]

The current limit is because the swap test that most sites do go to a lab and the labs are backed up. If WDW had an onsite quick tests then they would not need a lab.

Opening only the DVC rooms up to DVC points members would limit the hotels capacity to the range they are talking about.

Also this is just for check in...not every day.

Everyone keeps saying testing everyone is not possible but when a company is losing $30mil a day they will figure out a way to make it happen.

Even the 15 minute tests has supplies that are needed for every test. there are not enough of those right now. I live in Atlanta. We have a spot that does the drive-thru 15 minute tests. Currently they have a capacity of 1000/day. Disney by itself would need numbers WAY higher then that even at reduced attendance. It's not feasible at the present time.

 

[HuskieJohn]

Even the 15 minute tests has supplies that are needed for every test. there are not enough of those right now. I live in Atlanta. We have a spot that does the drive-thru 15 minute tests. Currently they have a capacity of 1000/day. Disney by itself would need numbers WAY higher then that even at reduced attendance. It's not feasible at the present time.

One other downside is that everyone checks in within a few hours...rather than waiting all day for your example.

 

[anthony2k7]

If the parks are resort guests only WDW can test everyone before check in once and leave it at that.

If you do not want to allow WDW to test you then you can get a refund and come back later.

To me this is the only way to get around the masks and have onsite transportation (still not MDE)

Doesn't work like that.

They could have been infected a day or two before travel or even during travel and test negative then develop symptoms (or even be asymptomatic) whilst on the trip.

People will need testing daily.

 

[yankeesfan123]

Be interested to see if the “DVC” plan would include those who rented points. I’d assume so, because it accomplishes the same goal of minimizing capacity, but you never know.

 

[HuskieJohn]

Doesn't work like that.

They could have been infected a day or two before travel or even during travel and test negative then develop symptoms (or even be asymptomatic) whilst on the trip.

People will need testing daily.

I agree that would not work.

Masks it is!

 

[anthony2k7]

As long as they are losing LESS money than they are now (after Gov handouts and tax write offs) then YES it is.

Losing 30mil a day being closed < losing 10mil a day being partially open

But as soon as they open up their outgoings increase dramatically. If their income doesn't increase at least as much as their outgoings then they will be even worse off.

 

[Krandor]

One other downside is that everyone checks in within a few hours...rather than waiting all day for your example.

True. I have a friend that had the test and when they signed up they got a time slot to show up at Ga tech for the tech.

I do agree that testing is the best long-term option but until everybdy who wants to be tested to see if their cough is allergies or covid can get a test diverting test suppliies to disney just isn't happening nor would be good optics either. In fact you could have an issue in that if that person with a cough who wants to know if it's allergies or covid can't get tested at home but knows disney is testing they might book a weekend trip so they CAN be tested which opens up a massive can of worms.

 

[JPM4]

I purchased tickets for my wife and son dates 5-9 through 5/15 and just noticed in Mdx that they have officially changed the dates to expire 12/15. We weren’t going then anyway switched to November for the whole fam but it’s now dated as they said it would be.

 

[mshanson3121]

I wonder if the no buses and no other transport available would delay the reopening of AK?

In the Secure Circuit proposal it says AK and HS will stay closed until phase 2. My guess is, that's why.

I don't think transportation will be eliminated. That would be a turn off to guests and it would encourage off site stays due to the value of Disney resorts being greatly reduced. Furthermore, it could not be long term. Thousands and thousands of people stay in Disney resort rooms. If all of them had to drive, the parking lots at parks and resorts would not be big enough to accommodate the huge influx in rental cars that would be necessary. They would need more trams to transport people from the faraway lots to the park gates. I suppose Disney could do it short term, though I have my doubts, but I don't think it will long term. I think it is far more likely that transportation will be run at reduced capacity. Part of that problem will solve itself: less people will be attending so transportation won't be as full.

Disney isn't going to allow anywhere near enough people on site, that parking will be an issue.

 

[ckohl]

I hate to say it, but if all of these changes go into place, it would keep me from visiting for a while. It is not worth the charge of admission to receive such a watered down Disney experience. I completely understand why Disney needs to put into place a lot of these measures, but with the cost of a family vacation, it just is not worth it to go if you cannot do half of what you intended. Better to just wait. Especially if you are a family who is unable to go regularly and this is your Disney trip for years to come.

 

[HuskieJohn]

But as soon as they open up their outgoings increase dramatically. If their income doesn't increase at least as much as their outgoings then they will be even worse off.

True...that is where they have to have the high priced bean counters figure out what that break even loss point is.

 

[HuskieJohn]

I hate to say it, but if all of these changes go into place, it would keep me from visiting for a while. It is not worth the charge of admission to receive such a watered down Disney experience. I completely understand why Disney needs to put into place a lot of these measures, but with the cost of a family vacation, it just is not worth it to go if you cannot do half of what you intended. Better to just wait. Especially if you are a family who is unable to go regularly and this is your Disney trip for years to come.

And because of smart/able people like you WDW really wont need to work too hard to force the capacity lower.

 

[ugagal07]

Just throwing this out here as a response to the testing requirement as a condition for opening, children.

If children are required to have the swab stuck up their nose daily, how many will cry and work themselves up? Will that and the Florida heat raise their temp ever so slightly setting off fever alarms? Will parents be required to physically restrain their children in order to hopefully enter the happiest place on earth? Will this cause a back up of people and a crowd thus negating the crowd control measures?

I don’t disagree with making modifications, but consider the audience for Disney when making those decisions. I’ve seen the comments about children wearing masks, or rather not wearing them well. I would add this to the list of “what to do with kids?”.

 

[chad_1138]

Just throwing this out here as a response to the testing requirement as a condition for opening, children.

If children are required to have the swab stuck up their nose daily, how many will cry and work themselves up? Will that and the Florida heat raise their temp ever so slightly setting off fever alarms? Will parents be required to physically restrain their children in order to hopefully enter the happiest place on earth? Will this cause a back up of people and a crowd thus negating the crowd control measures?

I don’t disagree with making modifications, but consider the audience for Disney when making those decisions. I’ve seen the comments about children wearing masks, or rather not wearing them well. I would add this to the list of “what to do with kids?”.

I believe that the rapid test only requires a swab from the inside of your mouth.

 

[yulilin3]

I hate to say it, but if all of these changes go into place, it would keep me from visiting for a while. It is not worth the charge of admission to receive such a watered down Disney experience. I completely understand why Disney needs to put into place a lot of these measures, but with the cost of a family vacation, it just is not worth it to go if you cannot do half of what you intended. Better to just wait. Especially if you are a family who is unable to go regularly and this is your Disney trip for years to come.

If you read this and all the other threads on the subject you'll see you're not alone.
Im excited/ curious to see what they come up with, I'll be there day one of reopening, I think each person has to make the best decision for their family, Iger said the goal is to reopen so that guests can feel safe, the issue with that is that each person has a different threshold and ideas on what "safe " means.
Some will be fine with wearing a mask and hand washing, some will want to see serious social distancing, some will want to wait for massive testing capabilities and some will want a proven vaccine
Ive said it before, it won't matter when Disney opens, someone will not agree on the decision , I hope people here on the Dis respect others choices of going or not and don't resort to name calling and cyber shaming

 

[yulilin3]

Just throwing this out here as a response to the testing requirement as a condition for opening, children.

If children are required to have the swab stuck up their nose daily, how many will cry and work themselves up? Will that and the Florida heat raise their temp ever so slightly setting off fever alarms? Will parents be required to physically restrain their children in order to hopefully enter the happiest place on earth? Will this cause a back up of people and a crowd thus negating the crowd control measures?

I don’t disagree with making modifications, but consider the audience for Disney when making those decisions. I’ve seen the comments about children wearing masks, or rather not wearing them well. I would add this to the list of “what to do with kids?”.

All of your points have been mentioned several here and on other threads , i honestly don't think Disney will be doing any testing at all