Remember how much can happen in a few weeks...

brentm77

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For those of us cruising in mid-April and beyond (June for me), remember how much can happen in a matter of a few weeks. Think of where we were a month ago versus now. The change is drastic. Four weeks seems like a short time from now, but there is a very good chance this thing will have turned a corner and will be returning to normal. In two months, this may be a distant memory. If not, then a month or two after that. In any event, at some point, life will return to normal. Not all hope is lost.

And for those who have already missed cruising because of recent cancellations, I am sorry. I hope you have happier cruising days ahead.

For now, enjoy the extra time with friends, family, or yourself, as you wait this thing out and limit social interaction to help save lives and slow down the spread.
 
I think it will get worse before it gets better. Many are saying go out as they normally would and encourage others to do the same. I guess depending on your age and if one has no chronic illness, etc. you are good to go.....but for many others we have to limit our socializing because a young, healthier person can be a carrier and pass it on to us. Yes, even our own adult kids.

We are all hoping it all slows down but I don't see this happening. Of course, I hope I am wrong and would be very happy if the media is exaggerating.

We cancelled a cruise and a Disney vacation. Just not worth the risk. Not worried about it.

I also hope this will be a distant memory very soon and we can all move on without giving everything a second thought.
 
People keep sharing the flatten the curve picture, but I don't think they are comprehending what that does to the duration. China didn't flatten the curve and they seem to just now improving 4 months in. I'm afraid flattening the curve might stretch this out into next Winter. I know the health care system can only handle so many patients, but the US and World economies can't take a 6 month shutdown.
 
China's numbers have dropped tremendously in the last few days. I think we'll see a sharp spike in new cases and then a drop in a few weeks too.
 

People keep sharing the flatten the curve picture, but I don't think they are comprehending what that does to the duration. China didn't flatten the curve and they seem to just now improving 4 months in. I'm afraid flattening the curve might stretch this out into next Winter. I know the health care system can only handle so many patients, but the US and World economies can't take a 6 month shutdown.

Absolutely agree. I don’t think people understand that the efforts being taken now are to save as many lives as possible, not get back to normal quickly. Flattening the curve means it’s better for 100 people to get it this week and 100 next week rather than all 200 in one week, BUT 200 still get it. This is a novel virus. It stops when we get a vaccine or herd immunity (and it takes A LOT of people for herd immunity to kick in).
 
China's numbers have dropped tremendously in the last few days. I think we'll see a sharp spike in new cases and then a drop in a few weeks too.

China had in relatively contained to several population centers, ours is spread through the country. China only peaked 6 weeks after they cut all social interaction and locked their population down. China is ahead of us by at least 12 weeks in the outbreak. Finally, health officials are not declaring victory in China. Yes, China stopped their runaway train, but the virus is still there. As people get back to work it will start spreading again and the cases will begin to climb.

I do not want to e doom and gloom but no one in the health and science fields believe this will start dropping in a few weeks.
 
I am not naive, and I absolutely understand that flattening the infection rate actually draws out the pandemic. I also aware that experts believe this could last several months or more.

However, I am optimistic that life will begin to return to normal rather quickly, with travel becoming common again when we get past a certain point where restrictions are ineffective.

Let me tell you a about a coworker who just returned from living on Singapore through their peak. He said he felt like he was reliving exactly what he went through there a few weeks ago. There was a week or two where store shelves were empty and people were panicking. But, life has now returned to normal as people are learning they just need to be more cautious about infection. He is confident we will see the same thing here soon.

There are many factors that are different than China. Including how we live, population densities, weather, health care, etc. Even South Korea appears to have reached their peak in a fraction of the time.

I am not saying this will be over in a few weeks, just that things will be much different than they are now. I also acknowledge that I could be absolutely wrong. But being an optimistic, with caution, will help in times like this.

For those of you who reveal in doomsday predictions, I am sorry if I rained on your gloomy parade. I am not downplaying the risk or saying this is only the flu. Just that it won't last forever. Life will return to normal for nearly everyone.

If you want to see a hopeful, timely, and uplifting Disney message in this difficult time, watch episode 5 of Imagineering Story on Disney Plus. We were all in tears. Trust me. I could not believe how on point it was for right now.

Hang in there everyone.
 
I am not naive, and I absolutely understand that flattening the infection rate actually draws out the pandemic. I also aware that experts believe this could last several months or more.

However, I am optimistic that life will begin to return to normal rather quickly, with travel becoming common again when we get past a certain point where restrictions are ineffective.

Let me tell you a about a coworker who just returned from living on Singapore through their peak. He said he felt like he was reliving exactly what he went through there a few weeks ago. There was a week or two where store shelves were empty and people were panicking. But, life has now returned to normal as people are learning they just need to be more cautious about infection. He is confident we will see the same thing here soon.

There are many factors that are different than China. Including how we live, population densities, weather, health care, etc. Even South Korea appears to have reached their peak in a fraction of the time.
One thing to consider: The people of Korea and Singapore (I’ve traveled to both and work with colleagues in both countries) are generally very compliant when their government tells them to do something. Both countries limited movement and put restrictions in place right away. It’s not quite the same situation in the US.
 
One thing to consider: The people of Korea and Singapore (I’ve traveled to both and work with colleagues in both countries) are generally very compliant when their government tells them to do something. Both countries limited movement and put restrictions in place right away. It’s not quite the same situation in the US.

For sure. I don't expect nearly as much compliance here, but that would actually mean we have a worse peak, but shorter duration.
 
iFor now, enjoy the extra time with friends, family, or yourself, as you wait this thing out and limit social interaction to help save lives and slow down the spread.
I know you mean well. But what extra time? Most people have to work continue their lives like normal. You want us to limit social interaction but spend more time with friends and family. Social interaction is two or more people.
 
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I know you mean well. But what extra time? Most people have to work continue their lives like normal. You want us to limit social interaction but spend more time with friends and family. Social interaction is two or more people.

I have to work too. I was referring to the fact that many of us have been asked to stay home when not working, so we may have much more time with family at home. I added friends, since not everyone has family at home, but some people have roommates and companions at home, and some experts are saying maybe you could have a small group of friends get together if everyone agrees to not socialize outside that group (although other experts disagree). In my particular situation, I will have significantly more time with my teenagers than normal.

When life gives you lemons...
 
I’m thinking about tacking on a cruise to my wdw vacation in May Worst thing that can happen is it cancels and I get my money back
 
China had in relatively contained to several population centers, ours is spread through the country. China only peaked 6 weeks after they cut all social interaction and locked their population down. China is ahead of us by at least 12 weeks in the outbreak. Finally, health officials are not declaring victory in China. Yes, China stopped their runaway train, but the virus is still there. As people get back to work it will start spreading again and the cases will begin to climb.

I do not want to e doom and gloom but no one in the health and science fields believe this will start dropping in a few weeks.

That's me! I think we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. Remember how China quickly built makeshift hospitals to handle the massive volume of patients? We are not at that point, and I hope we never are, but our ICU beds and staff are not overwhelmed yet. The long incubation period means there are a LOT of people, walking around, going about their routine, that will soon find out they've been infecting everyone around them for the past several days. It will be up to 2 weeks later that those people discover they caught it.
Like a bomb with an incredibly long, slow-burning fuse.
 
I’m thinking about tacking on a cruise to my wdw vacation in May Worst thing that can happen is it cancels and I get my money back
worst thing that could happen another person comes down with and you are trapped on ship/somewhere for at least 2 more weeks
 
worst thing that could happen another person comes down with and you are trapped on ship/somewhere for at least 2 more weeks
Worst would actually be that people deciding they are above quarantine spread the virus.

If this were really personal choice it'd be one thing, but it's not.
 
For those of us cruising in mid-April and beyond (June for me), remember how much can happen in a matter of a few weeks. Think of where we were a month ago versus now. The change is drastic. Four weeks seems like a short time from now, but there is a very good chance this thing will have turned a corner and will be returning to normal. In two months, this may be a distant memory. If not, then a month or two after that. In any event, at some point, life will return to normal. Not all hope is lost.

And for those who have already missed cruising because of recent cancellations, I am sorry. I hope you have happier cruising days ahead.

For now, enjoy the extra time with friends, family, or yourself, as you wait this thing out and limit social interaction to help save lives and slow down the spread.
Thank you! With all the doom and gloom talk out there. I needed to see a little positivity.
 
In other words, I'd like to be optimistic that we can take measures to save as many lives as possible. This optimism makes optimism about leisure travel unrealistic, as they don't seem to be compatible goals - save lives, let people jaunt about.
 
While I disagree with the sentiment, I LOVE the positive attitude. Keeping a positive attitude is great for the immune system.
 

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