Rci

[LorieDisneyLover]

I have some points I won't be able to use from purchasing resale.

They have already been banked.

I know I can rent or transfer them.

However, I'm wondering if they can somehow be exchanged into my RCI account and that the expiration date will be longer? If so, how do I go about doing that? Is there a minimum?

 

[Dean]

You'll need at least a 45 days advanced notice to do so and need at least 80 points from what I've heard. They can then only be used with RCI, not with DVC or to trade back in to DVC. It can be a good option but if you do, make sure you immediately start researching and searching for options that work for you.

 

[chalee94]

They have already been banked.

I know I can rent or transfer them.

actually, you could rent them (as a reservation) but you cannot transfer banked pts.

 

[LorieDisneyLover]

Thanks for the replies.

 

[DeeCee735]

I just used 70 points to book a trade out thru RCI. They explained the cancellation policy and said if cancelled 45 days or greater, the points would stay RCI points and can be used to book another RCI trade out, if I remember correctly up to year end of the following year of original travel plans, i.e. Original date of travel in Oct 15 can be rebooked thru 12/31/16.

I didn't here anything about a minimum of 80 points.

 

[Dean]

I just used 70 points to book a trade out thru RCI. They explained the cancellation policy and said if cancelled 45 days or greater, the points would stay RCI points and can be used to book another RCI trade out, if I remember correctly up to year end of the following year of original travel plans, i.e. Original date of travel in Oct 15 can be rebooked thru 12/31/16. I didn't here anything about a minimum of 80 points.

Others have said recently that if you did a deposit first it was an 80 pt minimum, that's the only reference I have. Buying to use for RCI (actually any exchange option) would be unreasonable as set up, looking for gems or extending points can be a good option in some situations.

 

[DeeCee735]

Thank you. We've been DVC members for 15 years and have only traded out once before. Deposit first doesn't figure into it. We just used 70 points to book 5 nights in Aruba.
As far as the detailed information regarding the resort, I have it. It was in my email and I just read through it. So far we are very happy with our choice!

Thanks for the information here.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

i don't know....but from qthing i have learn from here, "there-
@ dvc offices & listening to other owners -( members' cruisers )---
all the other timeshares are "bad deals" for dvc owners.

i think dvc should be open to where owners can sit down with
the top administrators & present on what is going on behind
the "curtain"....

here, ask why anyone is making their recommendations. fyi
`too many times, they post one thing but then "another" later on.
fo example, if they own rci....they are going to encourage
doing rci so they can increase their options...not yours.

now we don't own any other, & are direct owners. this site is
mainly dvc owners with rci/- resales, small resales dvc with
many timeshares....so i concern how things are being run
regarding dues especially renters. when dvc let them get
by with cost issues..& using our dues.....need addressing.
( recently, a renter asked what dvc benefits they are
entitled too- huh? they think disney is free?! ...in reality,
members are paying $... spilling into many issues )

we got an education when we first used our blt dvc. nor forgotten
the lessons. we could not get or 2 choices.., though @ 9am @
the 11mos. window. we finally got our room...though it took
many corrective actions/months...however, when we went......there
were many non/owners/special interests groups....since then we have
had better luck with dvc support.... but i think there's still ton of rooms-
for improvement ...{ i think dvc would be much improve for all
owners...across the board-if dvc had no relationships with any
other timeshares....based on many factors - ( it's a big list)
including improving their new sales. }

so i am suggesting you do comparison ,& decide what is best
for your situation.( i do think, some day, there is going to be an
owner group assigned the job, to protect owners contacts-
& "deal" many of the issues seen here.)~ oh, yeah! go bucks!

 

[Dean]

i don't know....but from qthing i have learn from here, "there- @ dvc offices & listening to other owners -( members' cruisers )--- all the other timeshares are "bad deals" for dvc owners. i think dvc should be open to where owners can sit down with the top administrators & present on what is going on behind the "curtain".... here, ask why anyone is making their recommendations. fyi `too many times, they post one thing but then "another" later on. fo example, if they own rci....they are going to encourage doing rci so they can increase their options...not yours. now we don't own any other, & are direct owners. this site is mainly dvc owners with rci/- resales, small resales dvc with many timeshares....so i concern how things are being run regarding dues especially renters. when dvc let them get by with cost issues..& using our dues.....need addressing. ( recently, a renter asked what dvc benefits they are entitled too- huh? they think disney is free?! ...in reality, members are paying $... spilling into many issues ) we got an education when we first used our blt dvc. nor forgotten the lessons. we could not get or 2 choices.., though @ 9am @ the 11mos. window. we finally got our room...though it took many corrective actions/months...however, when we went......there were many non/owners/special interests groups....since then we have had better luck with dvc support.... but i think there's still ton of rooms- for improvement ...{ i think dvc would be much improve for all owners...across the board-if dvc had no relationships with any other timeshares....based on many factors - ( it's a big list) including improving their new sales. } so i am suggesting you do comparison ,& decide what is best for your situation.( i do think, some day, there is going to be an owner group assigned the job, to protect owners contacts- & "deal" many of the issues seen here.)~ oh, yeah! go bucks!

There are some options that are reasonable to use with planning so not all options are bad or a poor choice. However, there are no guarantees and a lot of variables enough to make buying for that purpose in part is unreasonable IMO.

There is no direct or intellectual evidence to suggest that renters do more damage than others. The idea that "owners" treat it any better simply doesn't hold water IMO, When one rents privately, the member has already paid the maint and any applicable options, the same for any exchange so they are not getting extra or free.

While it's not widely known, the upper management is actually receptive to a sit down if one wants to plan a day to celebration. Or they will schedule a phone conversation if needed. There is always room for improvement.

 

[Chuck S]

Also for depositing, after the 80 minimum, it has to be in increments of 10. I bought 1 onetime use point to deposit my otherwise unused banked points.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

gotta sez....there are consistency from the top /professional
time shares people here. & just to add my "take"....almost
all of my observations came from reading their input here.

i am not interesting in just meeting with any official for status.
what i like to do...is share..."present".....roundtable ...
our experiences, observations....with the authority positions/&
or their reps.....& a direct line @ internal changes.

like who controlling the actions on ebay..fyi, i don't give 2 hoots
that it is a rci thing, the fact that they are not stopping those selling
thru rci has indirectly, does effect dvc owners. including-- in not the least,
who we get stuck with as neighbors....per party times. ( for ex.,
i won't forget the type of activities i saw back in 2o10. )

but in the bigger picture, it is "shocking" how sloppy- those currently
running this department....i don't see it as progressive , while
lacking leadership, resulting in waste & abuse, leading to tons of $
being lost. look @ ebay, & those selling their rci trades, & yet
not one has posted about their room being taken away or
booted out? how is that?

but my reason to responding here?.....whenever someone new
ask about buying dvc for other things like trading in the "good'
timeshares.... the over whelming responses ..."don't do it!
you only buy dvc ,& it value..is for using @ the dvc resorts.

{now i think those "backing" that action is correct....but if dvc
was set up right.....then dvc owners would have real good rci
options....& it wasn't missed...by one expert..if he done
it over....would never own dvc, & just used his rci..trading in
4/5 times a year...so who is running dvc that permits
such conditions in the first place...they should have been fired
years ago!}

so when i find...it interesting when this new owner asked about
rci , go ahead & dump your point into rci.....i don't see them
as kindred spirits, just self serving. that is, they all own rci....

here's one of my expectations : every person renting thru a rci
trade , should be denied the dvc room. now if we had real
dvc leadership...seeing rci ignoring than the dvc contact with rci
is broken, end it!!! & since this isn't happening , dvc needs
new management. aT least a "check & balancing depart."
that has the "teeth" to tackle these problems.

see? not only to save dues/$ but ensuing quality assurances
for all members. * speaking of..did you see that resles ssr
bragged about never staying there..old news, but i know
they should be restricted....& it can be done...because
they only obligated to their home resorts..."right there"!
is a great point to those 2 groups -resles/vs direct. what
are they going to do? c/o they getting what they paid for?!
if dvc had leadership...these things were already been done.
( just listens to them,,,they make it clear they would never buy
direct, always seeking the cheapest...well , who should dvc
be trying to influence? )


a few years ago , when we were forced to learn dvc from the inside,
there were "many" things i started seeing that would improve
..this system....& "advance it"-- in many increase profit-areas.

 

[Dean]

gotta sez....there are consistency from the top /professional time shares people here. & just to add my "take"....almost all of my observations came from reading their input here.

That's a large part of the problem, you're making assumptions based on very limited info. Most here know very little of RCI and most likely care less either way. And those of us that do have to balance how much we share simply to avoid boring the rest and to stay on topic.

i am not interesting in just meeting with any official for status. what i like to do...is share..."present".....roundtable ... our experiences, observations....with the authority positions/& or their reps.....& a direct line @ internal changes. like who controlling the actions on ebay..fyi, i don't give 2 hoots that it is a rci thing, the fact that they are not stopping those selling thru rci has indirectly, does effect dvc owners. including-- in not the least, who we get stuck with as neighbors....per party times. ( for ex., i won't forget the type of activities i saw back in 2o10. )

That's just it, the way to have access to the top is as I described it. Even the member satisfaction team is relatively low level when it comes to system change. RCI should put more effort into policing renting of exchanges but from DVC's standpoint it doesn't hurt them and it is far more likely produce a sale than an RCI exchanger.

but in the bigger picture, it is "shocking" how sloppy- those currently running this department....i don't see it as progressive , while lacking leadership, resulting in waste & abuse, leading to tons of $ being lost. look @ ebay, & those selling their rci trades, & yet not one has posted about their room being taken away or booted out?

I do know of examples of people who have lost their DVC exchange and in some cases, their RCI membership in the process. All we see are the successful ones, we don't have the rest of the info.

how is that? but my reason to responding here?.....whenever someone new ask about buying dvc for other things like trading in the "good' timeshares.... the over whelming responses ..."don't do it! you only buy dvc ,& it value..is for using @ the dvc resorts. {now i think those "backing" that action is correct....but if dvc was set up right.....then dvc owners would have real good rci options....& it wasn't missed...by one expert..if he done it over....would never own dvc, & just used his rci..trading in 4/5 times a year...so who is running dvc that permits such conditions in the first place...they should have been fired years ago!} so when i find...it interesting when this new owner asked about rci , go ahead & dump your point into rci.....i don't see them as kindred spirits, just self serving. that is, they all own rci.... here's one of my expectations : every person renting thru a rci trade , should be denied the dvc room. now if we had real dvc leadership...seeing rci ignoring than the dvc contact with rci is broken, end it!!! & since this isn't happening , dvc needs new management. aT least a "check & balancing depart." that has the "teeth" to tackle these problems.

I'm having trouble follow you as usual and you're post is difficult to break up to quote specific issues. I can't speak for others specifically but I own other timeshares and most of my DVC stays are by exchanging in. However, I've been consistent at suggesting people never buy for exchanging and that they be very selective when they own and consider exchanging. I've also been consistent in suggesting people only deposit when it makes sense for them. I don't recall a single post or set of posts from a given person that seemed self serving in any way related to creating more volume in RCI (or II before them). I am quite confident that my posts do not lend themselves to that conclusion. I've said many times I don't think DVC needs RCI but they do need some type of viable exchange option.

see? not only to save dues/$ but ensuing quality assurances for all members. * speaking of..did you see that resles ssr bragged about never staying there..old news, but i know they should be restricted....& it can be done...because they only obligated to their home resorts..."right there"! is a great point to those 2 groups -resles/vs direct. what are they going to do? c/o they getting what they paid for?! if dvc had leadership...these things were already been done. ( just listens to them,,,they make it clear they would never buy direct, always seeking the cheapest...well , who should dvc be trying to influence? ) a few years ago , when we were forced to learn dvc from the inside, there were "many" things i started seeing that would improve ..this system....& "advance it"-- in many increase profit-areas.

The problem with improvements are 2, those of unintended consequences and that one person's improvement is another's problem. While I do think there are things DVC could change and improve, not everyone would agree with my list, or yours and then some of them come with costs that you and I have to pay for. While I don't agree with all that DVD/DVC does, I think they do a good to very good job overall. Likely my biggest issue with them is they are too nice. They give flexibility when they likely shouldn't, they grease the squeaky wheel. I do think if you'd go sit down with them you'd feel more comfortable and have a better understanding. As for those buying one resort and staying at another, it's the way the system is being sold and the way it's set up. The only real alternative is for those who aren't OK with that system to not play in the sandbox. That's the system you bought into. I cont to be amazed that you have such a negative view of DVC and those that use it and yet continue to own.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

if you are a dvc official in authority than i would take time out
during one of our visits to met...and will "fill in" any
of the "blanks" you have.

fyi~ yes, i am very careful to only present an evasive point of
view. it's only business, not personal.

in general, there are trust issues.... &
i think owners should not rely on any dvc official promise/
or words to do right....especially when i am reading all the
things going on. yet i want to make my point very clear,
dvc workers taking unfair advantages-- that are costing owners
rooms/and or monies, instead of the "parent company" --& that
the company is "ignoring"-- "because" it isn't costing them anything-
( monies/rooms)-
is professional wrongdoing. and that isn't taking into account...the
information learn thru active encounters. there should be mandatory
audits on these "exchanges".

this is assuming dues costs are paying for electric, heating, cooling,
disposal, & so on. oh , since they are spending my monies then
i am expecting dvc should be available to audits....yeah,
i don't put my life saving on faith/or promises. just like the advice,
"you don't understand timeshares"...my response...."i can learn".
* if one is an expert?, than you don't have a problem/ an issue
in presenting the facts @ the owner 's level of understanding?

then general principles...toward fair trade...no rci owner should be
able to do more than one trade in a year....look how many that
would like to do so but are unsuccessful because "experts"
are taking 4 or 5? not very fair too me though i am not a
rci owner?

from my observations, dvc is very sloppy in their "operations"
& i believe it is used a a cover. i like to see a tightening of the
belt, and professional motivation toward improving their
current operations. and i feel strongly there are a ton of
structural improvements that would also increase their
bottom lines.

...i read over & over the experts' recommendations...and they
are following the same way of thinking -protecting their
advantages. any rci owner, has no business being in authority
@ dvc. i think they call it a conflict of interest. and as you
mentioned...really?...then why is ebay is flooded with all
these rci owners "renting" dvc resorts? i guess if what
you stated was true...then there wouldn't be any on ebay.
something isn't making sense too me.

as for the topic here, i don't think trading dvc into rci is worth it
under the current conditions, just like the other "experts"
advised all the time- when considering buying dvc for trading.


yeah, that 's me..i don't limit my ways of thinking.

 

[Dean]

if you are a dvc official in authority than i would take time out during one of our visits to met...and will "fill in" any of the "blanks" you have. fyi~ yes, i am very careful to only present an evasive point of view. it's only business, not personal. in general, there are trust issues.... & i think owners should not rely on any dvc official promise/ or words to do right....especially when i am reading all the things going on. yet i want to make my point very clear, dvc workers taking unfair advantages-- that are costing owners rooms/and or monies, instead of the "parent company" --& that the company is "ignoring"-- "because" it isn't costing them anything- ( monies/rooms)- is professional wrongdoing. and that isn't taking into account...the information learn thru active encounters. there should be mandatory audits on these "exchanges". this is assuming dues costs are paying for electric, heating, cooling, disposal, & so on. oh , since they are spending my monies then i am expecting dvc should be available to audits....yeah, i don't put my life saving on faith/or promises. just like the advice, "you don't understand timeshares"...my response...."i can learn". * if one is an expert?, than you don't have a problem/ an issue in presenting the facts @ the owner 's level of understanding? then general principles...toward fair trade...no rci owner should be able to do more than one trade in a year....look how many that would like to do so but are unsuccessful because "experts" are taking 4 or 5? not very fair too me though i am not a rci owner? from my observations, dvc is very sloppy in their "operations" & i believe it is used a a cover. i like to see a tightening of the belt, and professional motivation toward improving their current operations. and i feel strongly there are a ton of structural improvements that would also increase their bottom lines. ...i read over & over the experts' recommendations...and they are following the same way of thinking -protecting their advantages. any rci owner, has no business being in authority @ dvc. i think they call it a conflict of interest. and as you mentioned...really?...then why is ebay is flooded with all these rci owners "renting" dvc resorts? i guess if what you stated was true...then there wouldn't be any on ebay. something isn't making sense too me. as for the topic here, i don't think trading dvc into rci is worth it under the current conditions, just like the other "experts" advised all the time- when considering buying dvc for trading. yeah, that 's me..i don't limit my ways of thinking.

As usual I can hardly follow your note. I'll respond to one portion, you're too far out there to make the rest worth responding to. You imply you only report what you see but no one else sees it the way you do that I can tell. The one response is that it doesn't affect DVC in any way the number of villas a given RCI member takes because ALL of those villas are with RCI already and gone from the DVC system. Now if you want to discuss "fair" of how RCI determines who gets those units, that's reasonable for an RCI discussion. In short they have their system of how that works and they have the ability to limit even to say 1 trip up to every 3-5 yrs though it can be more than one unit. To my knowledge, RCI has never done so unilaterally, only at the request of a given resort or system. DVC limits RCI so that no one can trade Orlando into DVC. Some resorts limit to 1 in 4 or similar and while they'll tell you it's for fairness, it's actually a sales tactic for the given resort or system to get more fresh meat. I cont to be amazed that you are so unhappy with everything related to DVC but still own.