Refuse to give Disney your Finger-print?

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Eh what do I care? The FBI has a large file on me all ready. :confused3

But seriously, I am hugely aware of big brother and this finger scan isn't even a blip on my radar.
 
Same here.
I find that pretty odd.
I've never even thought about it before and I don't care. I haven't committed any crimes so I don't care if they have my fingerprint or not.

This is exactly why people should read through threads before posting. I think it was established in the first few pages that they don't scan fingerprints and the VOLUNTARY procedure has nothing to do with criminal background checks. Yet it seems this is still what most of the comments are implying. :confused3
 
The way our goverment abuses its power, I would not put it past them to demand Disney turn this info over to them much as they have the telephone companies and you know what happened there. I really don't mind it though due to my understanding no real finger print is taken. If one was I too would object. Absolute power correcepts absolutely and this admininstration has proven it time and time again....smjj

ITA... and honestly, how do we really know what those finger readers do? After all, electronic voting machines are supposed to be accurate, but they're often not... electronic gagetry has been proven to be pretty easily manipulated. I'm not trying to make a huge controversy here, like ppers have suggested, but why should I believe that this scanner is not taking my fingerprint?

<waiting for tin foil hat comments to commence>

Even if it is only taking the measurements, like others have said, its just another piece of my personal info stored somewhere (even if only for 30 days) that could wind up in the hands of evil-doers.
 

I am sorry if some of you are willing to take a WDW vacation with a terrorist or someone that is on the FBI's most wanted list. Don't you think that Disney's fingerprint scan is connected to a data bank to alert them if a wanted criminal is trying to enter the park?
Would you like to ride with someone like that or think your child is on a ride with them???
Safety is a big part of the fingerprint scanning.
Like it or not the fingerprinting is for everyones best interest.
If you don't like the fingerprinting go to Six flags.
I also agree that if the reason for not wanting to fingerprint is so that the OP can sell their tickets on ebay, Then SHAME ON YOU!!!!

So if you opt out of the voluntary scan, in addition to being a felon you are now trying to resell your tickets!! LOL

Are you kidding? We are at WDW fpr anywhere from 10-20 days each trip. There is nothing left on our tickets by the end of the trip and if there was, we would add on the no expiration option and save them for next time.:thumbsup2
 
First of all, I think Disney portrays the fingerscan to be mandatory. Just because they accomodate a few troublemakers doesn't change the spirit of the requirement.

The problem that I have with people who are unwilling to comply is that it could hit ME in the pocketbook. The reason my 5th and sixth days at Disney are so cheap is because they have a system in place that protects people from sharing tickets. Some folks want the discount, but not the rules that go with it. People refusing the scan should pay the single day price for each day of their ticket.

That being said, people DO have the choice not to be "scanned", but Disney should have the right to refuse entry. Going to Disney but only following the rules you choose is NOT your "constitutional right."

You are incorrect. Call WDW and inquire. They will tell you very clearly that scans are voluntary and they should you decide to opt out you should have your ID ready in the event a CM requests to see it at the gate.
 
It made all kinds of sense to me!! Disney's rules no not "clearly" allow you to opt out of the finger scan. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, in this case. People who opt out of the finger scan should pay the full one day price for each day of a multi-day ticket.

LOL :lmao:

Well you better call WDW and tell them that their current policy is wrong and that your way would be much better. Good luck with that:thumbsup2
 
You are incorrect. Call WDW and inquire. They will tell you very clearly that scans are voluntary and they should you decide to opt out you should have your ID ready in the event a CM requests to see it at the gate.

Yes this is the rules and not a problem that most are making it out to be.

I had a problem with the old system because of a broken finger (no longer and issue with the 1finger scans). I was asked a few times for ID but as my name was on my KTTK is was a quick match.

My only concerns are that the CMs are again not doing their job (mug refills ,heely's,smoking)as they don't want to offend a guest and get a write-up. This will allow people to resell their tickets just like before.

This has nothing to do with the OP for still following the rulesas they are under the current rules of whats allowed. This should infact slow the OP and others up ,but it is not because of the CMs not doing their job.

I also know that many CM here on the boards are sticklers for the rules and do all they can to make sure they are enforced but they are few and far between.

Like I said before if they want to do it for security reasons they could very easy have face reconition cameras set up just like they do at Vegas and other places.This is something you can't really get around except to go in a full mask.
 
You know that Bob Iger and Rush Limbaugh are very good friends and have each other over for dinner parties. mmmmmmm And Rush and Dick Cheney are good friends. mmmmmm


this thing is just getting deeper and deeper.
 
I believe you are correct about the policy. However, it was worded to me that a CM "MAY" ask to see ID if you opt out of the scan.

Since the new scanners were implemented we have entered the parks I would estimate at somewhere around 50 times. One time we had a CM ask for our ID which we always have at the ready,(he also wanted to argue the politics behind the scans as he looked at our ID's, though we did not take the bait to argue and just ignored his prodding..lol) and one other time a CM had to get a Manager becuase she just did not know what to do. Each of the other times, the CM just pushed a button and we walked right through.


Personally, I think that not putting your finger in the scanner is just a way of saying " I'm not going to follow your rules, because I just dont feel like it"
Maybe some day they will actually make a rule where you cannot get in with out putting your finger in the scanner. Now THAT would be sad.
 
Besides, we get through the turnstyles more quickly refusing than those folks who actually put their fingers in the scanners.

Just wonder how THAT is possible. In your original post you said sometimes the CM just lets you thru, sometimes they call a manager over. By the time the manager is located and walks down to your entrance,I KNOW there NOT always handy. The manager talks to you even if he says "come on in" and lets all of your party in ..they still scan your tickets to keep track of days left etc plus if you have to have your ID ready and put it back when thru as you stated you have your ID ready in case a CM requests it.... It takes me all of 3-5 seconds to put my ticket in and scan my fingers...no dialouge with the cm except maybe hello..and I am in. This way HAS to be much quicker. I am on Splash Mountain while your still waiting for the manager LOL....
 
Personally, I think that not putting your finger in the scanner is just a way of saying " I'm not going to follow your rules, because I just dont feel like it"
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This is just silly. I am following the rules by having my ID ready as I inform the CM in a quiet and polite fashion that I am opting out.

The notion that those who decline are somehow not following the rules is a baseless assertion.
 
I have not previously seen a thread about this, which kind of suprises me.

Just wondering in general how people feel about giving your finger-print each time you enter one of the Disney theme parks.

I just personally, find this so objectionable. No person in our family has EVER given in to this practice and allowed our finger to be scanned in order to enter one of the parks.

I know Disney's official statement is that they do not take the actual finger-print, but rather a "digital picture" of the finger-print. As much as I love Disney, I cannot get comfortable with allowing them to take a digital picture of my finger-print. So we NEVER participate. Not the old way they did it with the measuring of two fingers or the new way where they actually take a digital scan of the finger-print.

Suprisingly, we have only ever had to argue with a CM about this one time. They called their manager over (at our request) who informed the CM we could enter without putting our finger in the scanner. But every other time the CM just smiles, pushes a button, and in we go.

I am not a big fan of the ACLU, but I know they have taken a vocal position against this Disney practice.

Anybody else refuse to do it? Ever had a problem refusing? Interested in knowing how other Dis'ers feel about the subject.

This isn't the ACLU's business. A private entity has the right to require fingerprints.

What is the big deal? Why would you refuse?
 
Personally with a love one serving in Iraq and worrying about whether or not my college bound kids will get shot in class, I've pretty much got bigger concerns than what disney does with my finger scan. They are just trying to curb park ticket abuse.


Good point! If only all you had to worry about was a finger scan, life would be easier, wouldnt it?
 
Just wonder how THAT is possible. In your original post you said sometimes the CM just lets you thru, sometimes they call a manager over. By the time the manager is located and walks down to your entrance,I KNOW there NOT always handy. The manager talks to you even if he says "come on in" and lets all of your party in ..they still scan your tickets to keep track of days left etc... It takes me all of 3-5 seconds to put my ticket in and scan my fingers...no dialouge with the cm except maybe hello..and I am in. This way HAS to be much quicker. I am on Splash Mountain while your still waiting for the manager LOL....not REALLY but you see what I am saying.

What I actually said was that of the 50 or more times we have declined, a manager was called once because the CM did not know what to do. This delayed me alll of 90 seconds or less. One other time a CM actually asked to see ID.

There are 4-5 of us in our party. Usually we are ALL in the park in the same time it takes one or two people next to us to make it while doing the scan.

Of course there are various scenarios that affect this, and getting through 10-30 seconds quicker has nothing to do with declining the scan. Even if it took a few seconds longer (which is does not) we would still have our ID's ready, in accordance with WDW policy, and opt out of the finger scans.
 
Ah, but they do have, in their opinion, a just cause and that is to prevent illegal use of someone else's tickets therefore depriving them of income needed to continue to run the parks. On many levels I disagree with this because I always feel that after I have paid them for the ticket it is my property and if I want someone else to use it, that is my business. That, however, is a completely different thread.

What it boils down to is entitlement. For some reason you feel above the rules and even though this isn't an attempt to catch you of committing fraud, you object to them making you do something that is below your status and dignity. Even though I object to their reason for doing the scan, I do understand why they do it and even though it is self serving for Disney, in a way it protects you as well. If it were common knowledge that this was OK, then your tickets would be prime targets for thieves and others that would profit from acquiring your tickets. As it is now, the threat of being caught at the gate is a pretty good deterrent.

I'm glad that you feel that you are above the rules that apply to the rest of us. Putting the CM in a position of deciding that the rules don't apply to you, risking their job because they have also been told to "let it go" instead of confronting an unreasonable guest, then why not do it.

Would someone speed on the highways because they don't agree with the posted limit? Take things from stores because they don't agree with the "no shoplifting" rule? Could they do those things and still maintain that they were just above that sort of thing? I don't think so, and I feel that this is pretty much the same thing.

Sorry but the "just cause I don't wanna" reason is not a good one, in my opinion.


I totally agree, and because this finger scan is supposed to keep a thief from stealing your tickets and trying to use them to gain entry to the park, I would think that no one would object. I just hope these people never become a victim of park ticket theivery (is that a word? ha ha)
 
A nation of non-thinkers? Silly to give ourselves up to "big brother"? Where does that come into play? So anyone who puts their finger on a thing that doesn't even take a picture or your fingerprint or whatever is a non-thinker?

That's just not fair. I call it not being dumb enough to believe everything you read on the internet and concentrating on -real- problems.

It's disney. world. I'm not sure why people keep bringing the government subject in, and look at what this dinky little machine actually -does-.

*edited for spelling*
 
ITA... and honestly, how do we really know what those finger readers do?

I know exactly what they do. The scanners sprinkle me with pixie dust and allow me to enter a magical fantasyland where I leave my worries behind me and I know that I am about to have a Disney day. I actually don't care what they do with my fingerprint.
 
I would like to offer a different view on why I am unwilling to give my fingerprints. I am an Australian citizen and to my knowledge have never had my fingerprints taken. I used to work at Parliament House (White House equivalent for the Americans) and they never took my print to get a security pass. I have nothing to hide in my past to incriminate me, but as an Australian I don't want another country's government to have my prints. I know it is just Disney but I don't know where my prints are going to end up. I realise that I am going to be called paranoid by most people on the board, but if any Americans here wan't to go to another country are you happy with the idea of them having your prints?

If you had been reading, you would realize that Disney doesn't record your actual prints, but a reading of certain points on your prints. There is no way to transfer that reading to produce the actual prints. Basically, all the print scan does is enable them to get a number that can be compared to another print scan from the same type of machine.
 
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