Religion.

[chisnpeke]

Some of these posts actually make me glad that none of my immediate family are religious

Anyways I actually have a question for ya'll.
In history we were discussing religion and our teacher asked us if any of us were religious. One of the girls came out with well i'm half catholic. Now forgive me but i thought that religion is something you choose to follow and believe and is not inherited in the same way nationality is. I could see how if a child was born into a say mormon family they would be raised up to follow the religion but it's still not really inheritance and should that child choose to leave that religion and convert to christianity then would they really be half mormon?
See that's my way of thinking but as our over-enthusiastic RS teacher said different people think in different ways.

I don't understand why that person would say they are half-Catholic. You're either Catholic or you're not. If a person was born Mormon and raised Mormon and then changed their religion, I don't think they are considered Mormon anymore. I think you just have one religion, or you are nondenominational. You can't be half this and half that, it just doesn't make sense. There is this girl in one of my classes...her dad is Jewish but she is Christian. She goes on about how she is half Jewish....ok so do you practice Judaism along with Christianity? It just doesn't make sense to me at all. I think people often get nationality confused with religion.

 

[AbsoluteAwesome1]

I have a question for you guys (not trying to offend anyone).

What do you guys think of those very very conservative religious people? You know, the people who don't cut their hair and wear very conservative dresses or long skirts. Something like how the FLDS polygamists in texas dress.

So, what are your opinions about them?

My cousins are orthodox Jews.
Very orthodox.
So I don't have any problem with it.
In fact, sometimes I think that the Jewish faith makes just as much sense as Christianity. The only difference is that they didn't believe that Jesus was the son of God. They believe he existed, oh yes. Even that he was an important prophet -- just not the Messiah.
Really, I know quite a bit about the Jewish faith because of them...lol.
My aunt was actually born into a Lutheran family but chose to convert to being Jewish after meeting my uncle.

 

[CrazyChik]

I don't understand why that person would say they are half-Catholic. You're either Catholic or you're not. If a person was born Mormon and raised Mormon and then changed their religion, I don't think they are considered Mormon anymore. I think you just have one religion, or you are nondenominational. You can't be half this and half that, it just doesn't make sense. There is this girl in one of my classes...her dad is Jewish but she is Christian. She goes on about how she is half Jewish....ok so do you practice Judaism along with Christianity? It just doesn't make sense to me at all. I think people often get nationality confused with religion.

That's my way of thinking too.
=]

 

[marypops!]

QUESTION TIME!

This is for anyone really. Are you a deontologist/Absolute Morality (you have a system of moral rules, etc. 10 Commandments, that they hold and then apply these to a given situation) or are you a consequentialist/Relative Morality (you don't apply rules to a situation but rather decide on what end result they want and follow the actions that reach this result)

Some random situations.

Your plane has just crashed into the Andes and you're stranded with no food. Because of this, you're left with the choice of either eating the passengers who were killed in the crash or to not eat them, but starve to death.

A group of terrorists have captured you and have said they will kill you if you don't tell them where a family member/friend is. Would you not tell them and risk being killed, or do you tell them to save you're own life?

(got these from this little thing we did about morals in RS)

 

[MrsSparrow..]

I agree with the "your not catholic" unless you've been baptized yourself and follow the religion and whatever. BUT...

I'm catholic, but that wasn't my choice. I was a baby, I was taken to a church, I was baptised and then that was it. I haven't been "confirmed" which most catholic teenagers my age are doing now. So am I catholic or not now? Technically I am, but I choose to be an atheist and I am not making any more "sacraments".

So I'm like what, half catholic?! If people ask I usually just say I'm an UnConfirmedCatholicWithAntiCatholicViews.

Ack. I dunno. I s'pose im catholic.

-Ashleigh

 

[CrazyChik]

QUESTION TIME!

This is for anyone really. Are you a deontologist/Absolute Morality (you have a system of moral rules, etc. 10 Commandments, that they hold and then apply these to a given situation) or are you a consequentialist/Relative Morality (you don't apply rules to a situation but rather decide on what end result they want and follow the actions that reach this result)

Some random situations.

Your plane has just crashed into the Andes and you're stranded with no food. Because of this, you're left with the choice of either eating the passengers who were killed in the crash or to not eat them, but starve to death.

A group of terrorists have captured you and have said they will kill you if you don't tell them where a family member/friend is. Would you not tell them and risk being killed, or do you tell them to save you're own life?

(got these from this little thing we did about morals in RS)

1. Find any food on the island i can and then eat the decaying passengers
2. If i could get away with it i'd lie, if i couldn't i'd tell them where they were.

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

In the first situation, I would seek help, if we are trapped for good. Then I would die.

In the second situation. I would die.

 

[marypops!]

you know, the Andes is a Mountain Range in South America... So you're trapped on top of a mountain with little to no vegetation...

Then there's the stress of being held, probably with a gun pointing at your head, that if you tried to lie, you might say the truth...

Yeah, my answers would probably be what I just said there (except with the first question, I would go looking for food at first, when I found none, I probably would eat them...)

 

[CrazyChik]

you know, the Andes is a Mountain Range in South America... So you're trapped on top of a mountain with little to no vegetation...

Then there's the stress of being held, probably with a gun pointing at your head, that if you tried to lie, you might say the truth...

Yeah, my answers would probably be what I just said there (except with the first question, I would go looking for food at first, when I found none, I probably would eat them...)

Mountain, island same difference.
We do a lot of these questions in school, they make you think but i guess you'd never really know the answer until you were put in the situation.

 

[Ampris]

I read a story in Readers' Digest where that very scenario happened. The men DID resort to cannibalism, but one of them was able to get help by climbing down the mountain-- with the energy he got from eating the humann flesh. It sort of adds a different angle to that story.

What if you had to eat the ones that died to save the survivors? Would that change your opinion?

 

[marypops!]

Yeah, the first scenario did happen. Coincidently, when we done this, a TV Show on Nat Geo called Trapped was starting the same day and the first epiode was about it...

 

[HSMndLKfan92]

George, I'm a utilitarian. If you don't know what that means / don't care to look it up, I evaluate every situation & choose the outcome with the best benefits for the greater good.

 

[BabyPiglet]

1)

I probably couldn't bring myself to eat decaying humans. I don't know if it's morals or just physical inability. Of course, I'm saying this while in a relaxed, controlled enviroment. Who knows what my state of mind would be.

2)

I'm not that noble or brave, I'd end up telling them where to find the people. I wouldn't want to of course, but the thought of being tortured and killed would force me too, even if there was just a little chance that I'd survive. It might depend on when this happened in my lifetime also, I suppose. But right now, I say I'd tell them.

I don't know what this all means, but I guess it means I'm only human.

 

[Disney.Ears]

TO GEORGE:

1.) I would starve to death.
2.) I would be killed.

I agree with the "your not catholic" unless you've been baptized yourself and follow the religion and whatever. BUT...

I'm catholic, but that wasn't my choice. I was a baby, I was taken to a church, I was baptised and then that was it. I haven't been "confirmed" which most catholic teenagers my age are doing now. So am I catholic or not now? Technically I am, but I choose to be an atheist and I am not making any more "sacraments".

So I'm like what, half catholic?! If people ask I usually just say I'm an UnConfirmedCatholicWithAntiCatholicViews.

Ack. I dunno. I s'pose im catholic.

-Ashleigh

You're not getting married? That's considered a sacrament.
And you're not "half-catholic". You can just tell people that you were born Catholic yet that's not what you choose to follow.

 

[Nomi]

1) Your plane has just crashed into the Andes and you're stranded with no food. Because of this, you're left with the choice of either eating the passengers who were killed in the crash or to not eat them, but starve to death.

(are we assuming that the manditory first aid kits with survival rations are missing?)
Not at first, no. But starvation does make people desperate, and it is impossible for me to say what I would do in a desperate situation. I have to say it would be a possibility.

2) A group of terrorists have captured you and have said they will kill you if you don't tell them where a family member/friend is. Would you not tell them and risk being killed, or do you tell them to save you're own life?

No, I wouldn't tell them. I would pretend to be dead if possible.

 

[HSMndLKfan92]

Your plane has just crashed into the Andes and you're stranded with no food. Because of this, you're left with the choice of either eating the passengers who were killed in the crash or to not eat them, but starve to death.

If they died, I'd probably end up eating whatever I could - try to keep the rest of us alive, right?

A group of terrorists have captured you and have said they will kill you if you don't tell them where a family member/friend is. Would you not tell them and risk being killed, or do you tell them to save you're own life?

I'd keep my mouth shut.

 

[marypops!]

it's funny that we all seem to be half and half in Moral...

 

[BabyPiglet]

it's funny that we all seem to be half and half in Moral...

That's just part of being human.

 

[marypops!]

yup

I have an exam on RS on Wednesday, so this thread is helpful (especially since one of the topics is Religion & Science )

 

[CrazyChik]

yup

I have an exam on RS on Wednesday, so this thread is helpful (especially since one of the topics is Religion & Science )

Aww that sounds so much cooler than our RS exam, which would've been christianity and judiasm had we picked it. The short course is all about stuff like gay marriage and human rights etc. It sounds great and there's no exam for it but silly me opted to use the lesson for a german GCSE.