ROFR Discussion Thread

[PolyRob]

Same. Just like when I was car shopping for a car, there were dealerships that are no haggle. I just didnt bother stopping there since thats not how I like to do business. But I get that there are many who prefer that model.

As for DVCRM their model works very well for them and I happy they exist so in the future if I sell I can sell with them at a higher dollar amount.

I will say that if they are reading this, while I have no first hand experience I have heard many many times about their agents being rude and condescending. That really needs to change just from be a good human stand point.

There are two agents I was randomly assigned either because I was talking to them through chat or made a blind offer. I do not like dealing with them. More recently I did have a very nice agent so I just submit offers to them directly. Always professional and replies promptly.

https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/ likes to state that the CAF is 100% a buyer fee though and doesn't put that in its total calculation on the website offer page.

I want to add, even though I have never done business with them I do have a certain opinion of them. And if it weren't for Paul and Amy I know my opinion would be much worse. Paul and Amy have a lot of negativity thrown in their direction at times and they both handle it so well. They are very likable people for the brand.

That's the thing... Paul and Amy don't work for DVC Resale Market. They work for DVC Fan and Monera. It's just all part of World of DVC now.

I personally am a huge Paul & Amy fan. #Patreon.

This is how I feel about Jerry and Jamie from The Timeshare Store. They were the original DVC resale brokers of DVC Fan when it first launched. I had actually dealt with Jamie before DVC Fan existed and she was so professional and kind!

DVC Fan has changed a lot over the years. I stopped being interested when it became part of World of DVC. Way too heavy on the resale for my taste. Even featuring some of the brokers I do not want to do business with. https://dvcnews.com/ is my trusted source for unbiased DVC information.

 

[juliebee]

That's the thing... Paul and Amy don't work for DVC Resale Market. They work for DVC Fan and Monera. It's just all part of World of DVC now.

Paul is also the President of DVC Rental Store

 

[PolyRob]

Paul is also the President of DVC Rental Store
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Good to know! I believe he was only DVC Fan when I was still watching.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

Good to know! I believe he was only DVC Fan when I was still watching.

I did not know that either until it was mentioned in the latest podcast.

 

[Sandisw]

I did not know that either until it was mentioned in the latest podcast.

He became president January 1st of this year!!!

 

[atthebeachclub]

One more reason to pay all fees yourself: if the seller is in a tough financial spot, they may not be able to come up with the cash themselves. Not sure if it makes a difference to title, but some sellers may need you to pay the fees I suspect.

 

[VGCgroupie]

One more reason to pay all fees yourself: if the seller is in a tough financial spot, they may not be able to come up with the cash themselves. Not sure if it makes a difference to title, but some sellers may need you to pay the fees I suspect.

It all comes out of the selling proceeds so they dont need to upfront the cash. So fees vs price per point doesnt make any difference. All that matters is the final numbers.

 

[Amy Krieger]

I want to add, even though I have never done business with them I do have a certain opinion of them. And if it weren't for Paul and Amy I know my opinion would be much worse. Paul and Amy have a lot of negativity thrown in their direction at times and they both handle it so well. They are very likable people for the brand.

Aw, this was…oddly heartwarming? We’ll take it.

Seriously though, we appreciate the kind words. There’s definitely plenty of negativity out there, but thankfully we’re finding a lot of really good people too and that’s what we’re choosing to focus on. Otherwise, I’d just go crazy.

 

[atthebeachclub]

It all comes out of the selling proceeds so they dont need to upfront the cash. So fees vs price per point doesnt make any difference. All that matters is the final numbers.

That’s what I wasn’t sure of, but good to know. I don’t think my seller has any cash to cover much.

 

[Flash_Sloth]

That’s what I wasn’t sure of, but good to know. I don’t think my seller has any cash to cover much.

Some people sell because they are in a financial pinch. And if they are underwater for their remaining loan amount vs. selling price & broker commission, etc, they might need to bring money to the table to close the deal, which may be what they can least afford to do when they're in a financial pinch.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Some people sell because they are in a financial pinch. And if they are underwater for their remaining loan amount vs. selling price & broker commission, etc, they might need to bring money to the table to close the deal, which may be what they can least afford to do when they're in a financial pinch.

Yes but that still doesnt change negotiation on CAF being paid by seller vs lower price per point. It all comes out exactly the same at the end of the deal.

 

[Sandisw]

Yes but that still doesnt change negotiation on CAF being paid by seller vs lower price per point. It all comes out exactly the same at the end of the deal.

It doesn’t have to be an either/or. Many sellers are getting the price per point they want and the buyer is paying CAF.

So, as a seller, it is waiting for a buyer willing to do both, so they maximize what they get.

 

[VGCgroupie]

It doesn’t have to be an either/or. Many sellers are getting the price per point they want and the buyer is paying CAF.

So, as a seller, it is waiting for a buyer willing to do both, so they maximize what they get.

My point was not about this. It was in regards to previous poster saying maybe they don’t want to negotiate CAF because they don’t have the cash to bring to the table. I’m not talking about weather or not it should be negotiated or if sellers can hold out for better offers I am just saying not having cash on hand has nothing to do with it.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

Seeing some of these new 50 point AKV contracts has my head spinning . . .

 

[haletiki]

A lot of 150+ contracts hitting the aggregator today.

 

[atthebeachclub]

I really love https://www.dvcforless.com but find I don’t always agree with their star ratings.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

I really love https://www.dvcforless.com but find I don’t always agree with their star ratings.

Maybe agree 75% of the time. Honestly their price per point scale doesn’t make sense if you look at 2 similar contracts imo. Seems they go off the listed price for that. Maybe not. I do believe that DVCRM prices their contracts at what they think the contract could go for. And why we see higher price per point averages when the monthly reports are released.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Maybe agree 75% of the time. Honestly their price per point scale doesn’t make sense if you look at 2 similar contracts imo. Seems they go off the listed price for that. Maybe not. I do believe that DVCRM prices their contracts at what they think the contract could go for. And why we see higher price per point averages when the monthly reports are released.

It seems to really undervalue small contracts with banked points at times and overvalue large stripped contracts. In my personal opinion.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

It seems to really undervalue small contracts with banked points at times and overvalue large stripped contracts. In my personal opinion.

I’m in agreement with you.

 

[AstroBlasters]

My point was not about this. It was in regards to previous poster saying maybe they don’t want to negotiate CAF because they don’t have the cash to bring to the table. I’m not talking about weather or not it should be negotiated or if sellers can hold out for better offers I am just saying not having cash on hand has nothing to do with it.

I think if they are behind on payments they have to bring it up before the contract can close. I had one contract where Disney forced them into foreclosure.