Refillable Mugs in 2000

[Lewisc]

Disney would have to either get rid of self service drink dispensors or station armed guards if they want to stop guests from stealing soda.

I will try to explain this as best as I can. To me the term length of stay means from the day you check in, to the day you check out. Some people have said that's what is printed on the new mugs & they think that once their vacation is over those mugs are no longer good. Well to me if WDW was serious about those mugs not being good anymore then someone how they would have printed that on the mug. So in my opinon just because the mugs say length of stay, it does not mean they are no longer good because where does it say that?

 

[bicker]

Exactly, and as long as there are only a handful of violators, they won't do so.

 

[disneymom3]

Actually McDs has a refillable cup too. There is no sign there that says you cannot bring your cup back each time. Does that mean that I am allowed to bring my cup back each time since they are specifically not telling me I'm not allowed? There is no signage so I must have bought a lifetime of Coke for .99! At least by your way of thinking.

Alright!!! I am SET!

 

[TDC Nala]

Are we out of popcorn?

 

[Aimeedyan]

If it helps this is what they have printed on Allearsnet.com about the mugs:

Most of the WDW Resorts have a "Refillable Mug" program in their food court area (aka Fast Food-Counter Service). You purchase a mug for around $11.99 and are entitled to "free" or less expensive refills for the duration of your stay. The refills are available from the beverage dispensers and usually include: coffee, sodas, ice tea, and hot chocolate. No other purchase is required to get your mug or your refills.

The mugs have the hotel logo on them and signs state that they are for use at that hotel for the duration of your visit.

For an avid coffee or soda drinker, especially with the 'free' refills,
you can't beat it.

The table below outlines the refillable mugs available at the resorts and the purchase as well as refill price. Be sure to add 6% tax to the purchase price.


In that explination where does it say that those mugs are no longer good once your vacation ends. Also it does not make reference that the old mugs with no explination on them, which people think should not be used. So there is nothing there to proof that the mugs my family & I purchased at the Contemporary in January 2000 are no longer good.

Editing my post - poster says they aren't who I thought they were.

 

[jackmac]

I witnessed an interesting thing this past January. At the Boardwalk Inn a man tried to get a coffee using an old Boardwalk mug. The CM told him that the mug was not from this visit and she could not refill it. The man got angry (obviously) and said that the bakery would refill it. He then stormed out. The CM called down to the bakery to let them know that he was coming.

At the Boardwalk, since there are no self-serve filling stations, you have to bring your mug to a stand. At the stand they give you a cup of coffee or whatever, never having to dirty your mug. And yes, the mugs do say good for the duration of your stay.

 

[ADPOA Club Jester]

Let me point out to other posters on this thread that this poster is a very very young teen if I remember right (12 or 13) and she often jumps into these mug posts trying to stir the pot. There is another thread on the resort board where she has done the same thing.

I have not responded to her previously because I have taken into account her age and chose not to bite =) I know it's not easily seen in all her posts that she's that young, I just knew from reading another thread awhile back. Her mom also posts on here, I believe.

I'm NOT saying that no one should bite if they choose to do so, just informing others of her age and "reputation" on mug threads. It may not be worth it to argue with a young teen who truly doesn't make decisions about what their family will buy or not buy while there in regards to refillable mugs.

I tried to say that with all due respect to this poster, btw, and really just wanted to look out for her as she's very young on a mostly adult message board. I know we can tear each other to pieces

For the record I am 21 years old & I am a guy.

 

[ADPOA Club Jester]

Editing my post - poster says they aren't who I thought they were.

Thank for putting down the correct information of who I am.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I have to wonder why Disney now feels the need to post directly on the mug the information about the mug being good only for the length of the trip during which it was purchased. Is is because they want people to finally realize that the Disney policy has been and will remain good for the life of the trip and not your life? Disney doesn't go around hassling people, but maybe they should. CMs like to tell you what you want to hear for the most part. And more.

The mugs used to be a lot cheaper. Is that because they have to cover the costs of the program somehow? Or is it because plastic (a petroleum product) is more expensive?

Mugs are really cheap and a nice souvenier. We have several of them.

I've seen the signs from as far back as 1997 posting the mugs were only good for that trip at that location.

But I do have a water park mug that I reuse by purchasing a new daily sticker at the water park each time I bring it. And that is allowed.

 

[themudd4]

There is no such thing as lifetime anything. Rather, the mugs were previously sold with an indefinite period of time. As per the Florida statutes, Title XXXIX, Chapter 672.309(2), once Disney posted the "good only during your current visit" signs, old mugs were no longer valid.

Man I almost hate to say anything due to the fact that 9 times out of 10 I agree with you on most things. OKay, Just for the sake of attempting to settle this rotfl: that will never happen, but here goes anyway). I have flipped through my law books, and to the best of my knowledge this is what I am coming up with.
1. Please note that when I bought my mug I was not told lifetime...rather for the life of the mug. Anyway...If Disney offered the mugs on a lifetime basis or even a life of the mug basis (which I believe they did) this would have to be honored by Disney.
2. Unless the consumer was notified prior to the purchase of the initnal mug that this offer was subject to change without notice, then they must continue to offer the unlimited refills at the same resort of purchase for the duration of the mug life. (I do not say lifetime due to the fact if you drop and break your mug Disney has no obligation to replace it and you will have outlived your mug). Posting any sign, and or changing any policy with these mugs would only contain to the mugs purchased after the new policy was put into action.
Granted, I have know idea when the policy was changed...but Disney can not legally breech an agreement with the consumer. I dont know who would be willing to try to take legal action over such a minor thing...well actucally I am sure I do know alot of sue happy people who would love nothing more but that would be a hard jugdement to declare.

 

[bicker]

Sorry, but you're mistaken. Please refer to the Florida statute I mentioned.

 

[themudd4]

Sorry, but you're mistaken. Please refer to the Florida statute I mentioned.

I really dont want a debate, and the fact the I do genuinly like reading your threads I just wanted to give my 2 cents worth.
I have viewed the statute:
(2) Where the contract provides for successive performances but is indefinite in duration it is valid for a reasonable time but unless otherwise agreed may be terminated at any time by either party.
This is what I think you are referring too...correct?
It states when the performances is successive for an "indefinite duration". This is not the case in the situation of the mugs. The duration was clarified...not indefinite. (My mug was purchased as "good for the life of the mug" in my case). I know others have stated good for life etc...I think it honestly depended on the CM that sold the mug, the resort of purchase, and the year of purchase what each person was told. IMO...which only matters to me and my DH (if he knows what is good for him ), is that the mugs that were purchased by those terms are still under "contract".
Just a personal note: I have never taken my old mugs back...I only have 1 remaining mug from the life of the mug term anyway...(others were lost in a fire when lightning struck our home a couple years back.) I usually dont pay enough attention to the mugs people our filling up anyway, so I dont keep tabs on them. I am sure I will this year just so I have something to write about when I get home .
Have a great weekend!

 

[bicker]

Sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree then. The mugs were sold for an indefinite duration. The law applies. However, beyond that, the law is based on common sense and common sense applies.

 

[themudd4]

Sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree then. The mugs were sold for an indefinite duration. The law applies. However, beyond that, the law is based on common sense and common sense applies.

I was thinking the same thing about agreeing to disagree...guess we will also agree to disagree that this is also a common sence issue, since I look at it with common sence telling you that the law is not based off common sence, it is based off logic...but does not apply nor have any baring to this case.
I am glad we were able to keep this civil. I have seen this type thread go bad quickly! Once again have a great Holiday weekend. We are heading up to Holiday World & Splashin Safari Water park (In Santa Claus Indidana) for the day (where they have free unlimited soft drinks & sunblock with park admission...no mug to buy!!!) I won the tickets for the 4 of us to go...so you can't beat it!

 

[fwm]

Sorry, but you're mistaken. Please refer to the Florida statute I mentioned.

I looked up the Florida statute and did not find the subsection you mentioned.

I did find it:
672.309 Absence of specific time provisions; notice of termination.--

(1) The time for shipment or delivery or any other action under a contract if not provided in this chapter or agreed upon shall be a reasonable time.

(2) Where the contract provides for successive performances but is indefinite in duration it is valid for a reasonable time but unless otherwise agreed may be terminated at any time by either party.

(3) Termination of a contract by one party except on the happening of an agreed event requires that reasonable notification be received by the other party and an agreement dispensing with notification is invalid if its operation would be unconscionable.

Depends on what is a reasonable time. Otherwise Disney can easily terminate by posting a sign saying that mugs purchased on previous visits can't be used (reasonable notification). If they do this then the mugs should not be used.

Absent Disney taking steps to provide notice, then purchasing the mug on the understanding that it is good for future visits still controls. Putting the notice on a new mug is not notice as it is not directed to anyone else purchasing a mug.

 

[bicker]

themudd reproduced it above, in red.

 

[momandseandodisney]

You buy a mug for roughly $12 at your resort. The policy now is printed on the mugs: "Free unlimited refills from our beverage islands during the stay in which the mug was purchased". This is word for word what it says on my POP mug from 2005.
BUT, the debate is if the mugs of the past were purchased under a different "free lifetime refills at resort". I did purchase mugs when we stayed @ ASSports in 1996. Nothing is written on the mugs and what sold on us the mugs to begin with was the CM telling us "free refills at ASSports for the life of the mug". So IMO...yes they did use to have a different policy regarding how long the mugs were good for. Regardless if you plan on buying alot of drinks at your resort it is definatly worth the money, and no matter how long it is good for it is still a nice souviner!

Gottcha, does it have a bar code or somehting so it knows? not looking to cheat or anything just wondering

I know when we went to blizzard beach last year we got one, it had a bar code, and was good only for the day!

 

[bicker]

Yes, the water park mugs are even more restricted than the hotel mugs.

 

[momandseandodisney]

ok , so do the resort mugs have the bar code?

 

[fwm]

I looked up the Florida statute and did not find the subsection you mentioned.

I did find it:
672.309 Absence of specific time provisions; notice of termination.--

(1) The time for shipment or delivery or any other action under a contract if not provided in this chapter or agreed upon shall be a reasonable time.

(2) Where the contract provides for successive performances but is indefinite in duration it is valid for a reasonable time but unless otherwise agreed may be terminated at any time by either party.

(3) Termination of a contract by one party except on the happening of an agreed event requires that reasonable notification be received by the other party and an agreement dispensing with notification is invalid if its operation would be unconscionable.

Depends on what is a reasonable time. Otherwise Disney can easily terminate by posting a sign saying that mugs purchased on previous visits can't be used (reasonable notification). If they do this then the mugs should not be used.

Absent Disney taking steps to provide notice, then purchasing the mug on the understanding that it is good for future visits still controls. Putting the notice on a new mug is not notice as it is not directed to anyone else purchasing a mug.

On further consideration, I do not know that this applies. If the purchaser is told life, then there is not an absence of specific time provisions. Life is specific. I do not know that this would be considered "successive performance. Depends on how the law has been interpreted.

Either way, Disney can fix the problem if they want by providing some direction and/or notice.