ROFR Thread April to June 2023 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[MommyTo5]

I put out 6 offers

All of them had double points and were either 150/300 or 160/320.

There were recent sales at 130 and 135 but since I wanted BLT and hoped to use it for an August trip I bid 137.

I was ignored on 5 offers and scolded on 1. I moved on to SSR and used those points to book an August trip to BLT.

We made a couple (higher price per point) BLT offers that didn’t work out during the week leading up to this. I was really hoping that making an offer on both contracts would give us a slight advantage, but extremely surprised when the sellers accepted the $125 pp offers immediately with no counter. We were just about ready to move on to SSR!

 

[tom1944]

BLT recorded deeds April 1-8

90 points $155

100 points $120, 145, 156,169

125 points $160

130 points $165, 165 (same seller 2 different buyers)

160 points $139, 145, 148

187 points $153

230 points $135

300 points $145

320 points $142

375 points $136

 

[Sandisw]

BLT recorded deeds April 1-8

90 points $155

100 points $120, 145, 156,169

125 points $160

130 points $165, 165 (same seller 2 different buyers)

160 points $139, 145, 148

187 points $153

230 points $135

300 points $145

320 points $142

375 points $136

Great info…and seems like we are still in a period where deeds recorded were sold for a decent price.

 

[whitneyblair]

whitneyblair---$135-$29229-200-BLT-Aug-0/21, 0/22, 300/23, 200/24- sent 4/6

 

[Chili327]

Is banking allowed that final year, meaning you would have until November 30, 2043 to use the points?

I would guess no. because banking into a year that doesn't exist on the contract doesn't seem possible, plus 2043 would probably start a whole new contract... after a major refurb

Great info…and seems like we are still in a period where deeds recorded were sold for a decent price.

Is that "proof" of DisBoard prices.??

 

[Sandisw]

Another question-
Let’s say you have a December UY. The last allotment comes on December 1, 2041. You would have until November 30, 2042 to spend the points. Is banking allowed that final year, meaning you would have until November 30, 2043 to use the points?

No banking because the DVC resorts ceases to exist on January 31st, 2042 and therefore, your ownership is over.

None of us know if DVD plans to do anything about those last years to help as many owners use up those points n

 

[buffalobasingal]

BLT recorded deeds April 1-8

90 points $155

100 points $120, 145, 156,169

125 points $160

130 points $165, 165 (same seller 2 different buyers)

160 points $139, 145, 148

187 points $153

230 points $135

300 points $145

320 points $142

375 points $136

Thanks for the info! Do you have info on BCV and AKV?

 

[tom1944]

Great info…and seems like we are still in a period where deeds recorded were sold for a decent price.

I have always loved data. That is one of the fun parts of buying resale- tracking the data to arrive at a number you are satisfied with.

Strange thing is now I am leaning to using my status as a DVC owner to purchase a small contract direct especially if Poly2 is not part of Poly 1.

If it is I am thinking of buying Riviera.

Thanks for the info! Do you have info on BCV and AKV?

I have AKV. I will post it after Ted Lasso is over

 

[tom1944]

AKV recorded deeds April 1-8, 2023

100 points $143,123,121,140,120,

123 points $110

125 points $114

140 points $110

160 points $117, 108, 95, 113,95, 123

200 points $112

300 points $103

 

[tom1944]

Beach Club recorded deeds April 1-8, 2023

100 points $117.50

150 points $120

200 points $120 2 sales same price- different buyer and seller and a third sale at $135

 

[Pens Fan]

@tom1944 has been inspiring me to spend a little time snooping around the comptroller's site as well. I'm primarily interested in CCV, so that's all I have data for. However, here are the resale prices I've found based on the dates the deeds were recorded and ignoring foreclosures:

March

50 points - $150, $160, $181

75 points - $148, $160 (x3), $161

80 points - $163

90 points - $154

100 points - $137, $145, $148, $155, $157, $158 (x2), $159 (x2), $161

110 points - $154

120 points - $155

150 points - $134, $135, $155, $160, $162, $168

155 points - $149

160 points - $155

175 points - $130, $155, $163

190 points - $139

200 points - $145, $148, $158, $165

250 points - $148, $153

300 points - $153

900 points - $140

April to Date:

100 points - $145, $158, $160

120 points - $143

125 points - $135

150 points - $107 (yep - that is not a typo), $148

190 points - $165

200 points - $145


Also of interest, in that same timeframe I found 17 contracts acquired by DVD ranging in price from $117 per point to $137. Again, I ignored foreclosures. I assume some of these are just older ROFR's that are still working their way through the system - delayed closings and what not. But they are still acquiring points, albeit very slowly.

I don't want to derail this thread, so @Sandisw if there is a better place for this post, feel free to move it and thanks!

 

[disney-inspired]

Yeah, Dec UY people would be screwed. They only get 2 months to use their points. December 2041 availability will probably be zero to none! But it’s still too far away for anyone to worry about. Even for Disney.

I guess I'll be borrowing my Dec 2041 points earlier for a big trip the year before

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

@tom1944 has been inspiring me to spend a little time snooping around the comptroller's site as well. I'm primarily interested in CCV, so that's all I have data for. However, here are the resale prices I've found based on the dates the deeds were recorded and ignoring foreclosures:

March

50 points - $150, $160, $181

75 points - $148, $160 (x3), $161

80 points - $163

90 points - $154

100 points - $137, $145, $148, $155, $157, $158 (x2), $159 (x2), $161

110 points - $154

120 points - $155

150 points - $134, $135, $155, $160, $162, $168

155 points - $149

160 points - $155

175 points - $130, $155, $163

190 points - $139

200 points - $145, $148, $158, $165

250 points - $148, $153

300 points - $153

900 points - $140

April to Date:

100 points - $145, $158, $160

120 points - $143

125 points - $135

150 points - $107 (yep - that is not a typo), $148

190 points - $165

200 points - $145


Also of interest, in that same timeframe I found 17 contracts acquired by DVD ranging in price from $117 per point to $137. Again, I ignored foreclosures. I assume some of these are just older ROFR's that are still working their way through the system - delayed closings and what not. But they are still acquiring points, albeit very slowly.

I don't want to derail this thread, so @Sandisw if there is a better place for this post, feel free to move it and thanks!

What specifically did you do to avoid foreclosures? Disney reacquires points via direct foreclosures (for unpaid dues) but also deed in leiu, surrenders, and auctions (for unpaid loans or personal bankruptcies). Are you catching all 4 types?

 

[Pens Fan]

What specifically did you do to avoid foreclosures? Disney reacquires points via direct foreclosures (for unpaid dues) but also deed in leiu, surrenders, and auctions (for unpaid loans or personal bankruptcies). Are you catching all 4 types?

Basically if the deed mentioned foreclosure in any fashion, I ignored it. Hopefully that was correct. I'm new at this!

 

[tom1944]

What specifically did you do to avoid foreclosures? Disney reacquires points via direct foreclosures (for unpaid dues) but also deed in leiu, surrenders, and auctions (for unpaid loans or personal bankruptcies). Are you catching all 4 types?

I just skip any with the deed tax at 70 cents


I also do not check any when Disney is the seller. The resorts I checked never showed Disney as the purchaser since they did not ROFR any.

 

[Sandisw]

@tom1944 has been inspiring me to spend a little time snooping around the comptroller's site as well. I'm primarily interested in CCV, so that's all I have data for. However, here are the resale prices I've found based on the dates the deeds were recorded and ignoring foreclosures:

March

50 points - $150, $160, $181

75 points - $148, $160 (x3), $161

80 points - $163

90 points - $154

100 points - $137, $145, $148, $155, $157, $158 (x2), $159 (x2), $161

110 points - $154

120 points - $155

150 points - $134, $135, $155, $160, $162, $168

155 points - $149

160 points - $155

175 points - $130, $155, $163

190 points - $139

200 points - $145, $148, $158, $165

250 points - $148, $153

300 points - $153

900 points - $140

April to Date:

100 points - $145, $158, $160

120 points - $143

125 points - $135

150 points - $107 (yep - that is not a typo), $148

190 points - $165

200 points - $145


Also of interest, in that same timeframe I found 17 contracts acquired by DVD ranging in price from $117 per point to $137. Again, I ignored foreclosures. I assume some of these are just older ROFR's that are still working their way through the system - delayed closings and what not. But they are still acquiring points, albeit very slowly.

I don't want to derail this thread, so @Sandisw if there is a better place for this post, feel free to move it and thanks!

I think this thread is fine for this since it’s similar data that others are posting..sale prices…

 

[LKKNZ]

Quick question, our agent said our contract was sent to RoFr on March 27. However, we didn’t get charged our deposit by the title company (Mason) until April 6. Is this normal? Or is it possible our contract wasn’t sent when they claim it was? Thanks for any insights.

We are working with First American. But, was faced with the same situation. The broker sent the contract to ROFR because the title company had said they were processing the deposit that day. It didn’t actually get pulled for a few days.

 

[Pens Fan]

I just skip any with the deed tax at 70 cents


I also do not check any when Disney is the seller. The resorts I checked never showed Disney as the purchaser since they did not ROFR any.

Thanks! That's a good point. Now that you mention it, all of those that mentioned foreclosure did have the $.070 tax. There were also a few that had that but didn't appear to be foreclosures. They seemed to be adding someone onto or changing the name on a deed and I ignored those as well.

 

[tom1944]

Thanks! That's a good point. Now that you mention it, all of those that mentioned foreclosure did have the $.070 tax. There were also a few that had that but didn't appear to be foreclosures. They seemed to be adding someone onto or changing the name on a deed and I ignored those as well.

That also happens when it is a transfer to family members or removing a spouse in a divorce or death.

 

[varns529]

Beach Club recorded deeds April 1-8, 2023

100 points $117.50

150 points $120

200 points $120 2 sales same price- different buyer and seller and a third sale at $135

BWV next???