Racist,ignorant, or misunderstood? O'Reilly remarks

[Robinrs]

True, O'Reilly's comment wasn't totally PC, but we seem to never have a problem giving a pass to Sharpton and Jackson, two real racists in this country.

It wasn't too long ago that these two were jumping and all over Imus for his inappropriate comments, but defended blacks for doing the same thing until they started to feel the pressure themselves.

If racism is to end in this country, racist promoters like Sharpton and Jackson need to change their message and stop promoting division in this country. In my world people of several backgrounds work and socialize together. That's the way it is supposed to be.

Did you know about the burial of the N word? I don't remember one thread about that.

 

[Robinrs]

Sadly, he and his audience see nothing racist or prejudiced in what he said. That's the sad part. People think if you're not hanging nooses from trees or calling AA people the "n" word, that you're not racist. There's the more subtle racism that comes out in statements like O'Reilly's and that seems to be much harder to get people to notice.

Sublety is the PC way of today's racist. It's how they continue to deny it exists. The ones on this board make me laugh DAILY!

I don't see it, what was wrong with that, wow, maybe it's YOU.

 

[Robinrs]

Who the heck thinks that all black people act like rappers??!??!! Oh wait I know who does...racists.


I agree and that is just He assumes we are all ignorant like he is.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Did you know about the burial of the N word? I don't remember one thread about that.

I hadn't heard anything about Rev Al's crusade against rap music lyrics until the Imus thing, and then I found out that he's been at it for some time. I read the local NY papers and watch the NY news, he seems to be on it all the time, but I really had to dig to find the stories about this issue.

I can't fault people for having a bad impression of him if the media is ignoring anything positive he does.

 

[HakunaMatata2]

Actually, the Rev Sharpton has been leading a charge on racist language and negative stereotypes about women in rap music. I thought it was just after the Imus thing, but I learned that he's been at it for quite a while. Unfortunately, that effort has not gotten the publicity it deserves.

I'm not negating the mistakes the man has made, but I'll give him credit when he does do something I admire.

If that is the case, Sharpton managed to keep it well hidden in the interviews that followed the Imus incident. I am not an advocate of anyone who makes their living promoting racism.

 

[Fitswimmer]

If that is the case, Sharpton managed to keep it well hidden in the interviews that followed the Imus incident. I am not an advocate of anyone who makes their living promoting racism.

Guess you missed the show Oprah did right after the Imus thing broke, he was on with several other folks talking about the "n" word and it's use in and out of the black community. That's where I learned about what he's been doing and then I went on to do some more digging myself.

I don't think he's hiding it, but as I said above, it's interesting that the media doesn't miss anything else he says or does but they completely missed this.

 

[va32h]

True, O'Reilly's comment wasn't totally PC, but we seem to never have a problem giving a pass to Sharpton and Jackson, two real racists in this country.

Who is this "we" of which you speak?

And "oh it's just not PC" is such a lame excuse for people to say hateful things without having to be held accountable for them.

 

[salmoneous]

Places like Harlem, and New Orleans, and Compton, etc. have pretty bad reputations. It is common knowledge that a white person cannot just go out for walk in the middle of these neighborhoods.

What??????

Common knowledge for who? People who have actually been to those locations? Or people who just know a bunch of Black people live there?

I'm going to try and restrain myself here. But, let me just say that I'm a White guy who has gone for many walks in Harlem. The trek from the subway to some softball fields I used to play on go right through the heart of Harlem. Never had a problem. So I suggest you think long and hard about what lead you to believe that its common knowledge that a white person cannot just go out for a walk there...

 

[cardaway]

And "oh it's just not PC" is such a lame excuse for people to say hateful things without having to be held accountable for them.

 

[pansmermaidzlagoon]

One of the worst kinds of racism... because he was patting himself on the back for being so enlightened and unafraid ("oooh, listeners, I went to Harlem!") and then "enlightening" his viewers (whom he must consider less sophisticated than his Harlem-dining self), by reassuring them that the black folks use silverware and don't throw the m-f word around in their restaurants.

 

[HakunaMatata2]

I hadn't heard anything about Rev Al's crusade against rap music lyrics until the Imus thing, and then I found out that he's been at it for some time. I read the local NY papers and watch the NY news, he seems to be on it all the time, but I really had to dig to find the stories about this issue.

I can't fault people for having a bad impression of him if the media is ignoring anything positive he does.

You're right. I did miss the Oprah show and always do. I'm commenting about info from various new channels. However, if you're right, and I do feel you are, it seems as if Sharpton is speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

I don't approve of anyone promoting hate and division in this country.

 

[gate_pourri]

OMG, I do the same thing too!!!! Except I am watching CNN or MSNBC.....

I do the same thing! Also read the NY Times to keep me sharp!

 

[HakunaMatata2]

And "oh it's just not PC" is such a lame excuse for people to say hateful things without having to be held accountable for them.

I'm sure O'Reilly will be held accountable for his comments. Actually, I wasn't defending O'Reilly, just commenting about the difference in attitude depending on who is spewing racism. O'Reilly - bad. Sharpton - good.

Racism is racism and any one promoting it, especially those who earn a living by doing so, should be held equally accountable. Racist comments and the promotion of it are always wrong whether they are delivered by someone white or someone black. This is my view, but I don't feel my views about racism are shared by many on this thread.

 

[LuvDuke]

Sublety is the PC way of today's racist. It's how they continue to deny it exists. The ones on this board make me laugh DAILY!

I don't see it, what was wrong with that, wow, maybe it's YOU.

Subtle? What was subtle of nooses hanging from a tree in Jena? And IMO, O'Reilly was anything but subtle.

No, racism is alive and well in this country and it isn't subtle at all. The people defending O'Reilly are in denial and have their heads in the sand. The ones who point to Sharpton and Jackson just don't get it. If it wasn't for Sharpton and Jackson, the Jena story would've been buried in some obscure newspaper.

 

[Patch'sD]

Again I have read the transcript of the Radio Program. Again, I believe that O'Rielly was misunderstood. He spoke about how his grandmother had the opinion based upon Rappers, and how she was wrong. He brought up going to the restuarant with Al Sharpton and related what he saw there. What he was trying to convey is that this opinion is wrong. That is it. But hey since I am defending him, According to the painting with the broad Brush Strokes here, I am a racist. Since I am not, and do not feel any need to defend myself.

But of course all of this is from a Source, Media Matters who's mission Statement is:

"Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time."


Now we here we have a Media Watchdog that only watch's certain sort of Media, I guess there are no problems with other opinions. With an agenda of only viewing conservatives outlets, I think that their opinions will only lean one way to discredit the people they report on. But Hey it must be fact since it was reported by such a Fair and Balanced Org like this one. I really feel for poeple now who has to be told how to think by Orgs like this and Move On. I wonder how many will watch O'Rielly tonight with Al Sharpton. Or wait for the Mediamatters reports tomorrow to understand what really happened.

 

[cardaway]

What's the point of poitning out how bad Shapton (or Jackson) has been in the past? Doesn't change anything about O'Reilly. In fact, there are many (inclduing me) who don't think much fo all three of them, and for the same reasons.

 

[NY Disney fan]

Sharpton, Jackson & O'Reilly = same horse of a different color.

 

[va32h]

But my point is that there is no context in which it is appropriate to exclaim with mock-incredulity that by-golly those black people are just like us!

It was O'Reilly's tone (reeking of condescension and noblesse oblige) that irritated me as much as his actual words.

 

[HakunaMatata2]

Sharpton, Jackson & O'Reilly = same horse of a different color.

Well said!

 

[aplejax76]

Places like Harlem, and New Orleans, and Compton, etc. have pretty bad reputations. It is common knowledge that a white person cannot just go out for walk in the middle of these neighborhoods. Is that a stereotype? Yep. But it doesn't make it any less true. Are there good people in those neighborhoods? You betcha. But, it still doesn't detract from the statistics. There are places where ambulances WILL NOT ENTER w/o a police escort. It's not b/c they are scared of black people, just b/c they are black. It's b/c there is a known history of violence there and past occurences tell them that it is not safe. My family grew up in New Orleans, they stay far away from the prominently black parks, stores, restaurants, you name it. It's not b/c they hate blacks, or b/c they are racist, it's b/c they have shopped/dined/visited those places and always have bad experiences. These places are almost always trashed and they usually get looked at, cursed at, hit on, or anything else you can think of. .

This is a prime example of what this thread is about. People not knowing what they just said as being Racist.

Do you have any idea of the ignorance in this post?

You can call them on it but they just don't see it that way.