Respect for other guests

[#1DopeyFan]

Here now and I know I won't be going to see the lion king show on our ak day. Not because I didn't like it but because people, despite announcement after announcement, took flash photos. I get migraines from flashing lights and not to mention it distracted the heck out of me. And it is not safe for the actors too. I saw flashes in everything they said no flash photography but due to the layout of lion king, it really cold have an effect on me so I will have to pass. I'll never understand people who can't learn how to turn their flash off. And if you can't bother to learn then dont use your camera.

When we were there last week they said flash photography WAS allowed, just NO lights on your video camera. I still rarely use a flash, just because I don't like the "look" of flash photos...but just letting you know that it was allowed in the FOTLK.

 

[gorkt]

Yeah, flash photography in dark rides is bad enough, but the iPad as a video camera thing drives me literally insane. I don't get being thoughtless enough to stick a giant tablet in front of everyone's face during a performance.

 

[chrishatton]

When we were there last week they said flash photography WAS allowed, just NO lights on your video camera. I still rarely use a flash, just because I don't like the "look" of flash photos...but just letting you know that it was allowed in the FOTLK.

Couldn't agree more. That's why I spend the money for 2.8 and lower lenses.

PS. If any of you see my kids disrespecting anyone in the parks, feel free to clip their ears. They were raised better than that.

 

[NuJoy]

We just returned last week. I noticed that those with IPads appeared to be mostly from other countries. I was particularly impressed with the manners of one gentleman standing in front of us for wishes. He recorded the whole show with his IPad; but held it directly in front of him and close to his body. If I had not seen him with it before the show, I would never noticed he had one at all.

A woman who was standing beside me at Wishes was from UK it sounded from her accent. She filmed the whole show on her iPhone for her mom back home who was watching it simultaneously with her via Skype. I thought that was so sweet that I could not bring myself to think negatively of her.

 

[KiKi Mouse]

People think they are the only ones in the park, and screw everyone else. As long as it doesn't affect them, they don't care. Like someone else said, people will walk through your setup of a picture, then turn around and yell at you if you do it to them.

My favorite is when you take the time to find a great spot for a parade, or fireworks show, and then at the last min, someone walks up and stands directly in front of you. I had that happen one year after I setup my tripod. Luckily the nice people next to me let me move over in front of them.

This. ^^^

Our family takes the time to get a good parade spot. We are a family of five. While we wait the area gets more crowded with people now pushing us. As parade time gets closer people will go between us and then stand right in front even though there is the tape on the ground or the rope. It annoys me a LOT.

 

[AuroraRora]

I've seen a few people mention on here that the best way to deal with others' repeatedly inconsiderate electronics is to accidentally point your spray fan in the direction of their ipad a few times. Reading threads like this make me want to pick one up on my October trip solely for this purpose

I understand pics of family members, characters etc, but I will never understand why people film things like Wishes. Watch the show properly instead of on an iphone screen, and then when you get home you can reminisce watching one of the many professional-quality videos of it already on youtube. Those people with the thousand dollar tripods you see in the park? Let them do the work and then watch their video later online while you enjoy your trip!

 

[mm1971]

What I don't get is why anyone would want to spend all that money on a vacation and then watch it happen from behind a camera or phone, etc. My first Disney vacation I took TWENTY ONE rolls of film (I know, I know ... hey, it was 1997!) and I barely remember any of it. You know what parts I DO remember? Universal Studios, where I HAD no more film left and didn't take any pictures.

Not to say taking pictures shouldn't occur, but it's so much better to EXPERIENCE it when it's happeneing. Too many people care more about how those pictures are going to look when they get home. Take some pictures, but don't go to the point where you're ruining your - or other people's - vacation.

A PP said it best, though - entitlement. We live in a world where people think the rules don't apply to them and don't CARE if they ruin the experience for someone else as long as they got what they wanted.

Excellent point. We bring a camera, but don't recall ever taking a photo from inside a ride. We take pictures of the family and things for the scrap book. when we are on the rides, we just sit back and enjoy.

People are just doing what they want as that is the way things are now. I can't even explain how rude some of my DS friends are and how they behave. How about having 5 kids, going to a restaurant and allowing them to run in and around the tables disturbing everyone while waiting for the food. My kids just sat there and whispered, "why do they act like that?". Too many people are just inconsiderate of others.

 

[mm1971]

Disney has done their part...signs, CM announcements, photopass. Social media is to blame. Everyone wants to post photos on Instagram or sign in at Four Square. It's funny how most of their family or friends could care less that they are eating a turkey leg in front of HM or they are "stuck" on POC!

We realized long ago that cameras/phones took us out of the experience. We wish more guests felt the same way. This isn't a Disney problem though...go to any school performance and find everyone in the audience behind a screen. It's sad.

I disagree that social media is to blame. Social media is certainly the reason people do what they do, but let's remember that we all have to make choices. The individual and the values they are taught are really the issue. That may have been what you meant, I just hate blaming anything but the actual source of the bad behavior.

 

[maxiesmom]

There is no blanket No Flash on All Rides rule. The dark rides do have that rule and it is either posted or announced.

 

[ndebt2disney]

It happens all the time to us! Its honestly one of my biggest pet peeves! (We will NOT even get me started on what part of "Go to the END of the first available row!" do you not understand!

We were on POTC a couple of years ago with someone a couple of rows back taking flash pictures. My DH mumbled the whole time, but held is tongue. The people directly behind us had finally had enough and turned around and told them to put the camera up!

The people pouted, but stopped and when got off the ride said something to the CM at the exit. They were promptly told that the gentleman was correct and they weren't suppose to be taking pictures with flash!!

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

Lack of respect is everywhere, not just WDW. We live in a nation where it is all about "me" and entitlement. The other part of the issue is that Disney does not enforce their own rules.

 

[Ds4angels]

We went to Epcot years ago(I want to say 15 years?) We're there for the night time show, sitting on a bench and when the show starts all we can see in front of us are the little screens of everyone's camcorders

 

[luvmy3]

We realized long ago that cameras/phones took us out of the experience. We wish more guests felt the same way. This isn't a Disney problem though...go to any school performance and find everyone in the audience behind a screen. It's sad.

Maybe you don't care to record memories for posterity and that is fine, but I do. I am thankful for the pictures and videos of long gone relatives. I love being able to show my dd pictures of her and her deceased grandmother because I worry the older she gets she will forget what she looks like. I want her to be able to look at picture or video and have it spark something that may have been forgotten about what she did and who was there with her.
Please don't assume that because some of us choose to be behind the lens we aren't living in the moment. I certainly am, and I'm making sure that those wonderful moments aren't forgotten. You may be lucky enough to just recall them when you want, but I want to make sure if I (or my kids) can't there is something tangible that helps.

Having said that, there is no excuse for people using flash photography and disrupting other people's moments and ruining their memories. It is rude and it isn't just a Disney problem, inconsideration is alive and well everywhere.

 

[Love Tink]

Lack of respect is everywhere, not just WDW. We live in a nation where it is all about "me" and entitlement. The other part of the issue is that Disney does not enforce their own rules.

I don't think Americans are any more "entitled" (drink!) or any more thoughtless now than they have ever been.

I think the availability of technology has changed, not the attitude of people. In 1973, every other person didn't have a big ole digital camera that could be used to take 500 photos a day without thinking about film. They also didn't have electronic flash on their cameras, or phones/devices they are used to carrying every day that can be used to take pictures.

 

[BayouMickey]

 

[FlightlessDuck]

I worked at an amusement park in 1995. People didn't follow the rules then, either.

 

[surferdave]

Social media & devices make it more prevalent but its not new.

Waaay back in the 90's I was pretty active in our local community theater and would act in quite a few plays, including children's plays (acting on stage with kids is a rush because you have no idea what they are going to do next so it's like night at the improv X 1000). It was a small theater, maybe 120 seats, and you were very close to the audience. Every audience was asked very explicitly not to take flash photography because it distracted the actors, and every audience started taking the flash pictures minutes later. It was by far the worst in the children's plays, parents feel entitled to take the pictures (even when they were told they were interfering with their children's performances).

After one children's play (I played Eeyore in Winnie the Pooh, BTW ) a friend of mine laughed and told me he took flash pictures during the show, like I would approve or laugh along with him, and was stunned when I let him have it.

 

[Karbase8]

I am 200 percent in agreement with the original poster. They don't seem to announce no flash photograph on rides especially on Pirates which is the worst. I could not see any of the ride both times I rode it last trip due to the IPhones and recorders. It was very annoying and frustrating and feel they need to do a better job reminding and enforcing the policy. I try to take things with a grain of salt but each year it becomes more difficult to enjoy the attractions.

 

[Karbase8]

Lack of respect is everywhere, not just WDW. We live in a nation where it is all about "me" and entitlement. The other part of the issue is that Disney does not enforce their own rules.

Amen and well said!

 

[chrishatton]

I think tech is the problem. Years ago you needed knowledge, a great lens and good film to shoot low light. No one would do it if they didn't understand it because it was so expensive. Then external flashes came in and we all realized for the most part how harsh the photos looked so we stopped.

Now every phone owning, ipod slinging, point and shoot camera carrying photographer has little knowledge of light, a poor lens and unlike film, endless chances to shoot and delete. They fire like there is no tomorrow because there is no consequence. They don't care if you're in their picture or in the background because they can edit you out. There are no consequences to poor photography anymore.

But that doesn't excuse the poor manners. That all stems from entitlement and the fact that they are trying to take great pictures with substandard glass. They will shoot a hundred photos to get one, that is why you trying to shoot one good one gets ruined.