Refuse to give Disney your Finger-print?

[TheRustyScupper]

1) I guess some people have something to hide.
2) The biometrics is not a fingerprint.
3) But, those who feel guilty (or ARE guilty) would certainly object.

 

[DianeV]

Why must someone who values their privacy in any way they choose automatically hiding something, guilty of something, a terrorist, paranoid, a tin hat wearer, or whatever else some have come up with?

The OP stated how they feel and wanted to let it be known that it is optional (which obviously many dont know) I dont see it as asking to be called names and accused of being a criminal

Why are people so mean and judgmental?

 

[TheDisneyClan]

So you are saying that if you don't want to be finger scanned you should cut off your hands....

Why would I say that? Since the finger scans are VOLUNTARY all one needs to do is speak up at the gate and....... presto in to the park they go..Hands and all!

 

[smjj]

Boy this thread has taken off but one important issue is being left behind. The fingerprint is not for safety or security. It is not cross referenced with anything. Even though I have issues with it as I earlier stated I still submit to it. The finger scan is for one reason and one reason only. To verify the person who used the ticket the first time is the one who uses it the last time. It is to cut down on tickets being sold or heaven forbid one family member letting another member use it. Having said that there has got to be a better way to accomplish this other than the current method. This info can be compromised or stolen. There is not a day goes by where you read about a computer hacker breaking in and stealing this type of info or a laptop being misplaced with all kinds of personel data on it. This is what I fear more than Disney misusing this info. Add for those who are critical of others who object, why are you so hard on them. It is important to want to protect ones security and guard it. To assume they have something to hide is just wrong, wrong and wrong and very closed minded..smjj

 

[WillCAD]

It is kind of silly to keep using the VA and the TSA as horrible examples of what can happen to your information. Nothing came of the VA incident. I was notified that my info was on the stolen laptop, and then was notified that the laptops were recovered without a breech of the information. If you are going to site examples...site some where something negative happened.

Something negative DID happen. Laptops with tens of thousands of peoples' personal info were lost or stolen, laptops which were not supposed to have that info on them in the first place. The fact that the government claims that the info was not breached does not negate the fact that they are putting sensitive info onto laptops and then the laptops are getting lost or stolen. How many more laptops out there have sensitive info on them and are being left on tables at Starbucks while some idiot public servant goes to the john?

I'll draw another analogy - were you livid when Michael Jackson dangled his baby over a balcony? Nothing happened, the kid was perfectly fine. But the huge level of risk alone was enough to cause serious concern for anybody who saw it. Same thing with the laptops; maybe no data was compromised this time, but the sheer level of risk alone makes the whole incident deeply disturbing to those of us whose personal info resides in the VA or TSA computers. mnext time we might not be so lucky, so we better take steps to reduce this risk before it happens again.

I still would like someone to explain how the fingercheck used by Disney could be used to gain access to any other information?

I have read the thread so keep your little superior postings to yourself.

I was responding to the point regarding writing a letter to the Mortgage company, you may have had to go further but that was not in the post I responded to.

The point regarding worse than DNA(my risght arm to enter Disney) was in jest but I was not getting a similar tone from you.

With regard to losing $5000 from your bank account I know Disney has credit card and adress information but just where does the finger scan help the fraudster?

For an exact, specific enumeration of WHY I dislike the finger scan, see my post #76 at the top of Page 6 in this thread. I'm not being superior, I'm just saying, I already answered that question at least twice already - see my previous posts for the answer.

1) I guess some people have something to hide.
2) The biometrics is not a fingerprint.
3) But, those who feel guilty (or ARE guilty) would certainly object.

1) Completely correct - I do have something to hide - it's called MY RIGHT TO PRIVACY. Don't you? If not, post your name, address and phone number on the open boards. I bet you won't - because you value your privacy. And so do I.

2) Maybe not, but it is undeniably a piece of data that can be used to identify a specific person. It doesn't matter if it's a fingerprint or a series of 1s and 0s that represent a fingerprint, or a sample of DNA - it's a unique identifier that points to a specific person.

3) WRONG. I don't feel guilty of anything - but I dislike having my privacy impinged upon. How would you like it if I read your diary or peeked into your windows? Both are invasions of your privacy, and so is the fingerscan, albiet to a lesser extent.

 

[lillielil]

I don't have a problem with giving someone my fingerprint even if it is recorded and cross-referenced. My fingerprints get on everything anyway, and if someone really wanted them... well, I don't wear rubber gloves at all times. Also, a fingerprint isn't used the same way that a SSN, a home address, a telephone number, a maiden name, or even a mother's maiden name are used.

I used to work at the DOS. I gave them my fingerprint (and pretty much every other piece of information about me. I almost felt like I should be turning over my colonoscopy prints!). Did anything bad happen to my info then? No. What did happen, is that my identity was stolen by someone who I had been dating for five years. She used my address (and this is while we were still living together, so it was hers as well), my name, my mother's maiden name (of course she knew it - she knew my mom!), and even my SSN (which she had memorized - not that I thought it was a big deal, I still have hers memorized) and opened a credit card on which she rang up several thousand dollars worth of charges. I had no recourse, since she used information which I had given her willingly.

Fingerprints are the last of my worries.

 

[want2bamommy]

I have not previously seen a thread about this, which kind of suprises me.

Just wondering in general how people feel about giving your finger-print each time you enter one of the Disney theme parks.

I just personally, find this so objectionable. No person in our family has EVER given in to this practice and allowed our finger to be scanned in order to enter one of the parks.

I know Disney's official statement is that they do not take the actual finger-print, but rather a "digital picture" of the finger-print. As much as I love Disney, I cannot get comfortable with allowing them to take a digital picture of my finger-print. So we NEVER participate. Not the old way they did it with the measuring of two fingers or the new way where they actually take a digital scan of the finger-print.

Suprisingly, we have only ever had to argue with a CM about this one time. They called their manager over (at our request) who informed the CM we could enter without putting our finger in the scanner. But every other time the CM just smiles, pushes a button, and in we go.

I am not a big fan of the ACLU, but I know they have taken a vocal position against this Disney practice.

Anybody else refuse to do it? Ever had a problem refusing? Interested in knowing how other Dis'ers feel about the subject.

I have never thought of objecting to it nor would would I ever. That's just me though.

Missie

 

[jimmalru80]

Heck, if Disney wants some of my DNA upon entering the park I'd give it to them. I'm just happy to be there.

Our family agrees 100%.

 

[FayeW]

Is it just me, or is the very fact that Disney has to go to such trouble and expense to make sure some poor schmo doesn't sell his left over tickets a testament to how outrageously overpriced they are to begin with??

If they were reasonably priced it wouldn't be an issue. Oh well, I bought non-expiry passes and I will spend our tickets wisely to get 2-3 visits out of them. I don't really care if they scan my finger.

 

[PrincessCastMember]

Good lord, I think only criminals should be worried about it.

I completely agree. I mean...I think only people that have something to hide get upset about our ticket-tag system. Maybe people with a guilty conscience. It just creates a number that is associated with your ticket so that if you lose it, no one else could use it. So, that means if you don't use ticket tag...well, don't be surprised if the Disney folks aren't able to get your tickets back for you. If you don't use ticket-tag, it's kind of like saying, I don't mind if a random person picks up my tickets and wants to use it.

 

[LeftCoaster]

Now, I would think it odd if you were wearing camo with palm fronds on them the whole time and trying to blend in with the foliage so that you could fly under the radar (so to speak) and not be coerced into having pics taken on Main Street by those highly-questionable photo pass people (who knows what they use "those" photos for!)

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Disney ties in those photo pass pictures with the FBI to check out for criminals. That's why they went to digital photos a few years ago so they could speed up the process.

 

[canda]

:rotfl


you conspiracy kooks are funny.

freedoms and liberties have been taken away?????

because of the finger scan at WDW??????


THis has been one of the funniest boards in a long time.

mostly because the anti scan folks think they are smarter than everyone else and make such logical arguments. Then when they get an opinion they don't agree with, they go nuts and keep posting and posting.

 

[huey578]

The only I object to is touching a germ ridden finger scanner, they should wipe it after each finger.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

I completely agree. I mean...I think only people that have something to hide get upset about our ticket-tag system. Maybe people with a guilty conscience. It just creates a number that is associated with your ticket so that if you lose it, no one else could use it. So, that means if you don't use ticket tag...well, don't be surprised if the Disney folks aren't able to get your tickets back for you. If you don't use ticket-tag, it's kind of like saying, I don't mind if a random person picks up my tickets and wants to use it.

With all due respect, this is comlete nonsense.

Not one person has said they are upset with Disney for the ticket tag system because, as has been pointed out countless times, its only voluntary.

One's refusal to insert their finger into the scanner indicates nothing more than that individuals desire to use the alternate (old fashioned) system Disney has in place...Put simply, be prepared to show your identification and in to the park you go. To suggest that entering the parks in this manner (which is very much in accordance with Disney policy) means somebody is guilty of something or hiding something, is laughable.

Moreever, we have never inserted our fingers in the scanner and have lost a ticket on more than one occasion. Our resort has simply cancelled the lost ticket and issued a new resort ID.

Remember folks, the finger scanners are VOLUNTARY. Whatever your reason is, if you do not want to do it, WDW policy allows you to simply opt out by informing the CM at the gate. You should have ID ready, but we have always been polite and quiet, and have only ever been asked for ID one time.

Its voluntary. That means you do not have to do it if FOR ANY REASON at all you do not want to. This is WDW policy.

 

[mouseman41]

I find that there are just some people who really have to find something wrong about everything. I hear that the ACLU is now taking applicants.

 

[need_a_Disney_fix]

OP, please get a life. There are bigger and badder things to worry about...seriously.

 

[jekajekalynn]

I don't know if it has been pointed out yet... but has anyone even mentioned Disney does NOT scan your fingerprint when you enter the gate?


They just do that biometric deal which just measures finger width...and even the UOG book says that ppl can get past it, so what is the fuss with everyone?

 

[smjj]

OP, please get a life. There are bigger and badder things to worry about...seriously.

You could say that to 90% of the OP'er then. To take your advise, most of the threads meet your criteria. His post was just a ligit as most others here...smjj

 

[MarylandPizzaman]

OP, please get a life. There are bigger and badder things to worry about...seriously.

 

[DisneyLuv21]

You know why they want to scan your finger.

IMHO: They don't want people who used it one park and give to another person to use it for Park Hopping.

they do care if the fingers match or not.