Question regarding 1 bdrm occupancy with AP discount

[nvrenoughdisney]

I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm trying to book one night using my AP discount at SSR in a one-bedroom. I have a family of 5. If I booked through DVC this wouldn't be a problem. However, when I call the resort reservation number they won't allow me to put 5 people in the room and they say they have no idea why DVC allows 5 because it is against the fire code. Any experience with this? Is it possible to put 5 in the room without going through DVC?

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Is it possible to put 5 in the room without going through DVC?

Only if one person is under age 3.

I think different rules apply when the room is filled via the condo association versus through CRO.

 

[nvrenoughdisney]

Only if one person is under age 3.

I think different rules apply when the room is filled via the condo association versus through CRO.

OK thanks. That seems to make no sense that the fire code changes based on who you book through! Very frustrating.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

OK thanks. That seems to make no sense that the fire code changes based on who you book through! Very frustrating.

My thought is that if a room is released to CRO, it falls under hotel rules. If a room is booked through DVC on points, it is a timeshare and subject to condo association rules and regulation.

Can't guarantee this is the case, but I've seen enough stuff like this it wouldn't surprise me. They're entirely different sections of Florida code.

 

[Dean]

I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm trying to book one night using my AP discount at SSR in a one-bedroom. I have a family of 5. If I booked through DVC this wouldn't be a problem. However, when I call the resort reservation number they won't allow me to put 5 people in the room and they say they have no idea why DVC allows 5 because it is against the fire code. Any experience with this? Is it possible to put 5 in the room without going through DVC?

The issue is that the official occupancy is 4, not 5. The 5 is an added benefit or flexibility that DVC has given.

 

[DebbieB]

OK thanks. That seems to make no sense that the fire code changes based on who you book through! Very frustrating.

Many people think Disney occupancy rules are fire code. They are not always the same. Disney can't go over fire code but they can make occupancy rules less than fire code and likely do. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense that fire code changed when they added Murphy beds to studios, increasing the occupancy limit from 4 to 5. Likely they were less than fire code to start with and may still be, especially considering they are sprinklered buildings.

 

[nvrenoughdisney]

Many people think Disney occupancy rules are fire code. They are not always the same. Disney can't go over fire code but they can make occupancy rules less than fire code and likely do. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense that fire code changed when they added Murphy beds to studios, increasing the occupancy limit from 4 to 5. Likely they were less than fire code to start with and may still be, especially considering they are sprinklered buildings.

So that makes sense! Guess the rep on the phone didn't know the difference either. Looks like I'm out of luck.

 

[Dean]

So that makes sense! Guess the rep on the phone didn't know the difference either. Looks like I'm out of luck.

If you don't need ME, just book it and let the resort know at check in. For anything that DVC will allow, the resort should also. It is not uncommon with timeshares that there are occupancy nuances. With RCI and II 2 BR routinely trade for 6 but often sleep 8. If you know this is true, I've never heard of anyone being turned away when they were within the resort occupancy but not within RCI or II's occupancy listing.

 

[Deb & Bill]

HGTV is pretty strict with occupancy. There is no plus one under the age of three. Studios sleep two. One bedrooms sleep four. Two bedrooms six. Three bedrooms eight.

 

[Dean]

HGTV is pretty strict with occupancy. There is no plus one under the age of three. Studios sleep two. One bedrooms sleep four. Two bedrooms six. Three bedrooms eight.

It depends on the design of the resort and rooms. Sometimes the occupancy is less than the bedding capacity and strictly enforced. I know there are at least a few resorts that hold RCI exchangers to the exchange capacity even if it's less than the sleeping capacity. Exchanges are tied to private sleeping capacity which is almost always 2 for studios, 4 for 1BR & 6 for 2BR. But MOST will allow the sleeping capacity in the unit. Thus it's important for DVC members to know that when they exchange, they can only do so accordingly but they should investigate any destination resort to see what their policies are and their unit types/occupancy prior to confirming an exchange or listing a resort for an ongoing exchange. Sometimes resorts have different configurations such as some sleep 6 and some sleep 8 or larger or smaller villas. In some cases this can be determined and controlled up front with the exchange but one can always make a request with the resort itself. I know of a resort in HH that will give you 2 hours to get under occupancy limits if one is over and if you don't, they will kick you out completely.