Regarding the Footage of the Woman Beating the Child in the Parking Lot of Kohl's...

[BrerMom]

Unbelievable. That mother has some serious issues with displaced anger.

 

[disfanatiks]

This video actually made our local news here last night. (Jacksonville, FL) I was so shocked and disturbed when I saw this.

Oh, I hope they find this poor child soon....

 

[sgtdisney]

Here is a link to NBC news if you want to see the video online. It is horrifying to think that any person could hurt a child like that, especially the child's parent. What a heartless, evil woman. I hope they catch her and soon.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/810533.asp?0dm=N14RN

 

[KarenB]

My 14 year old DS, 12 year old DS, and I were watching the news before school this morning. We were just talking and all of a sudden the video came on...It made me sick!!!! I wish they would have warned the viewers that it was graphic before they showed it. My kids were really upset by it.

Anyway....DS (14 yr old) came home from school and asked if anyone found this little girl. He said he was thinking about the video all day at school

Karen

 

[disfanatiks]

CNN is saying that she is going to turn herself in tomorrow. Let's just hope that the little girl is found and taken away from that family that would not help her....

 

[shortbun]

Hitting anyone for any reason except your life/body
being in jeopardy is not acceptable IMHO.
IMHO, parents who hit their children are too
lazy to spend the time to make the difference
when a good solid spanking can do the same thing.
It's the easiest thing to do-no doubt. I've been
tempted to deliver a swat now and then but thank
goodness peace and the desire to
parent with patience and love have prevailed.
Spanking does nothing but dull the spirit and I
want my ds's spirit to be alive and joyful!
NOW...
this woman who beat her daughter like that is
mentally ill. Her daughter will need years of patient
love and nurturing to get over the loss of trust she
should have had with her mother. I've stopped a few
people from hurting their children in public. I've always
wondered what they do in their homes away from
prying eyes if they are willing to hit their children in
public. This woman didn't even know where she was-
horrific!

 

[slimplaw]

This mother was arrested in the Ft. Worth area for theft in the last year and there is currently a warrant out for her arrest here. It is believed she is a member of a group called the Travelers. They apparently are very protective of each other and have been involved in many scams and other illegal activities. I believe one of the national news shows did a story on the group years ago. They are not exclusive to the Texas area. A few years ago 5 or 6 teenage Traveler boys were killed in an accident and the police had an awful time sorting out names and ages because of the aliases used. They received no cooperation from the family members because they are so closed mouth about each other.

 

[KimRaye]

We did get a warning of the graphic, disturbing nature and, DD was in the room, distracted thankfully until, I gasped!! And, she said, "what Mommy?". I said 'nothing' and, hugged her.

Made me sick. & mad!!

 

[Lars624]

I heard on the news that this woman has 2 other children. All 3 of these kids need to be protected! I hope that she really does turn herself in today.
It always amazes me that in this country you need a license to catch a fish or buy a dog but any idiot can be a parent.

 

[Goofyposter]

but maybe when they find her, they can strap her in a car and let someone 4 times her size beat on her for 20 seconds.

I'm available for that assignment!

 

[Lars624]

I totally agree....but may I correct one thing, my friend.....THIS WOMAN IS NOT A PARENT!!!!! she is a monster.


Jennifer.....I stand corrected...you are 100% right about that!

 

[aahmom1]

I don't even think they need to get her in a car seat, just leave her alone in a room full of real Mothers and let us take care of her. I pray they catch her and help that baby.

 

[A kid at heart]

I hope the family who is protecting her gets in trouble as well.

 

[Lars624]

Shouldn't anyone who is covering for her be considered an accessory?

*could someone explain to me how to do the quote from another post...I can't figure it out*

 

[Serena]

Lars, you highlight it, go to edit and click copy, then do you see the quote button right under where it says color, you click it, then you paste, then you click the button that says "Close all Tags". And you're done.

*could someone explain to me how to do the quote from another post...I can't figure it out*

 

[Lars624]

Originally posted by jldriscoll
Hit the quote button above the post reply button.

And yes they I think they should!!! That poor girl. I'm not a HEH, by any means, but I'd like to see this whole family prosecuted and the children put in a safe loving home!!!

Thanks Jennifer & Serena...I think I've got it

 

[Chattyaholic]

between "spanking" a child and "beating" a child. I, for one, am in favor of spanking. I received many spankings while growing up, and they were all justified. My husband and I spanked our own two children when they were young. I believe in God and He condones spanking, as it states in the Bible "spare the rod and spoil the child." We didn't have problems with our children that some of today's parents have who don't believe in spanking. I work in a restaurant and see out of control kids all the time, but the parent just says "No, no Johnny, we don't do that here."....blah....blah....blah..... I also think that if spanking was still allowed in school there wouldn't be the problems there are. But kids know the teacher/principal can't touch them. We saw a father and his two young children ahead of us in line at a fast food restaurant recently and the boy was definitely acting up. The father told him to stop and he put up with it for a couple of minutes, but then knelt down and swatted him, just once, on the butt. The kid straightened right up. I applaud him for taking control, and not worrying that someone was going to step in and try to prevent him from parenting. Like I said, there is a difference between a "spanking" and a "beating." I don't condone beating, but a swat on the butt is not a beating. What that poor little girl in the video got was definitely a "beating" and I do hope the child is taken away from the mother when they catch up to her, and I pray the little girl wasn't seriously hurt.

 

[musicfan]

Just wanted to let you know, though, that you CAN achieve a well-behaved child without spanking. My now 16-year-old son is a thoughtful and extremely responsible (and well-behaved) teennager. I spanked him exactly once, and was overcome with horrible guilt and remorse for that one "swat" -- I felt the full impact of what it means for a full-grown adult to "get the attention of" a child by hitting it. I was spanked regularly as a child and to this day I can't imagine how my mother managed to do it.

 

[SueM in MN]

In the case of the woman in the video, it was definately a beating. It's hard to see, but it looks like she was trying to avoid hitting places that would make visible bruises. It looks like she was hitting the little girl on the head, under her hair where bruises would not show. I can't understand how anyone who saw that video could protect her.

I know this isn't the debate board, but I had to agree it is very possible to raise a polite, considerate and in-control child without spanking. My DDs are 20 and 17 and have not been spanked. They knew from early on that there were consequences to their actions. In the case of waiting in a fast food restaurant line, my kids knew what behavior was expected. If they did something other than that, they got one warning and after that the consequence was no fast food restaurant. If there are consistent consequences that "fit the crime", kids learn what behavior is acceptable and what isn't.
"The rod" I used was the shepherd's rod that was used to guide the sheep along the right path, not to hit them.
My oldest said it's a whole different mindset knowing that you are disappointing someone, which was what she took from the disipline she got. She takes the idea of "would this disappoint my parents?" with her where ever she goes even now. I was spanked as a child (not often) and what I took from the spankings was "how do I not get caught next time." The other types of discipline I got made much more of an impression on me and made me think about what I was doing and the consequences of my actions, not just the punishment I would get if caught.

 

[bumcat]

I'm still waiting for my kids to give me a reason to spank them. They are 19,16 and 8. Never a problem. They too know what is expected of them. But they have also told me that I look demonic when I get angry so maybe that mean look on my face keeps them straight! LOL! My brother and sister spank their kids for everything and have been for years, it's funny they have to be spanked over and over for the same thing. Most of the time my kids do not need to be told more than once or twice (no spanking involved) and they get the message loud and clear.