ROFR Thread April to June 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[pangyal]

Aaaand we are updated!

Sorry for the delay- we were moving last week and the Covid Fairy decided to fly over our house...I recommend not having those two things going on at the same time if one can help it

 

[Paul Stupin]

While I get your point. It’s not really “active” time meaning you have to do something about it, it’s waiting time.

Personally I dealt with a contract issue direct that took a month and 3 revisions to resolve.

While I had my points, there is no guarantee direct will be easier, you will just have your points faster.

I disagree! Whatever issues you had regarding your direct purchase must have been somewhat unusual, since my experience, as well as most if not all other buyers, is that there is indeed pretty much a guarantee that the entire process will be light speed faster, and much, much easier. No ROFR, no interminable waits, no unreliable sellers, just one call, a three minute docusign, and then points loaded within the hour. Of course we all know the trade-offs, and without a doubt resale is considerably cheaper, but the resale process is long and draining (for many that’s a huge cost) and I’ve come to value my direct points for the ability to book at Riviera and other new resorts down the line. And I’ll be glad I have them when I can also book at the refurbed Epcot resorts after 2042. I have plenty of resale too, but for me a mix of resale and direct is optimum.

 

[snowy82]

My guess is that department is shorter staffed than normal. I'm waiting for points to load on a contract with a deed recorded date of 3/25 (I double checked). I have never waited that long...and yes, I've chatted, emailed and called...sigh. Monday is likely the day, so we are at almost a month which is crazy!

Resale is like having a baby. It's a difficult process, but then you forget quickly how bad it was and go buy another contract LOL!

I liken the process to having a baby too! You put an offer in and then have to go through the dreaded two week (now 3 or 4) to see if you’re pregnant or not! You become attached to that contract, and put all your hopes and dreams in it! And then you either succeed and then STILL have to wait or you fail and have to try all over again haha

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

Aaaand we are updated!

Sorry for the delay- we were moving last week and the Covid Fairy decided to fly over our house...I recommend not having those two things going on at the same time if one can help it

Thanks for updating! We appreciate all you do on this thread.

Wishing you and your family a speedy recovery.

 

[mrsap]

Aaaand we are updated!

Sorry for the delay- we were moving last week and the Covid Fairy decided to fly over our house...I recommend not having those two things going on at the same time if one can help it

I hope you’re feeling better!!!

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I disagree! Whatever issues you had regarding your direct purchase must have been somewhat unusual, since my experience, as well as most if not all other buyers, is that there is indeed pretty much a guarantee that the entire process will be light speed faster, and much, much easier. No ROFR, no interminable waits, no unreliable sellers, just one call, a three minute docusign, and then points loaded within the hour. Of course we all know the trade-offs, and without a doubt resale is considerably cheaper, but the resale process is long and draining (for many that’s a huge cost) and I’ve come to value my direct points for the ability to book at Riviera and other new resorts down the line. And I’ll be glad I have them when I can also book at the refurbed Epcot resorts after 2042. I have plenty of resale too, but for me a mix of resale and direct is optimum.

What do you consider optimum? I used to think like you, but now I’ve come almost entirely to the dark side (resale) of the force as only 22% of my points are direct. If 7 month availability becomes difficult at DLT, I may haveto add on a small contract there.

 

[Paul Stupin]

What do you consider optimum? I used to think like you, but now I’ve come almost entirely to the dark side (resale) of the force as only 22% of my points are direct. If 7 month availability becomes difficult at DLT, I may haveto add on a small contract there.

I’m at 33% direct, which is perfect for us. I started buying more direct after a great stay at Riviera, where I have no plans to own but want the ability to book at 7 months. Plus DLT as well. I also got frustrated with the constant delay and hassle of resale, culminating when I had to wait 8 months on a delayed closing last year on a CCV contract to take advantage of a great price, $133. At that point I moved on to buying direct because as great a deal as that was, it was just one of many resale delays that wound up pushing me toward direct. The incentives on VGF2 alone last month represented in my opinion an amazing opportunity.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What do you consider optimum? I used to think like you, but now I’ve come almost entirely to the dark side (resale) of the force as only 22% of my points are direct. If 7 month availability becomes difficult at DLT, I may haveto add on a small contract there.

I've sort of tripped and stumbled my way into DVC-as-a-speculation-vehicle. I started with Saratoga resale, then AKV resale, now Aulani resale at a crazy good price. I could flip all three and be well ahead, even after only holding them for a year or two. My dream would be an incentive at AKV, SSR, or OKW like we just saw at Bay Lake Tower or another Aulani fire sale, at which point I might go 100% direct with 2 or 3 150 point contracts.

 

[Paul Stupin]

I've sort of tripped and stumbled my way into DVC-as-a-speculation-vehicle. I started with Saratoga resale, then AKV resale, now Aulani resale at a crazy good price. I could flip all three and be well ahead, even after only holding them for a year or two. My dream would be an incentive at AKV, SSR, or OKW like we just saw at Bay Lake Tower or another Aulani fire sale, at which point I might go 100% direct with 2 or 3 150 point contracts.

Though I don’t regard my contracts as speculation, it’s great to know they’ve gone up in price! I bought Aulani two years ago in the mid 90s. I wanted enough to be able to book a direct stay for about two weeks when we travel, but we also book at 7 months with other points for the occasional trip. I’m hesitant to add on more resale Aulani contracts because of the dues, and the easy 7 month availability.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Though I don’t regard my contracts as speculation, it’s great to know they’ve gone up in price! I bought Aulani two years ago in the mid 90s. I wanted enough to be able to book a direct stay for about two weeks when we travel, but we also book at 7 months with other points for the occasional trip. I’m hesitant to add on more resale Aulani contracts because of the dues, and the easy 7 month availability.

My logic when I decided to pull the trigger is that I'm always going to plan Hawaii vacations a year or more in advance. I'm usually going to plan Florida vacations 11 months in advance, but not always. With the miserable experience I've had trying to get Value rooms at AKV, I don't put as much of a premium on the home resort window at WDW as I used to.

 

[Paul Stupin]

My logic when I decided to pull the trigger is that I'm always going to plan Hawaii vacations a year or more in advance. I'm usually going to plan Florida vacations 11 months in advance, but not always. With the miserable experience I've had trying to get Value rooms at AKV, I don't put as much of a premium on the home resort window at WDW as I used to.

Makes sense! And, as we both know, Aulani is sensational!

 

[pangyal]

I hope you’re feeling better!!!

Thank you! Didn’t feel like anything but a very mild cold but it decimated our kiddo’s birthday plans and of course made it so that we had to try to juggle all of the moving and renovation stuff while isolating…that was the hard part .

 

[DKZB]

I disagree! Whatever issues you had regarding your direct purchase must have been somewhat unusual, since my experience, as well as most if pnot all other buyers, is that there is indeed pretty much a guarantee that the entire process will be light speed faster, and much, much easier. No ROFR, no interminable waits, no unreliable sellers, just one call, a three minute docusign, and then points loaded within the hour. Of course we all know the trade-offs, and without a doubt resale is considerably cheaper, but the resale process is long and draining (for many that’s a huge cost) and I’ve come to value my direct points for the ability to book at Riviera and other new resorts down the line. And I’ll be glad I have them when I can also book at the refurbed Epcot resorts after 2042. I have plenty of resale too, but for me a mix of resale and direct is optimum.

I certainly think there is a place for direct. In fact about 40% of my points are direct for the future resort bookings assuming restrictions stay in place. My only point is that resale has its place and direct isn’t always perfect.

 

[OverEZPZ]

OverEZPZ---$113-$22217-175-AUL-Apr-5/21, 175/22, 175/23- sent 4/14

 

[Arbogast]

Over a month of waiting on ROFR

 

[hglenn]

Over a month of waiting on ROFR

Day 28 for me..... it seems like that is often a good sign, however, who really knows....? I've seen some taken after 30+ days which totally stinks..... Fingers crossed this is our week with lots of passes!

 

[mrsap]

Day 28 for me..... it seems like that is often a good sign, however, who really knows....? I've seen some taken after 30+ days which totally stinks..... Fingers crossed this is our week with lots of passes!

27 here Good luck to you.

 

[mejones1115]

27 here Good luck to you.

We're at 35 for one and 21 for another. The suspense is killing us.

 

[hglenn]

We're at 35 for one and 21 for another. The suspense is killing us.

Which resorts? I'm BWV.

 

[mejones1115]

Which resorts? I'm BWV.

AKV