ROFR Thread April to June 2023 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Cyberc1978]

LOL I've been trying for about 5 weeks on 150-175 point SSR contracts. Maybe I'm on the wrong sites haha

I found mine on fidelity and they were also the only ones which gave me counter offers which was remotely in the ball park. Mine was originally listed for $120 and I offered $75 and a little forth and back and we ended on $81.

 

[Cyberc1978]

One of the agents from the board sponsor was on a show talking about unrealistic offers. They said they were receiving a bunch of low offers and that those putting out those offers justified them because of other low offers getting accepted and how it was not the norm and are unicorn deals. Sounded like she calling out this thread lol.

Well that’s one way to try and justify the higher prices and completely disregard the current financial situation.

Also lower prices cuts directly into their commission.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

One of the agents from the board sponsor was on a show talking about unrealistic offers. They said they were receiving a bunch of low offers and that those putting out those offers justified them because of other low offers getting accepted and how it was not the norm and are unicorn deals. Sounded like she calling out this thread lol.

Saw that episode too. She was scolding all of us on this thread, telling us we’re living in some fantasy land

 

[Cyberc1978]

Congrats! It's been about a week for us. Waiting for one right now with our re-counter!

Hope they accept.

 

[erinchristine318]

One of the agents from the board sponsor was on a show talking about unrealistic offers. They said they were receiving a bunch of low offers and that those putting out those offers justified them because of other low offers getting accepted and how it was not the norm and are unicorn deals. Sounded like she calling out this thread lol.

I can see why that would frustrate them, but at the same time, some of us aren’t in a huge rush and are willing to wait to see if that unicorn deal pops up at some point. We have a pretty strict budget we’re trying to stay within so if we can work a deal that fits in that budget, great. If not, we’ll wait and keep trying.

 

[MsChristy12]

Saw that episode too. She was scolding all of us on this thread, telling us we’re living in some fantasy land

But don't you forget....DREAMS do come true!! Just sayin....

 

[Cyberc1978]

Saw that episode too. She was scolding all of us on this thread, telling us we’re living in some fantasy land

Wonder who is living in that fantasy land

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Wonder who is living in that fantasy land

I don’t blame them though. Vloggers and influencers are beholden to sponsors who pay their bills. It’s in their best interest for the market to stay high.

 

[MsChristy12]

Hope they accept.

I have a feeling already they will re-counter. Originally they didn't even re-counter, probably insulted by the offer. But the agent said she's happy to send it again if we want to bring it up a little, so we did. That's the game we have to willing to play if we want a deal. We could have gotten one accepted already yesterday and the counter wasn't horrible, but the points are stripped so we didn't think it was worth it.

 

[ClaraOswald]

Now its my turn

Cyberc1978---$81-$15006-160-SSR-Jun-0/22, 272/23, 160/24- sent 4/5

Dang!! I wish I was in a place to buy some SSR points. Nice!

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

One of the agents from the board sponsor was on a show talking about unrealistic offers. They said they were receiving a bunch of low offers and that those putting out those offers justified them because of other low offers getting accepted and how it was not the norm and are unicorn deals. Sounded like she calling out this thread lol.

That’s all well and good but this is literally how the market moves when there’s way more sellers than buyers. Many buyers make near asking offers and many sellers get lucky. And that’s why the mentality of the agents can be so hard to change.

But many sellers don’t get bites at anything close to asking in a market like this, that’s why hundreds of contracts have been sitting for 8+ months.

The DVCRM agents I dealt with (Jodi and Sue) were professional and gave me no reason to doubt they presented my lowball offers. One DVCRM seller countered about halfway between their ridiculously high ask and my very low offer and the other countered at list. My Fidelity, Dvcstore.com and other sellers gave more realistic counters and I wound up (unsurprisingly) with a fidelity seller.

 

[AstroBlasters]

One of the agents from the board sponsor was on a show talking about unrealistic offers. They said they were receiving a bunch of low offers and that those putting out those offers justified them because of other low offers getting accepted and how it was not the norm and are unicorn deals. Sounded like she calling out this thread lol.

I just watched that video on YouTube. I will say that she has always been incredibly professional and courteous when I have communicated with her, but she was 100% referring to this thread.

You could rename this thread the “DVC price discovery” thread.

 

[Matty B13]

I think most brokers are still thinking that the 2022 prices were "normal" price increases from 2021 just like real estate pricing of homes. I think they are all in for a shock by the end of 2023 where prices fall too, all the layoffs are just starting and might accelerate by this summer causing some much needed corrections.

 

[MsChristy12]

Dang!! I wish I was in a place to buy some SSR points. Nice!

Me tooo...I wish I was just looking for SAP!!

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

I think most brokers are still thinking that the 2022 prices were "normal" price increases from 2021 just like real estate pricing of homes. I think they are all in for a shock by the end of 2023 where prices fall too, all the layoffs are just starting and might accelerate by this summer causing some much needed corrections.

I don’t really think prices will fall much more but if you’re right, I will almost certainly add on.

Which is how supply and demand curves work!

Someone should tell the agent that.

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

Thanks for sharing your experience!


I don't understand...I mean unless you really got nothing else better to do but to make up the entire thing. People are just jealous, but hey guess what you're the one who scored the deal and going to enjoy them!


The MFs alone...ooff....Even if you rent them out...so much work....


Good deal!! Congrats!!


Obviously I also have been putting offers on all the wrong listings!!! Congrats!!! Hope multiple were popped for celebration!
Can you use your Sorcery and pick out contracts for all of us to put offers on??! LOL!

Champagne stays on ice until it passes.

 

[Chili327]

I don’t blame them though. Vloggers and influencers are beholden to sponsors who pay their bills. It’s in their best interest for the market to stay high.

Yea, similarly to censored sites on here? (maybe, maybe not)

I just watched that video on YouTube. I will say that she has always been incredibly professional and courteous when I have communicated with her, but she was 100% referring to this thread.

She almost looked a little "hot under the collar" for a few minutes. lol

 

[BROWNSPHAN]

LOL I've been trying for about 5 weeks on 150-175 point SSR contracts. Maybe I'm on the wrong sites haha

Same! Hopefully we aren't bidding against each other

Every time we bid, its either too low & the selling doesn't want to counter or there are a few offers & we have to go higher to have a shot!

 

[BreakItYourself]

Same! Hopefully we aren't bidding against each other

Every time we bid, its either too low & the selling doesn't want to counter or there are a few offers & we have to go higher to have a shot!

haha it's likely. Although, most owners aren't even responding to my $75 offers. The lowest counter I've gotten so far is $100. I countered and they walked. I'll keep pressing on lol I'm in no rush.

 

[BROWNSPHAN]

haha it's likely. Although, most owners aren't even responding to my $75 offers. The lowest counter I've gotten so far is $100. I countered and they walked. I'll keep pressing on lol I'm in no rush.

I agree! The contracts we have bid on have double points & we offered low 90s, but the sellers still want well over $115 or just don't respond.

I wonder if we should start looking at stripped contracts