Resorts that sleep 5?

[Disneylover99]

Disneylover99 I love your avatar was that from this year?

Yes. We went to the first party!

 

[sbd78]

Disney have provided options. If you do not like the options or their pricing, off-site is an option. Disney have decided what level of options they will provide.

I am staying offsite, I mentioned that in my first post. We rented a townhome in Windsor Hills, I'm excited to try it out.

 

[DiaryofaDisneyKid]

Yes. We went to the first party!

Looks like you had fun! That is such a cool picture!

 

[Deb & Bill]

You can put 5 in a studio at Boulder Ridge Villas (at WL). They have 1 queen, 1 double-size sleeper sofa and one twin size pull-down in those rooms. If you liked AKL, you'd probably like BRV at WL. We think it's absolutely gorgeous. Other choices (other than what you've mentioned) are the family suites at AoA and ASMu, Jr. Suites at CSR and the cabins at Ft. W. You could also look into rooms at Swan/Dolphin, but they don't offer DME or 180+10 for ADR's, nor would you get MB's.

Not twin sized, just bunk sized. So shorter and narrower than a twin sized bed. The sleeper chairs in the one and two bedroom villas at BLT, AKV and OKW are twin sized.

 

[Deb & Bill]

If it is purely firecode though, why can't port orleans french quarter or coronado springs sleep 5? They have the same square footage as CBR and POR?

It's not based on square footage in the room. It's based on evacuation space in the corridors, stairwells, doorways.

 

[Marionnette]

We are a family of five with kids DS10, DD7 and DS4. We always just stay at either POR or CBR and know these are the best options for our family. I do understand the values would not have the footprint to fit a 5th person as we were crowded with 5 when our youngest was in a pack n' play at CBR and it is larger then a value. I don't understand however why being able to stay at a value with 4 plus a little one in a pack n' play would be aloud but not a rollaway? I guess rollaways might be longer but pack n' plays take up a huge amount of space and I would think they would violate fire codes just like a rollaway. Disney offers the use of a crib or pack n' play and so they are allowing these in values. I would think a crib might be the same as a rollaway?

Disney has never stated that room occupancy restrictions have anything to do with fire code, at least not in any official capacity.

The answer is just "It's Disney's property, and Disney's rules".

A lot of people like to cite fire code as a reason for some rooms being limited to 4 people, but there are king rooms that are the same size as a regular hotel room and they are limited to 2 people + 1 "under 3". Any co-sleeping families cannot book these rooms even though they feel they would be comfortable in one. Rooms that were once restricted to 4 have had a 5th sleeping surface added and nothing else has changed about the dimensions of the room or the exits in the building. Why? Because "It's Disney's property, and Disney's rules"!

People complained when the only options for larger families was either a deluxe resort or the campgrounds. Disney built the suites at ASMu and people complained that they cost more than 2 Value Resort rooms. Disney had the trundle beds in POR and people complained that there weren't options for families of 5 at other moderates. I swear that there is just no pleasing people! Let's face it, you have a larger than average family and you have to spend more for everything! Vacation travel is no different. With 3 kids, we have dealt with this a lot and when those kids became 18+, we ended up buying DVC so that we can stay together and not have to worry about those punitive "extra adult" fees.

If staying on property with your big family doesn't fit the budget, there are plenty of places close by that can fit the bill. I just don't understand the complaining that Disney is not sensitive to the needs of larger families.

 

[DiaryofaDisneyKid]

Disney has never stated that room occupancy restrictions have anything to do with fire code, at least not in any official capacity.

The answer is just "It's Disney's property, and Disney's rules".

A lot of people like to cite fire code as a reason for some rooms being limited to 4 people, but there are king rooms that are the same size as a regular hotel room and they are limited to 2 people + 1 "under 3". Any co-sleeping families cannot book these rooms even though they feel they would be comfortable in one. Rooms that were once restricted to 4 have had a 5th sleeping surface added and nothing else has changed about the dimensions of the room or the exits in the building. Why? Because "It's Disney's property, and Disney's rules"!

People complained when the only options for larger families was either a deluxe resort or the campgrounds. Disney built the suites at ASMu and people complained that they cost more than 2 Value Resort rooms. Disney had the trundle beds in POR and people complained that there weren't options fo families of 5 at other moderates. I swear that there is just no pleasing people! Let's face it, you have a larger than average family and you have to spend more for everything! Vacation travel is no different. With 3 kids, we have dealt with this a lot and when those kids became 18+, we ended up buying DVC so that we can stay together and not have to worry about those punitive "extra adult" fees.

If staying on property with your big family doesn't fit the budget, there are plenty of places close by that can fit the bill. I just don't understand the complaining that Disney is not sensitive to the needs of larger families.

We have never complained once about staying on property and are quite happy to stay at POR and CBR with our family of 5 and it fits our budget just fine! I was simply stating I don't think it is because of fire codes that Disney restricts room occupancy because a crib would probably be close to the same as far as taking up space as a rollaway. I was not the one who complained about this issue.

 

[maxiesmom]

We are a family of five with kids DS10, DD7 and DS4. We always just stay at either POR or CBR and know these are the best options for our family. I do understand the values would not have the footprint to fit a 5th person as we were crowded with 5 when our youngest was in a pack n' play at CBR and it is larger then a value. I don't understand however why being able to stay at a value with 4 plus a little one in a pack n' play would be aloud but not a rollaway? I guess rollaways might be longer but pack n' plays take up a huge amount of space and I would think they would violate fire codes just like a rollaway. Disney offers the use of a crib or pack n' play and so they are allowing these in values. I would think a crib might be the same as a rollaway?

When this subject has come up before another poster stated it was in part because any resort assumes if someone is in a crib or pack n play they will be carried out. And they don't make the same assumption for someone in a rollaway.

 

[DiaryofaDisneyKid]

When this subject has come up before another poster stated it was in part because any resort assumes if someone is in a crib or pack n play they will be carried out. And they don't make the same assumption for someone in a rollaway.

That makes sense. They do say they offer cribs though (I have never used one) so just confused how that would work. Maybe they say crib but just give you a pack n' play, lol.

 

[stephmarty]

Did you rent the points through a broker, or a private party?

We rented through one of the better-known brokers. There are plenty of reviews and feedback out there to help you understand the process and feel more comfortable.

 

[stephmarty]

There are restrictions that may apply, so when people rent points I think they need to make sure that they are willing to make those concessions. I know that for many sites you must pay in full at the time of booking, and you are locked no. No changes, no refunds. I also think people should be aware tht these are time share accomodations, and that means no daily maid service, no trash pick up, and no towel service daily. It may not matter to a guest, but it can come as a surprise.

True, there are restrictions. But none that we classified as drawbacks. In the end, we had the same wonderful experience that our neighbors next door had for hundreds (over $1K less) for a week stay at Poly. Didn't mind making our own beds and picking up our towels for that price. Large families on a budget have to be creative and accept some limitations. But there are great options if you are willing to think outside the box. One other thing I'd consider is a non-Disney all-suites hotel like Embassy Suites. Some good ones near Disney Springs, free breakfast in most cases, two rooms, and free park transportation. With Disney cutting back on EMH and now charging for the privilege of extended hours, we find the Disney resorts to be less and less attractive options for our family. That said, we're staying 2 nights pre-cruise at POR later this week! But we looked at lots of other options before booking.

 

[Marionnette]

We have never complained once about staying on property and are quite happy to stay at POR and CBR with our family of 5 and it fits our budget just fine! I was simply stating I don't think it is because of fire codes that Disney restricts room occupancy because a crib would probably be close to the same as far as taking up space as a rollaway. If you would read through the thread before commenting you would see I was not the one who complained about this issue.

Perhaps I should have split my post into 2 separate posts. I did not mean to imply that YOU were complaining about room occupancy limits. I only meant to address the complaints by a large number of big families regarding that issue. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

 

[Marionnette]

True, there are restrictions. But none that we classified as drawbacks. In the end, we had the same wonderful experience that our neighbors next door had for hundreds (over $1K less) for a week stay at Poly. Didn't mind making our own beds and picking up our towels for that price. Large families on a budget have to be creative and accept some limitations. But there are great options if you are willing to think outside the box. One other thing I'd consider is a non-Disney all-suites hotel like Embassy Suites. Some good ones near Disney Springs, free breakfast in most cases, two rooms, and free park transportation. With Disney cutting back on EMH and now charging for the privilege of extended hours, we find the Disney resorts to be less and less attractive options for our family. That said, we're staying 2 nights pre-cruise at POR later this week! But we looked at lots of other options before booking.

I think that the biggest negative about DVC renting for a lot of people is the "no refunds/no changes" restrictions that come with rentals. A lot of very unhappy people learned a hard lesson when they could not get a refund from the agencies following Irma. That's why one agency sells "cancel for any reason" insurance for the reservation and another strongly recommends buying trip insurance.

 

[DiaryofaDisneyKid]

Perhaps I should have split my post into 2 separate posts. I did not mean to imply that YOU were complaining about room occupancy limits. I only meant to address the complaints by a large number of big families regarding that issue. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

No problem. These threads move fast sometimes, lol.

 

[Kaytie]

Standard hotel rooms only:
Walt Disney World Dolphin, Wyndham Grand Orlando Resort Bonnet Creek, Park Inn by Raddison, Red Lion Maingate, Knights Inn Maingate, Comfort Inn Maingate, Best Western Disney Springs, Holiday Inn Resort Lake Buena Vista

Dolphin rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Wyndham Bonnet Creek, ditto
Park Inn, no idea - only has two beds no rollaway
Red Lion rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Knights Inn rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Comfort Inn has two queens and a sofa bed, so actually holds six anyway.
Holiday Inn Resort Lake Buena rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Best Western Disney Springs provides five sleeping surfaces in some rooms

I swear that there is just no pleasing people!

 

[Nancyg56]

True, there are restrictions. But none that we classified as drawbacks. In the end, we had the same wonderful experience that our neighbors next door had for hundreds (over $1K less) for a week stay at Poly. Didn't mind making our own beds and picking up our towels for that price. Large families on a budget have to be creative and accept some limitations. But there are great options if you are willing to think outside the box. One other thing I'd consider is a non-Disney all-suites hotel like Embassy Suites. Some good ones near Disney Springs, free breakfast in most cases, two rooms, and free park transportation. With Disney cutting back on EMH and now charging for the privilege of extended hours, we find the Disney resorts to be less and less attractive options for our family. That said, we're staying 2 nights pre-cruise at POR later this week! But we looked at lots of other options before booking.

Oh I agree that for many the benefits far exceed any deficits, but I do think that before anyone jumps in they really need to know what they just signed on for. I have read some stories that make me cringe when folks check in and expect the full boat. Or want upgrades, etc.

I think that the biggest negative about DVC renting for a lot of people is the "no refunds/no changes" restrictions that come with rentals. A lot of very unhappy people learned a hard lesson when they could not get a refund from the agencies following Irma. That's why one agency sells "cancel for any reason" insurance for the reservation and another strongly recommends buying trip insurance.

Yes.

 

[Nancyg56]

We are a family of five with kids DS10, DD7 and DS4. We always just stay at either POR or CBR and know these are the best options for our family. I do understand the values would not have the footprint to fit a 5th person as we were crowded with 5 when our youngest was in a pack n' play at CBR and it is larger then a value. I don't understand however why being able to stay at a value with 4 plus a little one in a pack n' play would be aloud but not a rollaway? I guess rollaways might be longer but pack n' plays take up a huge amount of space and I would think they would violate fire codes just like a rollaway. Disney offers the use of a crib or pack n' play and so they are allowing these in values. I would think a crib might be the same as a rollaway?

I really do not know. I wonder if it is that these can be situated in a space that does not block doors and windows. I truly am not sure about fire codes so you will never hear me use that reason. I do think for the moderates it may have to do with overall capacity at any given resort.

 

[sbd78]

Dolphin rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Wyndham Bonnet Creek, ditto
Park Inn, no idea - only has two beds no rollaway
Red Lion rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Knights Inn rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Comfort Inn has two queens and a sofa bed, so actually holds six anyway.
Holiday Inn Resort Lake Buena rooms have sleeping surfaces for four, fifth would require rollaway at extra cost
Best Western Disney Springs provides five sleeping surfaces in some rooms

But they allow it, Disney does not. Absolutely though, Disney is free to make any rules they want regarding their hotels, and even if I had 2 kids instead of 3, I would still probably choose to stay offsite. DH and I like to have our own area to hang out in and watch t.v. after the kids go to bed and onsite multi-room options are more than we want to spend. I'm not complaing, just stating facts.

 

[DiaryofaDisneyKid]

I really do not know. I wonder if it is that these can be situated in a space that does not block doors and windows. I truly am not sure about fire codes so you will never hear me use that reason. I do think for the moderates it may have to do with overall capacity at any given resort.

I agree with you I think it might have something to do with overall capacity and keeping POFQ and CS more adult themed. We love POR so for us we are just happy that it sleeps 5, lol.

 

[HopperFan]

Not twin sized, just bunk sized. So shorter and narrower than a twin sized bed. The sleeper chairs in the one and two bedroom villas at BLT, AKV and OKW are twin sized.

Very important point for those looking at rooms with fold down bunks. They are narrow and short. I have no trouble sleeping on a twin bed but I would not be able to sleep on these bunks. So when booking one should consider size of guest using it.

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Disney offers LOTS of options for larger families. Maybe even more variety of types as well, from campground to value to moderate to deluxe. If the price is not something you are willing to pay then it is up to you to find a better option, for you. It's not up to Disney to change their business model.

We are 5. When all 5 of us go, we stay offsite. There are LOTS of great options for us. At Disney Springs there is Doubletree Suites, B Resort and others. Offsite we have enjoyed Embassy Suites, Staybridge Suites, WBC, Sheraton Vistana, Buena Vista Suites, Caribe Royale ... just to name a few.