ROFR Thread April to June 2025 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[VGCgroupie]

He has a friend in you!

No not him lol

 

[hokiekkghl]

I just caught up on a few weeks of this thread and can I mention something that really annoyed me seeing some of the BLT prices...

First off I LOVE seeing the board members here get the lowest prices possible. The better the price the more excited we all get. However what annoys me is that during January, February and March I was putting in 115 and 120 offers regularly on BLTs and some of the brokers went so far as to CALL me on my phone (while I was at Disney no less!) to see if I was "for real" or just a joker. I will say Fidelity is the only one that has never put in their 2 cents about any of my offers.

So seeing these BLT prices actually are vindicating and I hope one of them was with the broker that called me on my phone to basically say don't call us we'll call you! (I'm serious I was on the Friendship boat back from HS and she wanted to see if I was "one of those" bidders. I'm like...IM AT DISNEY NOW! YES IM SERIOUS!)

Keep trying! I was keeping an eye on BLT prices to be informed for when we bought next year. I like you kept seeing the prices rise to more than we were willing to pay and not much give when people offered less. We figured it may be even more than a year for the prices get back down to what we were willing to pay.
We got really lucky on ours. I went in full price bc it was a too good to be true price so I figured what's the loss and there was no way we'd get it.....and we got it! Well at least as long as the mouse doesn't take it in ROFR!
It was with Fidelity so I knew there was no judgement or haggling. We'd either get a your offer was accepted or we went with someone else. There wasn't even an ask from them for a best and final offer to drive the price up. It was are you good with the full price, pro-rated dues, and fee then a congratulations you got the contract as soon as I said we were OK with our initial offer.

 

[Girlstar30]

And I feel that I could've gotten a slightly better one at SSR. Ain't it weird that even if you get one better than 90% of the contracts out there you're still sad that you didn't bag the unicorn

Yes we greedy haha

 

[Girlstar30]

I've had some chastise me over the years via email. That I've come to expect. Once or twice the board sponsor did call but with a more "you must be new to this let me explain how making an offer on contracts works" tone. At which point I tell them I'm a bottom fisher and I leave my hook low to see if I can catch the big one...that I know full well how this works.

But yeah this one took me off guard. Was very aggressive in tone and even when I convinced her I was for real she basically told me let's make a deal where I don't send her any more offers and she'll call me if she sees something in my range. I was like ok sure fine...and so I mostly deal with Fidelity as that's who has always come through for me with the best prices and no guilty feeling. And trust me they've screwed up and annoyed me a few times but I still would rather deal with that anyday over being called on vacation to be told off while USING DVC points that I bought LOWER than going rate because that DOES happen! Sorry for the caps lol but I was taken aback that day and it kinda just resurfaced seeing the BLTs lower than what I was chastised for! Rant over back to your regularly scheduled ROFRing!

Don't worry they did it to me too

 

[Girlstar30]

haha perfect timing for my rant! lol Congrats!

nope..he has done that for sure but no this was a different broker and a different lady. And no not the one who everyone thinks it is...she's actually been much better lately...but I still avoid her if I can.

Im going to need a name

 

[ShaneDJ]

I was keeping an eye on BLT prices to be informed for when we bought next year.

We got really lucky on ours. I went in full price bc it was a too good to be true price so I figured what's the loss and there was no way we'd get it.....and we got it!

So you are the $105/pp BLT person? Nice!

Don't know if @Jimmy Geppetto could do much better.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Keep trying! I was keeping an eye on BLT prices to be informed for when we bought next year. I like you kept seeing the prices rise to more than we were willing to pay and not much give when people offered less. We figured it may be even more than a year for the prices get back down to what we were willing to pay.
We got really lucky on ours. I went in full price bc it was a too good to be true price so I figured what's the loss and there was no way we'd get it.....and we got it! Well at least as long as the mouse doesn't take it in ROFR!
It was with Fidelity so I knew there was no judgement or haggling. We'd either get a your offer was accepted or we went with someone else. There wasn't even an ask from them for a best and final offer to drive the price up. It was are you good with the full price, pro-rated dues, and fee then a congratulations you got the contract as soon as I said we were OK with our initial offer.

Yup that's why all my contracts have been with them...they fit my style of purchasing. Others may feel more comfortable with other brokers...and by the way even though I won't name names because that's just not right in my opinion, I will say there have been many brokers that have been very conversational through email mostly in a very positive way. In fact I'd go as far as to say a majority of DVC brokers both big and small are very happy to work with the likes of us "boardies". Why anyone would do the opposite I have no idea. Why be confrontational with any potential customer. It's not like I leave notes in my offers saying HOW DARE YOU NOT ACCEPT MY OFFER THAT"S 20% LOWER THAN ASKING DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM!? Literally just send an email saying yup got your offer will contact you if it goes through.

 

[MICKIMINI]

I don't feel like starting a thread for this question and I figure some here will know the answer.

If you have a delayed closing....when exactly do you wire your money over? Not until the actual closing? Or is that something you do sooner?

I am in a delayed closing now and have done them before. You go through exactly the same process as non delayed closings. WAIT until you are notified that the seller has signed, past the time of the delayed date before you send your money. I once had a seller dilly dally for weeks (2 contracts from same seller), and even go past the drop dead date when the broker had our final payment. I threatened to kill the deal (without penalty) and the seller signed. Since then, I wait for confirmation of the seller having finalized their obligation and then I immediately finalize mine and pay.

A side note, as I have received "bonus" points on delayed closings before. Sometimes the seller does not take the vacation or the renter cancels and the points end up with the buyer. I have this funny feeling I may see extra points with my current ROFR contract...fingers crossed!

 

[Chili327]

I've had some chastise me over the years via email. That I've come to expect. Once or twice the board sponsor did call but with a more "you must be new to this let me explain how making an offer on contracts works" tone. At which point I tell them I'm a bottom fisher and I leave my hook low to see if I can catch the big one...that I know full well how this works.

But yeah this one took me off guard. Was very aggressive in tone and even when I convinced her I was for real she basically told me let's make a deal where I don't send her any more offers and she'll call me if she sees something in my range. I was like ok sure fine...and so I mostly deal with Fidelity as that's who has always come through for me with the best prices and no guilty feeling. And trust me they've screwed up and annoyed me a few times but I still would rather deal with that anyday over being called on vacation to be told off while USING DVC points that I bought LOWER than going rate because that DOES happen! Sorry for the caps lol but I was taken aback that day and it kinda just resurfaced seeing the BLTs lower than what I was chastised for! Rant over back to your regularly scheduled ROFRing!

Keep trying! I was keeping an eye on BLT prices to be informed for when we bought next year. I like you kept seeing the prices rise to more than we were willing to pay and not much give when people offered less. We figured it may be even more than a year for the prices get back down to what we were willing to pay.
We got really lucky on ours. I went in full price bc it was a too good to be true price so I figured what's the loss and there was no way we'd get it.....and we got it! Well at least as long as the mouse doesn't take it in ROFR!
It was with Fidelity so I knew there was no judgement or haggling. We'd either get a your offer was accepted or we went with someone else. There wasn't even an ask from them for a best and final offer to drive the price up. It was are you good with the full price, pro-rated dues, and fee then a congratulations you got the contract as soon as I said we were OK with our initial offer.

Fidelity really is one of the better/easier to deal with when buying!
Funny, I put some contracts up for sale recently and called Disney to ask some questions about selling (w/trips booked) and they referred me to Fidelity.

 

[Babygusgus]

Babygusgus---$70-$25335-350-AUL-Jun-0/24, 56/25, 350/26, 350/27-Seller pays MF ‘25- sent 5/23

 

[jolynne28]

Babygusgus---$70-$25335-350-AUL-Jun-0/24, 56/25, 350/26, 350/27-Seller pays MF ‘25- sent 5/23

This is the lowest AUL I've seen, congrats! My eyes popped out of my head a little when I saw your post.

 

[darkconz]

Babygusgus---$70-$25335-350-AUL-Jun-0/24, 56/25, 350/26, 350/27-Seller pays MF ‘25- sent 5/23

Wow, that must be lowest i've seen! Gratz

 

[AstroBlasters]

Babygusgus---$70-$25335-350-AUL-Jun-0/24, 56/25, 350/26, 350/27-Seller pays MF ‘25- sent 5/23

This is why I will rent my Aulani points instead of ever selling them…. selling just makes no sense when you can rent easily for $18pp+

 

[Tatebeck]

This is why I will rent my Aulani points instead of ever selling them…. selling just makes no sense when you can rent easily

Are... you THE DVC? lol. That seems identical to their plan

 

[AstroBlasters]

Are... you THE DVC? lol. That seems identical to their plan

DVC gets way more than $18pp

 

[Tatebeck]

DVC gets way more than $18pp

Definitely. That's why that was the only part of the quote I left out

Just meant that they are content to rent and never sell the rest of those points

 

[Brian Noble]

And you would probably not sell them for $70.

However, for an unsubsidized contract, that's probably not too for off from the "willing to sell it" price. If the current salvage value of a point is $70, I'm making about 11.25% pretax at $18. That's getting pretty close to the long-term pre-tax return in the equities market.

The math is very different for a subsidized contract.

 

[Babygusgus]

This is the lowest AUL I've seen, congrats! My eyes popped out of my head a little when I saw your post.

Thank you!! I feel super lucky!

 

[AstroBlasters]

And you would probably not sell them for $70.

However, for an unsubsidized contract, that's probably not too for off from the "willing to sell it" price. If the current salvage value of a point is $70, I'm making about 11.25% pretax at $18. That's getting pretty close to the long-term pre-tax return in the equities market.

The math is very different for a subsidized contract.

Every seller has their own number, but I would not be willing to sell my unsubsidized Aulani for less than $90pp.

@$70 and then 9.25% commission, $150 estoppel, and 2025 dues…. you are walking away with less than $60pp.

When I see prices like this I am always afraid that the seller is about to go into foreclosure…. since I had that happen to me once as a buyer in 2022. It was a fully loaded contract with previous year banked points for $85pp…. I got my price…. and then 2-3 months later it turned out it was all a waste of time. Disney wouldn’t let them sell it without catching up on their past due dues and they didn’t have the funds to do it.