ROFR Thread April to June 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Morganjacar]

A broker claimed that here some buyers write down lower price and some sellers do vice versa, so don't 100% trust the data in disboards. Why would users do that? For swag? I can't find the reason. My offer was rejected so I just gently (IMO) said the price was higher than what I saw in disboards, so I would look for others. Did I offend the agent? Feel weird either ways.

A broker claimed the same thing to me, she was very rude, she then tried to tell me that VGF2 was selling for $250 pp direct lol

When I got the deal I did for my VGF resale I wanted to send her a copy of my contract!

Remember these brokers do want to sell the contracts but their loyalty is to the seller, and the more they sell it for the higher their commission.

I submitted like 10 offers for VGF before a seller accepted. I knew what I wanted to spend and stuck to it. Some brokers were nice and submitted the offer without sharing their dismay, others were quite vocal and I'm not even sure they submitted the offer.

 

[RamblinWreck]

A broker claimed the same thing to me, she was very rude, she then tried to tell me that VGF2 was selling for $250 pp direct lol

When I got the deal I did for my VGF resale I wanted to send her a copy of my contract!

Remember these brokers do want to sell the contracts but their loyalty is to the seller, and the more they sell it for the higher their commission.

I submitted like 10 offers for VGF before a seller accepted. I knew what I wanted to spend and stuck to it. Some brokers were nice and submitted the offer without sharing their dismay, others were quite vocal and I'm not even sure they submitted the offer.

I have experience with a several of the people at dvcresalemarket

I won't disparage those I had bad experiences with by name, but there are 2 that I definitely don't trust. One was when I was buying, and one was when I was selling.


By far the best experience I had was with Marissa.

Not one peep from her about my lowball offer. Just took it to the sellers, and promptly came back with a counter offer. Then I submitted a new offer, and she quickly came back telling me that they had accepted.

No suggestions on what I should do, no warnings about how much other people are paying, or anything like that. Just professional all the way and took care of everything quickly.

So from my experience at least, if you want to request someone at dvcresalemarket then I would recommend Marissa for sure!

 

[rollnstns]

Well a little late as I was out on a non-Disney vacation.

Let it be known.... The Old Key West Massacre continues!

Rollnstns---$129-$13579-100-OKW(E)-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 3/18, taken 4/28

But, I jumped back in the game immediately.

Rollnstns---$167-$21644-125-PVB-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 125/23, 125/24- sent 5/1

 

[TotallyMinnie83]

A broker claimed the same thing to me, she was very rude, she then tried to tell me that VGF2 was selling for $250 pp direct lol

When I got the deal I did for my VGF resale I wanted to send her a copy of my contract!

Remember these brokers do want to sell the contracts but their loyalty is to the seller, and the more they sell it for the higher their commission.

I submitted like 10 offers for VGF before a seller accepted. I knew what I wanted to spend and stuck to it. Some brokers were nice and submitted the offer without sharing their dismay, others were quite vocal and I'm not even sure they submitted the offer.

I can't believe she would misquote the direct price when you can check that out for yourself! Yikes. I feel like I got lucky with my VGC and AUL contracts. I made offers via the website. The VGC sellers countered, then I made another offer, and they took it. AUL just took my offer. I didn't have any discussions with the brokers. I definitely think Disboards helped me come up with the price range I wanted to be at. And it is so helpful to see the submit date of the contracts that Disney is either passing or taking. It helped manage expectations. I do think most people are being honest. I mean, why lie to a bunch of strangers when it's supposed to be a tool to help one another.

 

[Ruttangel]

As for great deals
The pandemic ones were so easy to get in the $80s for AUL, $90s for AKV/SSR/OKW/BRV, $100 BWV and even BLT etc....I just wish I had bought more then

 

[KPeterso]

Kpeterso---$147-$7981-50-AKV-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 25/23, 50/24-Delayed close 10/31- sent 4/13, passed 5/5

split dues for the points used.
Very excited to have this pass with the current AKV bloodbath. I was not too concerned based on the price but you never really know with the rofr monkey!

kristin

 

[Ginamarie]

Got some PIXIE DUST! My 50 pt April HH closed on 4/2/22. I patiently waited for points. They posted today. There was a manual override- 25 extra points able to be banked by November. GREAT $75 ppt purchase for an every other year vacation at HH.

So jealous! They bought back my HHI contract and I’m still looking for the perfect replacement.

 

[Royal Consort]

And it is so helpful to see the submit date of the contracts that Disney is either passing or taking. It helped manage expectations. I do think most people are being honest. I mean, why lie to a bunch of strangers when it's supposed to be a tool to help one another.

The ROFR thread has utility. However, if you look at the average price on the board sponsor's site and compare it to average ROFR thread prices you see a discrepancy. The ROFR thread is self-selecting and skewed for this reasoning. It's a guide but not a complete picture of what everybody is paying. Comments by other posters on 'good deals' act as a positive reinforcer likely skewing reported prices here.

I find this thread helpful as I do the board sponsor's average price blog.

 

[amcurtis1]

amcurtis1---$170-$20239-110-BLT-Feb-0/21, 215/22, 110/23, 110/24- sent 4/18

 

[keirabella2012]

Mine was taken on March 10th and my close date is tomorrow. Absolutely nothing from Disney yet. Broker is telling me Disney is running behind. Honestly very disappointed in both Disney and honestly the board sponsor who has basically been 100% hands off since Disney took it in ROFR.

Did you hear anything today?

 

[Morganjacar]

The ROFR thread has utility. However, if you look at the average price on the board sponsor's site and compare it to average ROFR thread prices you see a discrepancy. The ROFR thread is self-selecting and skewed for this reasoning. It's a guide but not a complete picture of what everybody is paying. Comments by other posters on 'good deals' act as a positive reinforcer likely skewing reported prices here.

I find this thread helpful as I do the board sponsor's average price blog.

I've found that the board sponsors contract prices start higher though. Also, don't you think there's a motive for them releasing their OWN data every month?

 

[Mexacajun]

Do your own research and bid what you are comfortable paying. Problem solved.

 

[Royal Consort]

I've found that the board sponsors contract prices start higher though. Also, don't you think there's a motive for them releasing their OWN data every month?

Absolutely.

 

[Paul Stupin]

I’m not sure that anyone is making up numbers but it’s probably true that those with the perceived best deals are more likely to post them. The prices are often much lower than what you see in published average sales.

I also think that some buyers who get particularly low priced deals have a ton of DVC experience, and have spent months having multiple contracts taken before a lowball contract passes. Not all, but some. It takes a lot of effort and patience and of course is an effective strategy. But though the price per point is low, there’s a percentage of these buyers who also pay a very high price in time, inconvenience, effort, lost opportunity cost of being able to use the points, and a great deal of resale and ROFR frustration.

Maybe I’m just jealous that I haven’t received as many of these great deals that I‘ve read about here, aside from some random good luck here and there. All I’m saying is that there is sometimes a substantial hidden cost in these lowball contracts that wind up passing.

 

[sndral]

A broker claimed that here some buyers write down lower price and some sellers do vice versa, so don't 100% trust the data in disboards. Why would users do that? For swag? I can't find the reason. My offer was rejected so I just gently (IMO) said the price was higher than what I saw in disboards, so I would look for others. Did I offend the agent? Feel weird either ways.

I wouldn’t worry about offending the broker/agent, she’s the salesperson her job is to sell that contract, but not, IMO by trying to guilt you into spending more than you want.

I think I may have put in lower bids with the same broker. I was told she knows that some of these posts aren’t entirely truthful as she recognized the contract, and it didn’t match up with the reality.

Just based on human nature that some people lie, I would think that may be true for some posts, but I certainly feel that the vast majority are truthful.

Good luck finding the right fit!

A broker claimed the same thing to me, she was very rude, she then tried to tell me that VGF2 was selling for $250 pp direct lol

When I got the deal I did for my VGF resale I wanted to send her a copy of my contract!

Remember these brokers do want to sell the contracts but their loyalty is to the seller, and the more they sell it for the higher their commission.

I submitted like 10 offers for VGF before a seller accepted. I knew what I wanted to spend and stuck to it. Some brokers were nice and submitted the offer without sharing their dismay, others were quite vocal and I'm not even sure they submitted the offer.

About a year ago there was a thread about a broker/agent claiming in a FB group that 50% of the Dis ROFR posts were lies & she knew because she recognized the deals & users…. I didn’t believe it then & don’t now.
I’m more inclined to think there’s a broker/agent out there (don’t know who & don’t care) who is bitter about Dis‘s ROFR thread
I found the thread extremely helpful through the years w/ my 3 resale purchases - did I get the deals of the century, no, but I offered what seemed a reasonable price based on what was passing ROFR @ the time, and I accurately posted my numbers at the time to help others & believe 99% of posters do the same.
The ROFR numbers tend to be a lagging indicator & in a fast moving market can seem too low when prices are rising, and vice versa.

 

[lovethesun12]

Considering the prices are public knowledge I really don't understand why they're questioned here so much. I only check prices when I'm looking for contracts but at those times found data to be accurate.

It shouldn't be that surprising that people who join a site to look for better deals eventually get better deals.

 

[davidl81]

Did you hear anything today?

Nope, and yesterday was the planned closing day. Broker told me the the ONE person who handles this for Disney was out on leave for a few days but they are back now.

 

[Ginamarie]

The ROFR thread has utility. However, if you look at the average price on the board sponsor's site and compare it to average ROFR thread prices you see a discrepancy. The ROFR thread is self-selecting and skewed for this reasoning. It's a guide but not a complete picture of what everybody is paying. Comments by other posters on 'good deals' act as a positive reinforcer likely skewing reported prices here.

I find this thread helpful as I do the board sponsor's average price blog.

Every listing is more information- the board sponsor prices on the higher side of the market. So I use that as a guide but on the high end. I also find that the board sponsor gives a lot more leeway to sellers on their listing price (ie if the seller wants to price much higher than the market and take no offers below listing, they’ll do it). Some other brokers give more guidance on what’s more reasonable or likely to sell. For that reason, I think a lot of the sellers who want to price high also wind up with the board sponsor as their agent.

If you want the best picture of the market, you have to follow as many indicators as possible whether it’s listings, ROFR reports, or checking the OC register.

 

[purplenancy27]

I havent followed the pricing for a long time, but it seems as if many listing are going down. There seems to be many more OKW and SSR contracts in the 130's and below. It confuses me. Is it to force more through ROFR since they cant buy them all or is the market shifting? Is this a cycle that happens due to the economy and inflation? Is it possible that we could see prices go down as a whole? I wonder if it is a time to wait and see if better deals come along.

 

[redboat45]

I havent followed the pricing for a long time, but it seems as if many listing are going down. There seems to be many more OKW and SSR contracts in the 130's and below. It confuses me. Is it to force more through ROFR since they cant buy them all or is the market shifting? Is this a cycle that happens due to the economy and inflation? Is it possible that we could see prices go down as a whole? I wonder if it is a time to wait and see if better deals come along.

If we truly head into a recession where people are losing their jobs the resale prices will go down. Disney will be too busy trying to sell their direct resorts to worry about resale too much. Things might look very different a year from now but they also might not. If you need more points I'd probably still buy now. IF you're like me and just want more points eventually for retirement a wait and see approach might not be a bad idea.