Republican Majority leader blames troops

[Chloe'sMom]

I corrected it IMMEDIATELY when I did recheck and included an apology! Notice how the littled "last edited" phrase doesn't appear---b/c I did it right away.

FTR--it was 1:46 for me and I was sleeping--then awoke to homeschool, then took the kids to gymnastics--then found this post with the whining that no conservative responded. Is that okay with you?

Since us conservatives are soooo bad to not respond to something according to your expectations or lack there of.

Lisa you know just as well as I do that there are certain conservative posters who jump on this kind of crap faster then a fly on dung. I believe those are the people that MuggMan is addressing - not neccesarily you, who has a life

~Amanda

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

There was also plenty of redirection and deflection by bringing Bush into the mix.

Did Somebody say deflection?

(Kyle, can you ever agree that a Democrat does ANYTHING wrong? EVER!!??).

Nope. No deflection here.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Lisa you know just as well as I do that there are certain conservative posters who jump on this kind of crap faster then a fly on dung. I believe those are the people that MuggMan is addressing - not neccesarily you, who has a life

~Amanda

OT--but congrats on Chloe Amanda. Did you post a pic on the DIS on a thread somewhere?

Baby girls are wonderful, aren't they?

 

[Mugg Mann]

Lisa you know just as well as I do that there are certain conservative posters who jump on this kind of crap faster then a fly on dung. I believe those are the people that MuggMan is addressing - not neccesarily you, who has a life

~Amanda

Thank you, Chloe'sMom. Well said.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

OT--but congrats on Chloe Amanda. Did you post a pic on the DIS on a thread somewhere?

Baby girls are wonderful, aren't they?

OT - no I haven't posted a picture of her here due to being paranoid. LOL! If you PM me your email address I'll send ya a picture.

~Amanda

 

[TheDoctor]

We are not the only ones who have noticed that MSM (which is right wing) is not covering this story. http://mediamatters.org/items/200611020011

Despite heavily covering Kerry's "botched joke," media largely ignored Boehner's comments that "the generals on the ground," not Rumsfeld, are to "blame for what's happening in Iraq"

While expressing his support for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld during a November 1 interview on CNN's The Situation Room, House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) told host Wolf Blitzer: "[L]et's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld" because "the fact is, the generals on the ground are in charge." Shortly thereafter, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (NV) issued a statement demanding an apology from Boehner for "blaming our troops for failures in Iraq," rather than casting blame on "the Bush Administration's failed policy" and the Republican leadership that "have rubberstamped" it. On the November 2 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Boehner refused to apologize, stating, "[N]ice try, Harry." Yet despite devoting significant attention to Republicans' demands that Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) apologize for his "botched joke," the print media, network news, and cable news outlets have largely ignored Boehner's remarks and Reid's demand for an apology.

Gee. I am not surprised that a republican would not have to admit to something was wrong on Fox and Friends.

 

[disneyfan67]

I have several comments;

-Ironically, you took my words out of the context they were written in. The original post detailing Boehner's comments were posted at 12:46 AM. I posted more than six hours after that when not a single conservative had yet condemned his words. While I can understand that the initial post was past bedtime for most, I challenge you to find a similar gap on the major Kerry threads over the last two days. By the time Cape Cod Tenor was the first to condemn Boehner's comments, almost 8 and a half hours of conservative silence had elapsed. Conside the actual words I wrote in that context when not a single conservative poster here yet there was no shortage whatsoever of Kerry condemnations during that same time period;



My condemnation was of those who chose to scream loud and hard on one type of thread yet UNANIMOUSLY remained silent to that point on this one.

Please note that I did in fact praise those who did respond in a subsequent post, as I would you. But when I wrote that it was very maddening to see attack after attack and not a peep here.

Thank you for letting me get that off my chest.

-John Boehner is the Republican house majority leader, and has been ever since Tom Delay was forced to resign while under indictment. Considering that the comments in question came from the house majority leader, it makes them even more newsworthy.

Understood. I appreciate your response Mugg and I thank you. I have to go to work now so I can't talk further. You know conservatives like me are a slave to capitalism, off to work I go!

Eddie

 

[Charade]

100% untrue as there were liberal/democratic posters who posted that they thought Kerry should apologize. I was one of them, so I know they were there. The fact is no one bothers to read all 33 pages of drivel.

Only 100 percent untrue if I said all. I didn't say all and I read most of the thread and I saw the usual suspects pipe in with their usual defense, redirection and deflections.

 

[TheDoctor]

This is amusing. ABC believes that the lack of media coverage of Boehner's insult of the troops is due to the fact that the Democrats are not as good as the Republican in manufacturing media events. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=156238&cacheKill=322913

If you need any further proof that Republicans play the Freak Show game better than the Democrats, ask yourself if you know about Democratic efforts to pull a "Kerry" on John Boehner yesterday. You don't, most likely, and there are myriad reasons for that.

Rove and company are masters of the "freak show game" and the Democrats have not be successful here.

 

[Charade]

I have several comments;

-Ironically, you took my words out of the context they were written in. The original post detailing Boehner's comments were posted at 12:46 AM. I posted more than six hours after that when not a single conservative had yet condemned his words. While I can understand that the initial post was past bedtime for most, I challenge you to find a similar gap on the major Kerry threads over the last two days. By the time Cape Cod Tenor was the first to condemn Boehner's comments, almost 8 and a half hours of conservative silence had elapsed. Conside the actual words I wrote in that context when not a single conservative poster here yet there was no shortage whatsoever of Kerry condemnations during that same time period;



.

This was most likely caused by this thread being pushed to page 2. Many people don't get past page 1. Unless they're really bored.

Besides that, I think your spending WAAAAY too much time thinking about this.

 

[Charade]

Did Somebody say deflection?



Nope. No deflection here.

No, not really because this thread mentioned the Kerry thread. That's what I was talking about but it was a stupid question because the answer is obvious. It's no.

 

[TheDoctor]

I think that this is kind of sad. The only media that appears to be covering the Boehner insult to the troops is the military media. The report that I posted about Boehner's refusal to apologize is being carried in all of the military media papers. http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2006/11/now_boehner_on_.html

This is being reported in ALL the Military Times outlets (Army Times, Navy Times, etc.). You know. Something the troops see every day.

Bet the morale is just bubbling over among 'em now, eh? When they read that the Republican House Majority Leader, who helped start the war, is blaming their commanders on the ground and not Rumsfeld for how it's going, they're going to just hate the Democrats, right? Uh-huh.

While the right wing controlled media here in the states are ignoring this story, the military is well aware of the insult made by Boehner.

 

[Charade]

I think that this is kind of sad. The only media that appears to be covering the Boehner insult to the troops is the military media. The report that I posted about Boehner's refusal to apologize is being carried in all of the military media papers. http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2006/11/now_boehner_on_.html While the right wing controlled media here in the states are ignoring this story, the military is well aware of the insult made by Boehner.

Right wing controlled media??!?!!




You owe me a new screen. Milk out the nose!!!

 

[Charade]

If you think the media doesn't lean left, take Wolf Blitzer's comment I heard yesterday into account. While referring to the Republicans becoming the majority in the house and senate in 94 he said they "seized" control as if it were a forceful takeover or a drug bust when the DEA seizes property.

And before he died, I heard Peter Jennings say when Bush won in 2004, that America got it wrong once again.

 

[NewJersey]

I find what he said pretty tasteless and honestly how can you not blame Rummy and the plan that was put forth for Iraq (or lack of a plan honestly).

It was great seeing Bush standing next to Rummy today defending him...just keep digging that hole deeper, Bush.

 

[crcormier]

If you think the media doesn't lean left, take Wolf Blitzer's comment I heard yesterday into account. While referring to the Republicans becoming the majority in the house and senate in 94 he said they "seized" control as if it were a forceful takeover or a drug bust when the DEA seizes property.

And before he died, I heard Peter Jennings say when Bush won in 2004, that America got it wrong once again.

The only side that controls the media nowadays is the corporate side. There is no left or right, it's what's in the best interest of the corporation and how to make money. So no, there is no 'liberal media' biased, and no 'conservative media' bias. It's all "how will we make the most money" biased.

And that's not good for the country.

 

[TheDoctor]

The only side that controls the media nowadays is the corporate side. There is no left or right, it's what's in the best interest of the corporation and how to make money. So no, there is no 'liberal media' biased, and no 'conservative media' bias. It's all "how will we make the most money" biased.

And that's not good for the country.

Until recently the money has been with supporting the repubicans and bush. Look at Path to 9/11 which was shown compared to the Reagan mini series which was pulled. Look at the prior success of Faux. Now that may be changing. Faux's ratings have dropped like a rock and Countdown is up 60+% this year alone.

 

[TheDoctor]

Again, john/charade ignores the point of my prior post. The military press is covering this issue and covered the fact that Boehner refused to apologize to the troops. That has to be a blow to the morale of our troops. Why do the republicans/John Boehner hate our troops?

 

[TheDoctor]

This is great. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15552211/from/ET/

Just days after President Bush publicly affirmed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's job security through the end of his term, a family of publications catering to the military will publish an editorial calling for the defense secretary's removal.

The editorial, released to NBC News on Friday ahead of its Monday publication date, stated, "It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads."

The editorial will appear just one day before the midterm election, in which GOP candidates have been losing ground, according to recent polls.

"This is not about the midterm elections," continued the editorial, which will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times on Monday. "Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go."

The newspapers are part of the Military Times Media Group, a subsidiary of the Gannett Co., Inc. The publications are sold to service members and their families.

On Wednesday, Bush had said he wants Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney to remain in his administration until the end of his presidency, extending a vote of confidence to two of the most-criticized members of his team.

 

[What the Heck]

I think that this is kind of sad. The only media that appears to be covering the Boehner insult to the troops is the military media. The report that I posted about Boehner's refusal to apologize is being carried in all of the military media papers. http://www.hoffmania.com/blog/2006/11/now_boehner_on_.html While the right wing controlled media here in the states are ignoring this story, the military is well aware of the insult made by Boehner.

Perhaps the media isn't picking up Boehner's insult to the troops because he didn't insult the troops, he insulted the generals. Granted, his comment was stupid and moronic at best, but he wasn't insulting the troops the way Kerry did. Where are your calls for Kerry to apologize?