Random metal detectors at DL

[GatorChris]

Why would the LAPD be in Orange County?

Red Herring

 

[SMD]

Red Herring

The Anaheim PD has a station on property. I do not feel very secure knowing that someone is using hyperbole and flat out lies to justify bringing a weapon onto Disney property. In my opinion someone who would blame the LAPD for taking an hour to investigate something outside of their jurisdiction when there are already police on site would not exercise good judgement when it comes to discharging a weapon in public. I'll be happy when every guest goes through the metal detector instead of just random selections.

 

[GatorChris]

You're clearly missing the point. Once someone has been shot, it doesn't matter when the PD shows up. 5 minutes later. 60 minutes later. Once the lunatic brandishes his weapon, I'm hoping someone close by (a good guy with a concealed) can take him/her down. Fast. The victims can't afford to wait for a 911 call, then have the operator inform local law enforcement, then have them show up. By the time that all happens, we're waiting for CSI to show up.

No one here has claimed to bring a gun into Disney. No one here is using flat out lies. No one is exaggerating. It's a simple truth: law abiding citizens who carry make me feel safer. Make A LOT of people feel safer. You don't have to like this fact, but you could show some tolerance toward these people. Especially since they're the ones who'll be saving your tail when the crazies show up. End of line.

 

[SMD]

You're clearly missing the point. Once someone has been shot, it doesn't matter when the PD shows up. 5 minutes later. 60 minutes later. Once the lunatic brandishes his weapon, I'm hoping someone close by (a good guy with a concealed) can take him/her down. Fast. The victims can't afford to wait for a 911 call, then have the operator inform local law enforcement, then have them show up. By the time that all happens, we're waiting for CSI to show up.

No one here has claimed to bring a gun into Disney. No one here is using flat out lies. No one is exaggerating. It's a simple truth: law abiding citizens who carry make me feel safer. Make A LOT of people feel safer. You don't have to like this fact, but you could show some tolerance toward these people. Especially since they're the ones who'll be saving your tail when the crazies show up. End of line.

You claimed earlier that you know people who take guns to Disney. Again, you stated that the LAPD will take an hour to arrive at Disneyland. The LAPD has zero jurisdiction at Disneyland, so that should not be a reason to support concealed carry on Disney property. It was a flat out lie to prove your point. And again, I don't trust your judgement to determine that someone is brandishing a weapon and that you should take them down. I'd rather take my chances that is someone were to brandish a weapon at Disney that I could stay out of the way until their security and the on site police can respond. This is based both on your hyperbolic posts here and your downright offensive posts on another board for which you were recently called out.

 

[bethwc101]

I've never carried at Disney, but I've always felt safer because I know people who have. But that's just my perspective on things.

No one here has claimed to bring a gun into Disney.

I think I'm confused

 

[RKKUNK]

You're confused because he said he has never PERSONALLY carried at DL. He said he KNEW people that have carried at DL. SO, when he said no one here has claimed to bring a gun into DL, he was stating a fact. No one here did say they have taken a gun into Disney. People might have said that they might feel safer IF they were carrying or knew that someone else was.

That being said, I think it is time to stop all of the back and forth. Everyone has a right to their opinion. The original post was about random people being checked with metal detectors, not about guns. I wonder how that is affecting the bag check lines?

 

[Arnir]

I'm only really interested in what impact it is having on getting in. I'm going next month and am not looking forward to another line. I don't use a bag but will have (I assume) a coat on for the cold. Lots of pockets etc. Do I need to have all of my stuff in a ziplock like I have to do at Six Flags Over Texas to avoid hiccups etc.?

I have opinions about the usefulness of the lines but they don't really matter. I just want in without extra hassle.

 

[theluckyrabbit]

Someone online reported a rumor that everyone is now required to go through the detectors. Can anyone at the parks confirm this??

 

[ludari]

Last Friday I was randomly selected for secondary screening. They didn't check my backpack again and all I had to do was empty my pockets and walk through the metal detector. It took less than a minute since I didn't have anything in my pockets.

 

[SMD]

Yes, bag check is taking longer right now. It is a busy time, there are more guests, it's cold, and it's been raining, and guests have more stuff, and more bags too. When you arrive will also impact how long the bag check takes. In addition, Disney has said that they are now going to inspect layers of clothing. If you wear a jacket, unzip it. The metal detectors are off to the side once you pass the bag check. Other than being selected to walk through the metal detector, if it impedes your entry to the park in anyway, you walked the wrong way. The bag check and the metal detectors are separate. So far I haven't seen or heard of any lines at the bag check that are worse than any other capacity crowd day, which the parks have been for the past few days.

 

[beachteachlv]

Yes, bag check is taking longer right now. It is a busy time, there are more guests, it's cold, and it's been raining, and guests have more stuff, and more bags too. When you arrive will also impact how long the bag check takes. In addition, Disney has said that they are now going to inspect layers of clothing. If you wear a jacket, unzip it. The metal detectors are off to the side once you pass the bag check. Other than being selected to walk through the metal detector, if it impedes your entry to the park in anyway, you walked the wrong way. The bag check and the metal detectors are separate. So far I haven't seen or heard of any lines at the bag check that are worse than any other capacity crowd day, which the parks have been for the past few days.

Is there somewhere online to check updates on park capacity?

 

[dina444444]

Is there somewhere online to check updates on park capacity?

Disney will typically send out tweets regarding capacity.

 

[SMD]

Disney will typically send out tweets regarding capacity.

No. The first, and only time that I was aware of them doing that was the 24 hour day this year. And they didn't do it until several hours after DL hard closed. But they did send a tweet yesterday saying that the parks were crowded, which is highly, highly unusual. I was only at DTD yesterday, but it was pretty packed there, so in a way I wasn't surprised, but it did make me wonder if the week after Christmas crowds are now spreading into the week before. Yesterday was also the first day of break for many schools, so I'm sure that added to the crowds.

ETA: I read this as "Will Disney send out tweets..." You know, because sometimes you brain swaps the order of words. I guess the answer is still the same. Regardless, the actual crowd level in the parks isn't the only thing that backs up the bag check, unfortunately. That and the turnstile lines can look completely different 5 minutes apart. On a busy day I'd leave extra time for bag check if I had firm plans like an ADR, and if it takes less time than anticipated, great. But there will also be times when the parks aren't nearly as crowded and getting in will take longer than anticipated. It's always better to plan for extra time than be surprised by the unexpected.

 

[figment_jii]

As mentioned, I would follow Disneyland Today on Twitter. It seems like they're the most likely to post information on that social media source (opposed to Facebook or any of the others). As mentioned, they won't post actual capacity figures and they don't always post if the parks are approaching or at capacity, but they do post occasionally that "the Disneyland Resort is busy today with many Guests visiting to enjoy our holiday offerings" or parking updates (there has only been a handful of posts, but it's better than nothing).

 

[Sparrow03]

As a strong 2nd Amendment supporter, I have no problem with Disney doing this. It will not keep me out of the parks. I have never felt the need to be armed in any theme park, especially Disney.
Their business, their rules.

Absolutely, Disney is doing the correct measure with regards to park security.

 

[Nonsuch]

...Disney has said that they are now going to inspect layers of clothing. If you wear a jacket, unzip it...

This will likely slow me down. ScottEVest travel vests easily hold more "stuff" than a typical purse, yet I have always walked through the bag check. Although not heavily advertised, the QUEST vest has long vertical exterior pockets designed for concealed carry (I don't).

 

[SMD]

This will likely slow me down. ScottEVest travel vests easily hold more "stuff" than a typical purse, yet I have always walked through the bag check. Although not heavily advertised, the QUEST vest has long vertical exterior pockets designed for concealed carry (I don't).

Were you never checked before? I've been asked to unzip my jacket or lift up my sweatshirt before, but it wasn't consistent. Now they're saying they're going to be consistent, though that remains to be seen. I've already seen a CM forget, then call the person back over. In the grand scheme of things it's a few seconds. If those few seconds are an issue for people, they can maybe try something like putting their jacket or vest in a plastic bag and putting the items in their pockets after they've passed security. This is sort of like adding picture taking to tickets. Most of the time it's a second or 2 extra. Sometimes something happens and it takes a little longer. Overall, the experience of going through the turnstile and the amount of time has stayed almost the same for the majority of guests. For the few who have experienced occasional additional delays, that's unfortunate, but not a reason to go back to the way it was.

 

[Nonsuch]

Were you never checked before?...

I've been wearing various versions of ScottEVests for several years, and never been checked. These vests are designed to carry many items and distribute the weight, so it does not appear to be overloaded (although it is often quite heavy). It will be interesting to see how these type of garments are handled, they have dozens of pockets. I'll be at WDW next month, so that will be the my first experience with "enhanced" security.

 

[Arnir]

I've been wearing various versions of ScottEVests for several years, and never been checked. These vests are designed to carry many items and distribute the weight, so it does not appear to be overloaded (although it is often quite heavy). It will be interesting to see how these type of garments are handled, they have dozens of pockets. I'll be at WDW next month, so that will be the my first experience with "enhanced" security.

I also use ScottEVests and bought one of their jackets for January for carrying ease. I too wonder what will happen at security. I certainly will take it off for them but I load it purposefully. Emptying it out might be amusing to watch.

 

[dina444444]

I had to go through the metal detector on Saturday on one of my trips back into the park through the grand. They were only asking that you empty coins/cellphones (things that would for sure set the detector off) from pockets etc. not everything.