Religion?

[Sparx]

I'm Christan and proud of it.

This thing about Pastor's not getting paid. Umm....HELLO! That's their JOB. It's no different then a doctor getting paid. And some of them have families to support and bills to pay! It's a full time job just like a 9 to 5 in an office!!

Sorry, if I came on a little strong. I feel strongly about this cause my Papa is a pastor.

i think most people feel that pastors should have other jobs, and then preach on sunday (or wednesday or whenever) on their off time, because they have a passion for it.

 

[KidGoofy]

I'm Christan and proud of it.

This thing about Pastor's not getting paid. Umm....HELLO! That's their JOB. It's no different then a doctor getting paid. And some of them have families to support and bills to pay! It's a full time job just like a 9 to 5 in an office!!

Sorry, if I came on a little strong. I feel strongly about this cause my Papa is a pastor.

Not all religions because I am Roman Catholic and are priests dont get married. They are supposed to be married to God(?...thats what I keep hearing but it sounds weird to me). They are not supposed to have relationships outside of the Church. So they live in a convent by the Church and the money they get is the Donations.

That is how it is at my church

 

[Axel]

I'm Christan and proud of it.

This thing about Pastor's not getting paid. Umm....HELLO! That's their JOB. It's no different then a doctor getting paid. And some of them have families to support and bills to pay! It's a full time job just like a 9 to 5 in an office!!

Sorry, if I came on a little strong. I feel strongly about this cause my Papa is a pastor.

I'll concede that. If a pastor has a family to support, he should receive an amount that is proportionate to what he needs to help support his family.

However, in religions like Roman Catholicism where priests aren't allowed to get married, I don't believe they should be paid. They have nobody to support but themselves and should be living simply anyway. Their food should be provided for through a portion of donations. After all, didn't Jesus once tell men that they should sell all their material possesions and follow him?

 

[ktbutterfly2011]

i think most people feel that pastors should have other jobs, and then preach on sunday (or wednesday or whenever) on their off time, because they have a passion for it.

To be a good 'pastor', you can't just be there 7 am- 12 pm on Sundays to preach. Being a pastor takes up so much time what with hospital visits, and preparing your sermon, marriage counsel and people who are struggling with their faith. It's a job.

 

[I Am What I Am]

To be a good 'pastor', you can't just be there 7 am- 12 pm on Sundays to preach. Being a pastor takes up so much time what with hospital visits, and preparing your sermon, marriage counsel and people who are struggling with their faith. It's a job.

ITA.

 

[OneTreeHill]

To be a good 'pastor', you can't just be there 7 am- 12 pm on Sundays to preach. Being a pastor takes up so much time what with hospital visits, and preparing your sermon, marriage counsel and people who are struggling with their faith. It's a job.

Yes, I agree.
My pastor anyway, spends so much time on pastoring and with the youth group and things like that, that he wouldn't have time for another job.
I think they should get paid, because most times they can't or don't have to get another job, and they have families to feed.
My pastor is 28 and has three children and is married. I think he should be paid for what he does.

JMO.

 

[3mtn-kate]

i'm born and raised catholic but i just recently got into my faith a little more. Like i went on a mission trip last summer and it really was the most amazing thing i ever did for myself. I'm going again this summer

I don't really flaunt my faith or really get into it but i enjoy going to church and i love the music and everything...

 

[disneydance]

i'm born and raised catholic but i just recently got into my faith a little more. Like i went on a mission trip last summer and it really was the most amazing thing i ever did for myself. I'm going again this summer

I don't really flaunt my faith or really get into it but i enjoy going to church and i love the music and everything...

I cant stand going to regular services
But thats just me I hate the fact your forced to stand up during worship
The music is ok at my church I think the fall retreat I went to a few weeks had back had better music but thats just me
I'm not a fan of the pastor preaching style
I think I'm looking at all the negatives right now but yeah
I just started going to life groups and I enjoy it alot more
I feel like it real and there and not all fake and I actually get what there saying
I also like that they only do a few worship songs and its more of a community feeling
Just wondering where your mission trip was to?
I'm agnostic but I hear alot about mission here and I'm just curious what yours was too

 

[MrsSparrow..]

Thats the way I am if anyone asks me at school I'll say I'm Christian

I was baptized Christian in 2nd grade the youngest you could do it at my church.
It wasnt really my decision it was more of my parents forcing me to do it
If I had to do it again I wouldnt let them make me do it
Everyone at my church thought of me as the perfect Christian child but I was far from that
I didnt really accept him into my heart till 6th grade
Then this Summer is when I seriously started questioning this so called God
Now I have some belief but not enough
I also shocked the world when my parents heard about it

We should start our own club

I was confirmed and I'm kindof regretting it... I feel like I'm lying to everyone because my beliefs are so drastically different in major issues.

If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't feel guilty for doubting my religion, because everyone at some point has some doubts. Just search in yourself, and if you find praying helps you then pray. You might even find that you don't believe in it, and be agnostic or atheist, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Don't regret it, it happened, and now you move on.


On another note, I can't stand catholic masses anymore. We're forced to go to them at school and it drives me crazy. They are really depressing and it seems more like repetition than praise.

Thats MY Opinion though ^.

-Ashleigh

 

[disneydance]

We should start our own club



If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't feel guilty for doubting my religion, because everyone at some point has some doubts. Just search in yourself, and if you find praying helps you then pray. You might even find that you don't believe in it, and be agnostic or atheist, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Don't regret it, it happened, and now you move on.


On another note, I can't stand catholic masses anymore. We're forced to go to them at school and it drives me crazy. They are really depressing and it seems more like repetition than praise.

Thats MY Opinion though ^.

-Ashleigh

Wow I'm not the only one
I guess they were one of the last people to find out with me but still
I'm pretty confident everyone in my church know about it since when it happened it was like at 11:00pm and we didnt get finished talking till 2:00am
I was really afraid to tell anyone at first since I thought there would be alot of pitty on me but people have still treated me the same
I've met some amazing people through it
I would also say if you dont believe in it, it's ok
I mean I'm agnostic currently I'm getting closer to becoming Christian but I havent reconfirmed it
I've spent alot of time talking to people about it and they were really open
May I ask one last thing
What about dinosaurs
I mean there not in the bible and didnt they come before humans
Are they fake or something?
Ok one of the millions of things holding me back

 

[HouseMD1120]

Wow I'm not the only one
I guess they were one of the last people to find out with me but still
I'm pretty confident everyone in my church know about it since when it happened it was like at 11:00pm and we didnt get finished talking till 2:00am
I was really afraid to tell anyone at first since I thought there would be alot of pitty on me but people have still treated me the same
I've met some amazing people through it
I would also say if you dont believe in it, it's ok
I mean I'm agnostic currently I'm getting closer to becoming Christian but I havent reconfirmed it
I've spent alot of time talking to people about it and they were really open
May I ask one last thing
What about dinosaurs
I mean there not in the bible and didnt they come before humans
Are they fake or something?
Ok one of the millions of things holding me back

Animals and man were created on the first day of creation. (See the beginning of Genesis). So if dinos were real, humans and man coexisted. Its possible that they were wiped out just before the flood. Although, in the book of Jonah, most people say Jonah was swallowed by a whale. It doesn't ever say that in the Bible. It's possible that it was a water dino.

 

[AliceinHalloweentown]

Animals and man were created on the first day of creation. (See the beginning of Genesis). So if dinos were real, humans and man coexisted. Its possible that they were wiped out just before the flood. Although, in the book of Jonah, most people say Jonah was swallowed by a whale. It doesn't ever say that in the Bible. It's possible that it was a water dino.

I thought animals were ccreated before man.. and who's to judge what "a day" means. For all we know that could be millions of years.
Why is it impossible for dinosaurs to have never met man?
Another thing, why can't creationism and evolutionism coexist, using the logic I stated before?

 

[pigletgirl]

That question is asked ALLL the time!!

It doesn't mention other places/things, but that doesnt mean it didnt exist. God was around when the dinosaurs were here. There were no humans.

 

[HouseMD1120]

I thought animals were ccreated before man.. and who's to judge what "a day" means. For all we know that could be millions of years.
Why is it impossible for dinosaurs to have never met man?
Another thing, why can't creationism and evolutionism coexist, using the logic I stated before?

Sorry It's super long.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

1. The Bible specifically says that it was 1 day. Although in other places in the Bible it mention that to God, "A day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day." So it could have taken place over 6 days, or 6,000 years.

2. I never said that it was impossible. In fact, I specifically said that Jonah could have been swallowed by a dinosaur.

3. I haven't read the past pages. I was just answering that last question. But I believe that when God created things on this earth, they were a little bit different from what they are now. Animals could have evolved. But the Bible never mentions people living in caves or any other form of primitive activities. In Genesis 4, it mentions that Cain, Adam and Eve's first son, was building a city. So Just one generation went by before cities were being built.

 

[AliceinHalloweentown]

But does a city have to mean, you know, a city? Or is it more of a community?

I don't know, I just always take the science side on this for some reason... I believe God created the Universe, and with it created Earth, and with it created yadadya everything else. But I also believe he created evolution as weird as it sounds.

I take the Bible with a big grain of salt too... and I've had Christian Scriptures, and am currently in Hebrew Scriptures. For the NT and OT.

 

[Sparx]

I thought animals were ccreated before man.. and who's to judge what "a day" means. For all we know that could be millions of years.
Why is it impossible for dinosaurs to have never met man?
Another thing, why can't creationism and evolutionism coexist, using the logic I stated before?

because dinosaurs went extinct sixty four million years before humans began to exist.

 

[AliceinHalloweentown]

because dinosaurs went extinct sixty four million years before humans began to exist.

I know, I said why is it impossible for man to have never met dinosaur.
Meaning, it is possible that they never met. Because that's what I believe.
Sorry for the confusion, I most definitely believe they didn't coexist.

 

[HouseMD1120]

But does a city have to mean, you know, a city? Or is it more of a community?

I don't know, I just always take the science side on this for some reason... I believe God created the Universe, and with it created Earth, and with it created yadadya everything else. But I also believe he created evolution as weird as it sounds.

I take the Bible with a big grain of salt too... and I've had Christian Scriptures, and am currently in Hebrew Scriptures. For the NT and OT.

I think of everything in the Bible as truth... so I think its a city.

because dinosaurs went extinct sixty four million years before humans began to exist.

Oh dear i just love how people think that the world is 64 million years old. IF the world is falling apart so fast right now, I don't see how it could have lasted 64 million years before falling apart.

 

[AliceinHalloweentown]

I think of everything in the Bible as truth... so I think its a city.



Oh dear i just love how people think that the world is 64 million years old. IF the world is falling apart so fast right now, I don't see how it could have lasted 64 million years before falling apart.

See- but eveyrthing's open to interpretation as words get substituted. It's not always a bad thing but instead of a city, like say, Jerusalem, it could have been a "city" of a few people, building and learning together.

And I'm pretty sure it has to do with the way we are evolving to become dependent on technology... 64 million years ago they weren't emitting the amount of harmful chemicals and gases we are today. 64 million years ago they weren't over populated. Heck, 64 million years ago there would have been 1 supercontinent and tons of water and ocean water.
Point blank: we're using up our resources and being careless with what's left.

 

[Sparx]

I think of everything in the Bible as truth... so I think its a city.



Oh dear i just love how people think that the world is 64 million years old. IF the world is falling apart so fast right now, I don't see how it could have lasted 64 million years before falling apart.

the earth is much older than sixty four million years... the earth has been through more than a dozen ice ages, and a dozen warming periods. the earth is not falling apart. that is simply humans thinking that we are much less inferior than we truely are.
humans have been alive for almost a million years, which is a little more than a minute if we were to convert the time that the earth has been around to a 24 hour clock.
505 million years ago, the first invertebrate organisms formed. there is more to life on earth than just our few years on this planet.

They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."
-Gerald Massey, Egyptologist