Rude South Americans

[dominiondad]

Read the title of the tread man. What does it say? "RUDE SOUTH AMERICANS"

Not every same colored t-shirt group of people is from Brazil.

Fine, you want to judge and make over-reaching statements about an entire group of people then go at it. I'm not playing that game because it's wrong to do.

Exactly, he said "RUDE SOUTH AMERICANS", not "ALL SOUTH AMERICANS ARE RUDE". If I start a post about rude drivers, I'm not saying all drivers are rude, I'm calling out a small group of drivers. I think you are way to oversensitive here. Move on.

 

[MET270]

I'm against the haterade the OP was spewing.

I have a serious issue with his daughter being knocked down. The kids who did that should be thrown out or arrested. However, it still doesn't give OP the right to denigrate a whole race/nationality.

I've been to Brazil and have interacted with many BTG at WDW and have only had wonderful experiences. That doesn't mean there aren't some jerks in the group though.

Give it a rest! Your racism card is old and worn out, put it back in the deck and shuffle.

 

[pgiglio67]

Stop trying to explain .I am not even entertaining it anymore

 

[Aliceacc]

ANYWAY OP, I would send a letter and an email to WDW. Be as specific as you can, so they can figure out which CMs were working in that area and get their input on what happened.

If more and more Disney customers complain wtih specific info -- like pictures perhaps-- Disney will have a better idea of the scope of the problem and can determine how best to address it. So the next time a bathroom is blocked by a mob of people, take a picture as you call for security. The next time a mob blocks a parade, take a picture and include it in your email to WDW.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Sorry that happened to you OP. So upsetting.

It doesn't really matter what country the tour groups are from IMO...If Disney wants to court their business, that is their prerogative, but they need to stop the bad behavior when they see it or regular families, especially those with young children, will stop going there at some point.

 

[lugnut33]

Stop trying to explain .I am not even entertaining it anymore

You should be apologizing.

 

[pigletto]

I have to say I am so tired that observation is now classified as racism. Is he not supposed to say what nationality they were? He didn't say "ALL". He said what happened to him specifically and it's horrifying. It's not racist to know or say what nationality someone was. It's fact. Fact was this group was rude and fact was they were South American and fact was his daughter was trampled by them.
Racist would be condemning the entire continent based on the actions of these people. I don't see him saying it. But the fact that these types of interactions and incidents are becoming more commonplace and anybody who dares to say what happened is called a racist is absolutely RIDICULOUS. Had he said that a group of elderly men ran his daughter down with their scooters would you be calling him ageist? No. It's a descriptor. Get over it.

It isn't acceptable, it is annoying, it is dangerous in some situations, and it's frightening for people to allow this type of situation to continue to occur on vacations. It gotten worse and worse and Disney is courting these teen groups and their money without setting out any clear rules of conduct. I don't care what nationality these kids were.. but I DO care that the money they are spending in the parks is more important to Disney than making sure everyone (them included) are safe and having a good time and being courteous. It's appalling.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

The pp is not going to get it until it happens to him or her. I say he or she goes ahead without delay and books a trip to WDW in July, January or February!

We've had it happen, too. In fact, I had a near altercation with two young women in line for Splash Mountain who wanted to cut in front of our family. They were quite aggressive toward me trying to get me to back down. DH has also had issues in the fast pass line. It does make things unpleasant.

A little girl laying on the ground, cut and he father trying to protect her and him then attacked by a bunch of people from Brazil.

Yes Completely unacceptable.

For many of those kids this trip is the only time they can afford to come to the US. And it's something their parents have saved for for a long time.

So now we're supposed to feel sorry for them? It would not be an issue if they were well behaved - but not only are they not well behaved, they're downright hurtful to other guests. I can guarantee if it were your child, or your feeble grandmother in a wheelchair who was trampled, you'd be upset, too, and want to do something to change things so others don't suffer the same problems. Let's be real here.

 

[lugnut33]

The pp is not going to get it until it happens to him or her. I say he or she goes ahead without delay and books a trip to WDW in July, January or February!

We've had it happen, too. In fact, I had a near altercation with two young women in line for Splash Mountain who wanted to cut in front of our family. They were quite aggressive toward me trying to get me to back down. DH has also had issues in the fast pass line. It does make things unpleasant.


Yes Completely unacceptable.


So now we're supposed to feel sorry for them? It would not be an issue if they were well behaved - but not only are they not well behaved, they're downright hurtful to other guests. I can guarantee if it were your child, or your feeble grandmother in a wheelchair who was trampled, you'd be upset, too, and want to do something to change things so others don't suffer the same problems. Let's be real here.

Doing something wrong is unacceptable no matter who does it. I had mentioned my confrontation with some drunk 20 somethings, should I now lump them all together? Would that be fair?

And the comment about their one and only trip was about how the OP said the Brazilians are all part of the super-rich upper 1% of Brazil, which is entirely wrong.

 

[Thumper_Man]

OP targeted Brazilians, which are from South American, part of the Hispanic culture. By doing that he's also implicating those from Argentina, Columbia, and Mexico who also come as groups to WDW. Just because OP specifically mentions a country doesn't make it any less racist.

Still reading the whole thread, but quick questions. Since when did Mexico become a part of South America? Last I checked, it was still part of North America. Did the UN change it and no one told us about it?

 

[lugnut33]

Still reading the whole thread, but quick questions. Since when did Mexico become a part of South America? Last I checked, it was still part of North America. Did the UN change it and no one told us about it?

OK that makes it right then.

That said, you know what I was saying, OP is lumping all of them "animals" together.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Doing something wrong is unacceptable no matter who does it. I had mentioned my confrontation with some drunk 20 somethings, should I now lump them all together? Would that be fair?

Do you not realize these complaints have been ongoing for a very long time? Do you not see that things appear to have now escalated to actually tramping and hurting people - including innocent children? It's not a one-time thing. It's becoming a regular occurrence.

And the comment about their one and only trip was about how the OP said the Brazilians are all part of the super-rich upper 1% of Brazil, which is entirely wrong.

How do you know?

 

[DizCaptain]

OK that makes it right then.

That said, you know what I was saying, OP is lumping all of them "animals" together.

Uh... I'm pretty sure OP was describing those who, essentially, assaulted their child as "animals". Not South Americans.... Let me be clear. Trouble makers in OP's story = "animals". South Americans = South Americans. Now if a trouble maker is South American, then they may be labeled an "animal". An "animal" of South American descent.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

That said, you know what I was saying, OP is lumping all of them "animals" together.

You are talking to a dad who had a traumatic experience. Give him a break. You've said what you've had to say; now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Really. Have some sensitivity toward this family, please. Perhaps his language was strong. Most of ours would be also, if this happened to us. If you're the exception, then good for you.

 

[PetuniaAnn]

It seems that all large groups should have to have better supervision, which to me would include having responsible tour guides. Odds are that the guides are encouraging the behavior to some extent. When I went to Disney on band trips in high school, we broke up into smaller groups. I can guarantee that we would have all been on a bus headed home if we caused a scene at all. I have been at Disney in January and encountered large groups following the guides with the flags and they were overwhelming to me, as an adult. Clearly Disney needs to address this issue and come up with a solution that makes the parks welcoming to everyone visiting. Perhaps Disney needs to to require that ALL large groups retain the services of official Disney guides while on property, with the Disney guides being in charge of the tour company's guide. There are cast members that speak a multitude of different languages, so the language barriers would not be a concern. The parks need to be fun and safe for all of those visiting, and line etiquette should be enforced. I just hope no one gets seriously hurt before something like this happens.

 

[lugnut33]

You are talking to a dad who had a traumatic experience. Give him a break. You've said what you've had to say; now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Really. Have some sensitivity toward this family, please. Perhaps his language was strong. Most of ours would be also, if this happened to us. If you're the exception, then good for you.

I have not once given him grief for what happened to him or his daughter. I've said it was terrible and those kids should have been reprimanded, tossed, or even arrested. I understand how traumatic it probably was (and I'm not discounting that OP could be a troll since this was his first post), but I'm not going to excuse him for his racism.

What I see here is a bunch of people playing apologist for the OP and sugar coating what was said.

 

[pgiglio67]

You should be apologizing.

"Do you sing "If I only had a brain" on a daily BASIS"

 

[Our3ps]

Anyone know when in July these groups stop coming? I read on the Poly thread that they were sprawled out in the hallways blocking the doorways and screaming and yelling at all hours of the night. I heard security was called numerous times and nothing was done. Totally unacceptable. Some of these stories sound nightmarish. Very sorry to the OP, I wouldn't know what to do if I were in your position. Please write to Disney, something must be done about these large groups behaviors, regardless of their origin!

 

[cbonewjersey]

The best part is Mexico isn't even in S.America. And BTW you cannot compare the cultures of Argentina, Brazil and Mexico. Arg and Mex are like night and day different from Brazil. I've been to all 3 many times on business.

 

[lugnut33]

The best part is Mexico isn't even in S.America. And BTW you cannot compare the cultures of Argentina, Brazil and Mexico. Arg and Mex are like night and day different from Brazil. I've been to all 3 many times on business.

You completely missed the point being made.