Recommendations Sought: Buying 25 Add-on Points Direct

To add my two cents: we closed (i.e. the points showed up on our account - we haven't actually signed anything yet) on a 50 point add-on to Copper Creek yesterday. We had a 150 point resale (with no membership extras) at Boulder Ridge.

We added on for a few reasons:
1) 200 points has always been a longer-term target for how often we want to go
2) We are young (late 20s) - and diversifying a bit from the 2042 Boulder Ridge expiration was a priority
3) We love Wilderness Lodge
4) We did want the Membership Extras - a lot of people will suggest these aren't worth buying direct, listen to them as you likely won't make up the difference. But remember two things: a) only you can put a value on inclusion and b) everyone's situation is different.

For (b), we did some math - ~$8,800 for 50 points at CC (where we want to stay (and own with the longer expiration date) - since our # of points there is so small, we aren't too worried about the MFs). Since we wanted CC, the only alternative would be to wait 2-3 years and buy resale. At that point, maybe we save 25% (~$2,200). As of now, with the Membership Extras we get from buying the small contract direct (we already have our Member Card!!), we can save $200/pp on annual passes every year. There's two of us (for the time being), so that's $400/year. In less than six years, we make up the difference. Considering this calculation completely ignores the intrinsic value of "being included", we are really happy with our decision.

As for the 50 points vs. 25 points. With 50 points, we get three nights in a studio every year. If we play with banking/borrowing, we could get larger accommodations or more nights in a studio. First, we wanted 200 points total; second, we didn't want to NEED to bank/borrow to get value out of our purchase (we will for a specific purpose, but we are happy as can be doing 3 nights in a Copper Creek studio every year).

Finally, we had the money to make the purchase. It goes without saying here (you seem quite well informed), but we would never "stretch" our finances to buy direct or buy 50 points instead of 25 points.

Good luck with your decision making process and let me know if you have any questions!
 
Finally, we had the money to make the purchase. It goes without saying here (you seem quite well informed), but we would never "stretch" our finances to buy direct or buy 50 points instead of 25 points.

Good luck with your decision making process and let me know if you have any questions!


Thanks for your response. It seems like we think similarly. I like how you "logic-ed" it out. Adding 50 now might be a bit of a stretch, but if I do get 25, I'm hopeful this will just lead to additional add-ons down the line.
 
We bought 25 at VGF and regretted it. We wish we had got 50! We went back to get more but they were sold out. So I would go for 50.
 
I have a similar question - so I'll try it here rather than a new post... but still earning my ears so let me know if it belongs somewhere else!

I'm waiting on escrow for my first DVC purchase (200 AKV). I've got the bug big time and already looking for more ways to give DIS my money :)

The idea for the 200 points is to have enough to bring a second family with us for 1 week+ Each year (2 bdrm or 2xstudios depending on avail, usually in the 3 slowest seasons). We'll be coming from overseas so 1 big trip/year is realistic use for us - we won't be popping in for quick weekend visits.

We have 5+ extended families with 2-3 kids each that we want to take over the coming years (followed hopefully, by our own in a few more!). One thing I was really looking forward to was pool hopping with the kids. But I didn't appreciate before I bought that some of the best pools are excluded! Knowing most of the kids and families who will be coming over the years, the big water parks will be a bit 'too much' - our holidays generally will involve lots of quieter resort time - and Stormalong bay looks just perfectly paced for something extra/different on top of the AKV pools.

Also, I've never been to WDW during F&W (and do wonder whether I would even enjoy the extra rowdy crowds??) but it's likely many of our trips over the next few years will be Sept-Oct-Nov.

So, I'm wondering whether a 25-50 direct add on from BCV might be a good idea, so that every year or every second year we can split our visit and spend 1-2 nights at BCV, with a day at Stormalong with the kids and 1-2 nights for the adults at F&W.

So my questions to the DVC Brains Trust:

1) what do you think of the general idea? Prob member benefits of themselves wouldn't be worth a direct purchase for us, but adding the second resort advanced booking window where we'll be looking for 1-2 nights for 2 families during BCV, plus members benefits, may just be. Is Stormalong, beaches and cream, proximity to Epcot, BW, HS... worth it, both from points and direct purchase perspective? (I can say that AKV is a no brainer for us as a home base. We love it and the kids are all mad for animals - it would be our first choice anyway. I've also been to almost every other DVC resort, but never BCV!)

2) F&W availability generally - this is obviously a lesser consideration for the overall purchase decision - but our plan for our very first trip (already eagerly planning!) is to go for 1 week+ with another family in a 2 bed (ideally) at AKV, sometime in the three week window starting 26 Oct (this year). Depending on estoppel and closing, we will likely be just on either side of the 7 month window when our points load. What can I expect trying to book 1 week at AKV and 1-2 nights at BCV both (a) just inside and (b) just outside of the 7 month window, with flexibility to travel anytime within the 3 week window from 26 Oct? (Impossible? waitlist? Probably fine?)

3) this is an even lesser long term consideration, but not irrelevant in the short term! If I am definitely going to try for a BCV add on no matter what, in circumstances in which the very first trip I'm going for is just on the 7 month cusp, is there any chance that approaching DVC prior to closing on the AKV resale (my first and only purchase to date - I'm not yet a member), would (a) succeed in securing a 25-50 purchase before or at the very same time as my resale closing and points vesting and/or (b) even encourage Dis to speed up the whole estoppel and membership no and points loading process? (I'm guessing you'll tell me this is a completely hopeless ambition, but I have to ask!)

(I can't get over how helpful and welcoming everyone on these boards is - I feel like this is a members' benefit all its own that I get to enjoy right away. Thanks all!!)
 

I'd do AKV 25 or CC 50 unless one is looking to buy more resale points at a given resort.
 
What can I expect trying to book 1 week at AKV and 1-2 nights at BCV both (a) just inside and (b) just outside of the 7 month window, with flexibility to travel anytime within the 3 week window from 26 Oct? (Impossible? waitlist? Probably fine?)

AKV if you're flexible on view, probably fine. For BCV, waitlist, with a possibility of it not coming through.
 
I have a similar question - so I'll try it here rather than a new post... but still earning my ears so let me know if it belongs somewhere else!

I'm waiting on escrow for my first DVC purchase (200 AKV). I've got the bug big time and already looking for more ways to give DIS my money :)

The idea for the 200 points is to have enough to bring a second family with us for 1 week+ Each year (2 bdrm or 2xstudios depending on avail, usually in the 3 slowest seasons). We'll be coming from overseas so 1 big trip/year is realistic use for us - we won't be popping in for quick weekend visits.

We have 5+ extended families with 2-3 kids each that we want to take over the coming years (followed hopefully, by our own in a few more!). One thing I was really looking forward to was pool hopping with the kids. But I didn't appreciate before I bought that some of the best pools are excluded! Knowing most of the kids and families who will be coming over the years, the big water parks will be a bit 'too much' - our holidays generally will involve lots of quieter resort time - and Stormalong bay looks just perfectly paced for something extra/different on top of the AKV pools.

Also, I've never been to WDW during F&W (and do wonder whether I would even enjoy the extra rowdy crowds??) but it's likely many of our trips over the next few years will be Sept-Oct-Nov.

So, I'm wondering whether a 25-50 direct add on from BCV might be a good idea, so that every year or every second year we can split our visit and spend 1-2 nights at BCV, with a day at Stormalong with the kids and 1-2 nights for the adults at F&W.

So my questions to the DVC Brains Trust:

1) what do you think of the general idea? Prob member benefits of themselves wouldn't be worth a direct purchase for us, but adding the second resort advanced booking window where we'll be looking for 1-2 nights for 2 families during BCV, plus members benefits, may just be. Is Stormalong, beaches and cream, proximity to Epcot, BW, HS... worth it, both from points and direct purchase perspective? (I can say that AKV is a no brainer for us as a home base. We love it and the kids are all mad for animals - it would be our first choice anyway. I've also been to almost every other DVC resort, but never BCV!)

2) F&W availability generally - this is obviously a lesser consideration for the overall purchase decision - but our plan for our very first trip (already eagerly planning!) is to go for 1 week+ with another family in a 2 bed (ideally) at AKV, sometime in the three week window starting 26 Oct (this year). Depending on estoppel and closing, we will likely be just on either side of the 7 month window when our points load. What can I expect trying to book 1 week at AKV and 1-2 nights at BCV both (a) just inside and (b) just outside of the 7 month window, with flexibility to travel anytime within the 3 week window from 26 Oct? (Impossible? waitlist? Probably fine?)

3) this is an even lesser long term consideration, but not irrelevant in the short term! If I am definitely going to try for a BCV add on no matter what, in circumstances in which the very first trip I'm going for is just on the 7 month cusp, is there any chance that approaching DVC prior to closing on the AKV resale (my first and only purchase to date - I'm not yet a member), would (a) succeed in securing a 25-50 purchase before or at the very same time as my resale closing and points vesting and/or (b) even encourage Dis to speed up the whole estoppel and membership no and points loading process? (I'm guessing you'll tell me this is a completely hopeless ambition, but I have to ask!)

(I can't get over how helpful and welcoming everyone on these boards is - I feel like this is a members' benefit all its own that I get to enjoy right away. Thanks all!!)

It sounds like the children may be young? Have you read most peoples thoughts about SAB - how it has blocked views and can be difficult to keep an eye on multiple children? And how the lazy river is deep?

I'd suggest waiting until your Oct/Nov trip and walking around the outside of SAB. There's relatively little reason to buy BCV now for a trip this Oct as the availability is pretty scarce there for F&W already and we're almost to the 7 month window for the time frame you mention so any point will do to try and book it. You also can always put a waitlist in for a couple of nights there - which is what you'd likely have to do anyway even with BCV points. Waiting to check it out would also give you a chance to check out CCV on the trip as well as take a closer look at BCV.
 
I just bought a 70 point CC contract today. There is a 50 point minimum add on for CC. We toured the model villas and loved them. I love wilderness lodge but would never buy at BR because of the earlier expiration date (I'm only 31). We absolutely love MK area resorts and don't want to stay anywhere else. That is why we have 60 points at the Poly and now 70 points at CC. With banking we can get a week at each resort every other year!
 
I just wanted to put a general plug out there for doing the direct add on. We just did 25 pts onto our home resort, same use year, to keep it simple. We've only been members now for around 6 months, but we've used our direct membership to enjoy the lounge at Epcot, lots of merchandise discount savings, gold annual passes for a big savings and a dedicated line at MK, plus heavy dining discounts, discounts on Not So Scary party, after hours members only party at Animal Kingdom in September, and probably others. So, it has been really nice to not worry about whether or not my membership qualifies for perks, so my plug is an encouragement to go forward with the direct add on, I'm glad I did.
One other note, I've noticed a lot of availability at 7 months, so if you have any flexibility, then it may make most sense for such a small add on, to just do it at your home resort. My first booking with points, I've secured a week at Grand Floridian lake view during Food & Wine, Not So Scary, and a members only AK after hours event, all at 7 months on bargain basement SSR points. It is really nice to see my dollar being stretched so.
 
Thanks so much all, it seems I definitely needed to take a breath. A little over excited by my first purchase. I think you've sold me on biding my time for now - and either lock in a small add on at AKV closer to the date, or perhaps just go and be a non-direct member and see how that feels, maybe visit BCV and CC, and maybe set up a meet with a rep when I'm on site and suss the whole thing out that way. Either way I'll take a little breather, and direct my energies into planning for and enjoying what I'm already getting. :simba:
 
Yes, we're waiting on a resale BLT contract, it's in ROFR right now. Once that goes through, we plan to add-on 25 directly through DVD in the next year.

So glad I found this thread!

We are in the same boat - just passed ROFR on a BLT resale, and the only reason to buy a small amount of points direct is to get the AP discount. But not sure if it actually makes sense, financially, unless we end up buying more points and going to WDW more often, which is a distinct possibility.
 
So glad I found this thread!

We are in the same boat - just passed ROFR on a BLT resale, and the only reason to buy a small amount of points direct is to get the AP discount. But not sure if it actually makes sense, financially, unless we end up buying more points and going to WDW more often, which is a distinct possibility.
(We passed ROFR!) We figure 25 points direct at BLT is around $4,500 and the AP discount is a savings of $200pp for the first time, for our family of 3, that's $600 (more if we were to get the one with water parks, which we likely wouldn't), bringing the price per point of the add on to ~$137, if you use that discount twice. It's not guaranteed to be there forever but I think we can count on it twice.
 
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(We passed ROFR!) We figure 25 points direct at BLT is around $4,500 and the AP discount is a savings of $200pp for the first time, for our family of 3, that's $600 (more if we were to get the one with water parks, which we likely wouldn't), bringing the price per point of the add on to ~$137, if you use that discount twice. It's not guaranteed to be there forever but I think we can count on it twice.

That's an interesting point. Another thing I read on dvcnews was that once you sign the form for the direct points, you're considered a direct member. Although I don't know if they'd be able to give you the correct membership card soon enough to turn around and buy your discounted APs before you leave.
 
I just wanted to chime in here since I can related a lot to the OP. I am from California and own VGC resale purchased about a year ago (but right after the 4/16 change sadly). We are now purchasing a 50 point add on at PVB. Why did we pick PVB? Because with 50 points we are really only going to be able to stay in studios anyway, and I like the layout of the PVB studios, plus I like that the resort is on the monorail, and generally like the theme of the resort. Planning to stay in a studio every other year or so.


There are a lot of members that purchased pre-04/16 that will tell you the membership extras don’t matter. However to me they do matter. For example, here is my perceived value of the Membership extras for my May trip:


Access to DVC Pandora preview event for family of 3 – I personally would pay up to $250 to be able to attend this and not have to deal with crowds on opening weekend. I’ve paid almost as much for dessert parties, Halloween party, etc.


Access to EPCOT lounge. I am going to value this at about $30 ($10 a person). We will get some snacks and drinks and take an hour break or so to just relax.


Dining/Merchandise discounts. We eat out a lot at WDW and will also buy some merchandise, realistically I think we will save at least $150 with the discounts.


Total membership extras savings in one trip: $430. Plus the value of feeling included ;)
 
After barely a week on the waiting list, I now have my 25 point direct add-on contract. And the winner is..................
BoardWalk Villas!!!!

The points are already in my account, and I have access to my cool blue DVC membership card (FULL membership, that is).

I know the cost of direct purchase isn't worth the benefit for many people, but for me ultimately it was worth it. Small contracts like this often aren't up for sale on the resale market, and when they are, the competition among buyers is fierce. I got exactly what I wanted, and how much I wanted, while paying a slight premium. (Again, the cost difference is only valid IF you can even find a similar resale contract). And now I have AP discounts and other benefits I previously didn't have, which I will use.

I have to say, I was almost more excited about the 25 point add-on at BWV than my initial purchase at AKV.

I'm Home!
 
After barely a week on the waiting list, I now have my 25 point direct add-on contract. And the winner is..................
BoardWalk Villas!!!!

The points are already in my account, and I have access to my cool blue DVC membership card (FULL membership, that is).

I know the cost of direct purchase isn't worth the benefit for many people, but for me ultimately it was worth it. Small contracts like this often aren't up for sale on the resale market, and when they are, the competition among buyers is fierce. I got exactly what I wanted, and how much I wanted, while paying a slight premium. (Again, the cost difference is only valid IF you can even find a similar resale contract). And now I have AP discounts and other benefits I previously didn't have, which I will use.

I have to say, I was almost more excited about the 25 point add-on at BWV than my initial purchase at AKV.

I'm Home!
IMO it's worth it to have options, esp if one can plan the add on as part of the total points goal. You never know what will happen in the future.
 
IMO it's worth it to have options, esp if one can plan the add on as part of the total points goal. You never know what will happen in the future.

I agree! That's part of what I left out in my recent post. As much as some suggested that purchasing at my home resort (AKV) again, I wanted to be able to book in advance for another resort I really like. My love of BWV, low point charts, and location, location, location made it an easy choice for me. Now I can get a few days for Food & Wine every couple of years, which mixed with other trips is more than fine for me.

Now hopefully someday I can add on one of the "monorail resorts" and have even more options, and more points to use anywhere at the seven month mark.
 
After barely a week on the waiting list, I now have my 25 point direct add-on contract. And the winner is..................
BoardWalk Villas!!!!

The points are already in my account, and I have access to my cool blue DVC membership card (FULL membership, that is).

I know the cost of direct purchase isn't worth the benefit for many people, but for me ultimately it was worth it. Small contracts like this often aren't up for sale on the resale market, and when they are, the competition among buyers is fierce. I got exactly what I wanted, and how much I wanted, while paying a slight premium. (Again, the cost difference is only valid IF you can even find a similar resale contract). And now I have AP discounts and other benefits I previously didn't have, which I will use.

I have to say, I was almost more excited about the 25 point add-on at BWV than my initial purchase at AKV.

I'm Home!

Congratulations!!!

I'm waiting on Disney for ROFR, but have been thinking about a 25-50 point add-on. If it comes through, I will be a first time DVC member...fingers crossed! Did you contact Disney electronically for your BWV contract? Will Disney allow a small contract if I am not currently a DVC owner?
 
Congratulations!!!

I'm waiting on Disney for ROFR, but have been thinking about a 25-50 point add-on. If it comes through, I will be a first time DVC member...fingers crossed! Did you contact Disney electronically for your BWV contract? Will Disney allow a small contract if I am not currently a DVC owner?

I recently purchased a 50 point add on to go with my 125 points I bought resale. I believe for new Members (aka have not bought from DVD directly or bought resale), they require you to buy 100 points initially. Therefore it often makes sense to first buy resale and then buy from DVD directly.
 
I recently purchased a 50 point add on to go with my 125 points I bought resale. I believe for new Members (aka have not bought from DVD directly or bought resale), they require you to buy 100 points initially. Therefore it often makes sense to first buy resale and then buy from DVD directly.
Thank you FireflyTrance! Now, I just need to be patient and hope I pass. :)
 



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