Questions about DVC...

shortypots

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I am trying to convince my hubby to buy into the DVC, but he is fighting me on it. So I was basically wondering a couple of different things from you current DVC owners:

Do you tend to use your points from year to year, or bank them to use in one lump sum?

Is there any cost to bank them? Do you pay your maintenance fees when you use them, monthly, or year to year?

Which is the best resort to buy in?

Have you had any trouble getting other resorts when they are not your home resort?

How difficult is it to rent your points, or let a family member use them?

Have you been pleased with your DVC purchase?

Did you purchase through Disney or resale? What is the difference? Is there any benefit to purchasing through Disney?

Does anyone know what the current loan rate is for a standard 5year loan for DVC points?

Sorry, I know it is lots of questions, but I would love to know. The more info I have, the better chance I have of getting what I want.

I would love to go every year, and if we owned down there, it would make it a lot easier. Of course, his opinion is if we were going to buy a timeshare, buy in one of the other timeshare resorts for half the price.

Appreciate the help.
::MickeyMo
 
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Originally posted by shortypots
I am trying to convince my hubby to buy into the DVC, but he is fighting me on it. So I was basically wondering a couple of different things from you current DVC owners:

Do you tend to use your points from year to year, or bank them to use in one lump sum?

***Depends on how many you buy and your vacation pattern - we are currently borrowing due to DW being off for mat leave allowing us to vacation more then normal - some find themselves enjoying DVC so much they borrow so much they have to add on (i.e. they vacation more than they planned to)***

Is there any cost to bank them? Do you pay your maintenance fees when you use them, monthly, or year to year?

***No cost to bank or borrow. Mtce fees can be paid monthly or annually - paid on fixed dates - no link to when you actually use them***

Which is the best resort to buy in?

***Buy where you want to stay and where you would be happy to stay if you could not get into other resorts at 7 month window***

Have you had any trouble getting other resorts when they are not your home resort?

***Not yet but we are quite flexible***

How difficult is it to rent your points, or let a family member use them?

***Never rented out points, have rented in points and worked out well***

Have you been pleased with your DVC purchase?

***YES***

Did you purchase through Disney or resale? What is the difference? Is there any benefit to purchasing through Disney?

***Disney - we wanted BCV and resort was not open long enough for resales to be around - buying through Disney brings no closing costs and allows for immediate points usage - but resales can be the way to go especially if you want a resort that is no longer in active sales by DVC***

Does anyone know what the current loan rate is for a standard 5year loan for DVC points?

***9.75% for pre-authorised debit***

Sorry, I know it is lots of questions, but I would love to know. The more info I have, the better chance I have of getting what I want.

I would love to go every year, and if we owned down there, it would make it a lot easier. Of course, his opinion is if we were going to buy a timeshare, buy in one of the other timeshare resorts for half the price.

***There are some nice timeshares near WDW - the question is how important is being on site to you***

Appreciate the help.
::MickeyMo
 
You might also want to mention that, unlike most timeshares, the resale value of DVC properties has consistently gone up even during bad financial times. This has happened for two reasons: the DVC properties are viewed by the buying/vacationing public as desirable, and the Disney corporation exercises its Right of First Refusal to buy up any DVC property that it feels is being sold too cheaply. As a result, DVC properties have held and increased their value while most other timeshares have lost value. No guarantees for the future, of course, but the historical pattern is very solid. Bottom line, if your spouse wants to get out in the future, your exit is likely to make rather than lose money.
 
My DH and I just bought DVC at SSR (yea!) and here are some of the things we thought about while deciding.

This is a points-based timeshare so you don't have to go on vacation at the same time every year, it can be flexible.

If you only want to vacation every other year you can buy the minimum amount of points (150) and bank them to take a 300 point trip every other year. If you find yousrself vacationing more often, you can buy another contract and add points on! (there are a lot of people who own at more than one resort)

There is more than just Disney. If you don't want to go to Disney World you can stay at Hilton Head or Vero Beach. Also, you can trade your points with Interval International and go just about anywhere in the world! CAUTION! Although that is a nice perk, I wouldn't buy into it solely for that reason - it is a PERK and may not always be there! (but it's something to think about)

There are many other discounts that go along with being a DVC member.

DVC is also transferrable - you can will it to your kids, sell off some or all of your points. I wouldn't think of selling your contract as an "easy way out", but it is nice to know that if something should happen to me or my DH and the payments became too much that we could sell it.

Have you considered renting some points and taking it for a test spin? Check out the different resorts and enjoy the larger room. See what your hubby thinks then!

D4D
 

Originally posted by shortypots
I am trying to convince my hubby to buy into the DVC, but he is fighting me on it. So I was basically wondering a couple of different things from you current DVC owners:

Do you tend to use your points from year to year, or bank them to use in one lump sum?

This will vary greatly from one owner to another. Our children are both several years away from starting school, so we can travel during the "cheap" periods without worrying about school schedules. For that reason we decided to go with just 150 points for the time being. With our typical stay being Sunday to Thursday, we could take 3-4 trips every 2 years, depending upon the size of room we need.

As the kids get older, we will probably need to either reduce the frequency of our trips or add-on points.

Is there any cost to bank them? Do you pay your maintenance fees when you use them, monthly, or year to year?

No cost to bank. Dues can be paid in one annual lump sum or 12 equal payments throughout the year.

Which is the best resort to buy in?

Depends upon your own personal taste. Most people will tell you "buy where you want to stay", mostly because you have the largest exclusive window of opportunity to book at your Home resort.

Have you had any trouble getting other resorts when they are not your home resort?

By and large, no. There are a couple of exceptions, most notably Grand Villas at Old Key West (which are ridiculously cheap compared to the other resorts' GVs), and Standard View rooms at the Boardwalk Villas. Those are very difficult to get unless you own at the given resort.

December is also getting difficult to book due to the low point costs in the first two weeks. But all that means is that it's best to reserve at your Home resort 11 mos out for a December trip, and then try to re-book at another resort once you're within the 7 month period.

How difficult is it to rent your points, or let a family member use them?

Letting family members use it is cake. You just put their name on the ressie. Renting is permitted under DVC guidelines, but DVC will not do anything to regulate it. From time-to-time, DVC members will post on how they got shafted on a rental. But as long as you get 100% of the money up front and have written agreements, then you should be adequately protected.

Have you been pleased with your DVC purchase?

Haven't used it yet, but I'm certainly looking forward to it!!! We actually rented points twice and that was all it took to convince my wife. You can't beat relaxing in your living room or on the balcony while the 2yo naps soundly in the private bedroom.

Did you purchase through Disney or resale? What is the difference? Is there any benefit to purchasing through Disney?

We decided that we really liked Saratoga Springs, which you can only buy through DVC at present. The promotional pricing (was $79 per point, now $84 pp) helped, as did the 50 year contracts.

Main benefit to buying through DVC is the financing, which couldn't be easier. Also you can only get SSR through DVC, and that's the only resort with the 50 year contracts. All of the other properties only have 38 yrs left. Depending on your age this may or may not be a factor.

If you go with a resale, you will save a few dollars. But the process can take a lot longer, and depending upon your needs, it may be hard to find a contract that fits your needs.

Does anyone know what the current loan rate is for a standard 5year loan for DVC points?

For 10 years, direct debit, it is 9.75%. Not sure if it is lower for 5 yrs, but I do know there is no pre-payment penalty. So you can always finance for 10 yrs and make additional payments.

I would love to go every year, and if we owned down there, it would make it a lot easier. Of course, his opinion is if we were going to buy a timeshare, buy in one of the other timeshare resorts for half the price.

Our main reason for DVC was wanting to stay on-site. To us, you can't "do Disney" any other way.

We also knew that a certain level of quality will always be present in the Disney resorts. Yes, I'm sure we will come across isolated instances of lackluster service or housekeeping fubars, but overall you know that you have a strong management company supporting your timeshare purchase.

Rocketriter makes a decent point about the value of DVC, but realistically that situation can change at any point in the coming years. If DVC were to stop exercising ROFR, the resale prices certainly will decline. But as long as DVC is actively selling points, they should contine to exercise ROFR when appropriate. After all, they would have serious trouble selling SSR at $84 or 89 per point if you could buy Wilderness Lodge at $50 pp on the resale market.
 
Do you tend to use your points from year to year, or bank them to use in one lump sum?

We use a combination of banking and borrowing to travel every other year. Keep in mind you can only bank one year ahead - so you can bank 2004 points into 2005 - but then they need to be used in 2005 - you can't save them for 2006 (Disclaimer, all years in "use year")

Is there any cost to bank them? Do you pay your maintenance fees when you use them, monthly, or year to year?

No cost, but you do need to pay attention to the rules and deadlines.

We pay our dues once a year in a lump sum - bill is one my desk right now.

Which is the best resort to buy in?

Why, our home resort, BWVs, of course....no, really, if you want to buy from Disney, your only option is SSR. Which has some very nice features. Or Vero Beach. If you want to buy resale, all resorts are open to you. All have advantages - it depends on what you like. If you are looking for "bang for the buck" consider OKW. If your children threaten to grow gills, consider BCVs. If you spend all your time at the MK, consider VWL.

Have you had any trouble getting other resorts when they are not your home resort?

Haven't tried. Only one trip to date, at our home resort, booked eleven months out. Most people don't report problems, but there are resorts that are harder to get into, and times of year that are harder. Don't plan on spending the Holidays at VWL unless you own there (you could get lucky). In general, larger resorts (OKW, SSR) should have more availability on shorter notice.

How difficult is it to rent your points, or let a family member use them?

Haven't tried

Have you been pleased with your DVC purchase?

I'm not ranking it with the best thing I ever did, but yes, we have been pleased.

Did you purchase through Disney or resale? What is the difference? Is there any benefit to purchasing through Disney?

we bought a resale contract. When we bought, Disney was only selling BCVs - and no sales guide got in contact with us for three weeks. By that time, we had a purchase agreement on a resale.

There are advantages to buying through Disney. It goes fast. There is little doubt you will close (with a resale, the sale needs to get through Disney, the seller could change their mind). You can make ressies when they get your deposit.
 
The others have done a good job answering your other questions, so I thought I would respond to your DH's comment about buying at 1/2 the price somewhere else. I am also a Marriott owner, and the resale is pitiful. I bought resale at $6900 on a timeshare that the original owner had bought new for $18,500. I think he had had it for 5 years or so before we bought it, but he had had it for sale for two years, and we were the only bite, which is why we got it so cheap. Dues are about $700 for the week, AND YOU MUST STAY FOR THE WHOLE WEEK. If you want to stay longer, you must pay cash, unless you have another week you banked, so then you would have to stay two weeks. You must reserve a year in advance, and stays are Sat to Sat. usually. If you want to stay at any other Marriott other than your own resort, it costs you $50, and if you want to go anywhere other than a Marriott, you have to pay a fee thru II, perhaps $100, but I can't remember the exact amounts. You can't cancel or change your dates without a penalty, either, so that's more $$. In short, other timeshares charge for what Disney gives you for free, and there are many hidden costs. Since I bought Disney first, it was a shock to find out about other timeshares. I love my DVC because it is so easy to use, and I have also rented my points, and it's easy, too. Send me a PM, and I will explain it to you.:p
 
Both myself and hubby wanted to do this, and i finalyy told hem it was now or never. He has always to go to Hawaii and do the Alaskan cruise, and i;'m sure you can figure out what i told him. The cost of those two trips is pretty much the cost of the 175 points, enough said about that. Just to mention going to get 25 more points, which is my xmas for the hubby!!
 
Hey, why not "sell" your hubby using a little modern technology?

Go to: www.disneyvacationclub.com

Click on the membership information icon.

Then, in the first paragraph click on the words "free video." Note the word "free" means it costs you zip. :teeth:

Then click on video package and the lovely folks at DVC will send you a fantastic video. This should sell your hubby.

Good luck! :earsboy:
 
I ordered the video and tried to place it in a location that he would just happen across it. I also called one of the reps (Randy Krueger if anyone is interested, he was INCREDIBLY helpful!), and he is sending me even more information.

I think the parts that will sell him is:
1) The price actually stays up on resales
2) easier to sell if the need arises
3) flexibility of the points system (can go when we want, and not be fixed to a particular week

I'm hoping when I get more information that I will be able to sell this to him cause I really want to buy into it. I am really liking the concept of the Saratoga Springs resort because we are from NY, so it would be like taking a trip to NY while in my favorite location in the world!!
 
Shorty, two things in your post give me pause.

I am trying to convince my hubby to buy into the DVC, but he is fighting me on it.... I would love to go every year, and if we owned down there, it would make it a lot easier.

If you didn't own DVC, do you realistically think you would be visiting WDW at least every other year and paying to stay onsite at a Disney deluxe hotel? Your answer to this is key to whether you would really end up keeping and enjoying DVC, using it as you hope.

Some folks here have pressed their spouse into buying DVC then ended up loving having it together. However, others have done so, only to end up taking solo trips, having stress in their marriage over the issue, compromising by taking non-DVC trips with their DVC points (usually not a good value) or selling their DVC later.

Remember that once you buy in, you are locked in to loan payments and maint fees. If this means you'll have less money available for vacationing, an expensive timeshare purchase (like DVC) could effectively reduce your future WDW time. For this reason, some people find that a less expensive timeshare actually makes it easier to vacation yearly (or more often). At least, that's what we found!! If only onsite vacations are acceptable to you, then that's not an option. We love our offsite timeshare condo vacations. ::yes::
 
if that doesn't convince you then get him to look at these sites

www.atimeshare.com
www.dvc-resales.com
www.timesharesbyresale.com shontell crawford
www.thetimesharewarehouse.com
www.reid4florida.com
http://tra-resales.com/

I brought the majority of mind at $57.50 for OKW - do you see anything near this price - no - DVC buys back any in their opinion that is undersold....

as somone pointed out that will only last as long as DVC continues to built - well with SSR going well and Eagle Pines to be started - they will be selling for at least the next 10 years if not 15 - more than enough time for you to use it enough to get your original investment out of it.

generally it takes 7 to 15 years to get your investment out of a DVC resort buy...

other timeshare take much, much longer - some will never because the timeshare are very over priced and the resort management doesn't care about resales - my Westgate every other year costs me $7,000 - I am trying to sale it now for $1,000 - and Westgate is still raising the fees and do nothing!!!! However they are renting to the public for $45 a night - see where the money goes to sales - not to owners - Marriott is better than most - Westgate is worst than most....

$45 a night does not cover what Westgate charges me for maintence - see my problems with it!!!!
 



















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