Queen Elizabeth funeral and looking forward

[fla4fun]

Surely even Meghan and Harry couldn't stoop that low ...

You would like to think so, but look at the fact that people are still interviewing people about the “last words” his mother spoke, 25 years later. That type of thing sells, unfortunately. I can understand why the family might be uneasy. I am not saying they are as low as the paparazzi, but they have shown themselves to be less than trustworthy when speaking about the BRF. Even if any of what they allege is true, it’s never a good thing to air your family’s dirty linen in public. Considering their track record with the truth, I don’t know that I would believe their version of her last moments. We have heard nothing from Charles or Anne regarding that time, and that is how it should be.

I would have had a lot more respect for H&M if they had simply said they had some disagreements regarding the lifestyle of a working royal and decided to step back to become non-working royals/private citizens. Period. We don’t need to know who isn’t speaking to who, or why. We don’t need to know the intimate details of very personal moments within the family. The only thing any of them are obligated to share are details that pertain to their work as royals, and H&M aren’t a part of that anymore. I would be more interested in how their foundation helps people than in reading any memoir they plan to write.

 

[mousefan73]

I lost respect for them when on Oprah told the world about a royal family member asking about Archies color and to be honest we dont know the excate context or conversation. By even talking about they were openly pointing fingers publicly implying racism by Royal family, knowing they could not or would not respond publicly to that.

 

[EMom]

I lost respect for them when on Oprah told the world about a royal family member asking about Archies color and to be honest we dont know the excate context or conversation. By even talking about they were openly pointing fingers publicly implying racism by Royal family, knowing they could not or would not respond publicly to that.

There were multiple false claims made by Meghan during that interview, most of which could’ve been debunked with 1-2 minutes max of googling. Oprah’s team is more than capable of fact checking, but chose to endorse M’s verifiable lies instead of challenging her with the facts. Oprah was as sleazy as they come in that interview. I guess she had to repay them for the wedding invitation.

Using common sense will tell you that while Harry may be a bit thick and easily manipulated, she’s the biggest problem. She had ONE relative (mother) at her wedding. Forget her dad’s side of the family, not one aunt, uncle, or cousin from her mom’s side was invited, but plenty of newly met celebrities were. And hers isn’t a small family, plus the guests numbered around 600. She seems to have no familial relationships, aside from her mother. She has a history of cutting people off and not looking back.

Virtually as soon as they’re married, she repeatedly paints herself the victim and credits Harry with “saving” her. And Harry with his mommy issues, who wishes he could’ve saved his mother, finally feels a sense of redemption. In short order, Harry is estranged from his multigenerational family too, and physically isolated to boot. Well played.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Can you even imagine...selling interviews to talk about the Queen's death bed. Uggh. Me, I'd require nondisclosure agreements if Harry and Meghan want back into Royal circles.

The Rev interview was a week before Her Majesty passed away Plus threats to spill more family secrets. Their mouthpiece Scobie was providing comments while they were in England. Gayle King was leaking info the day after they flew back. Personally I can’t imagine how the RF could possibly trust those two ever again.

 

[BayouQueen]

The Rev interview was a week before Her Majesty passed away Plus threats to spill more family secrets. Their mouthpiece Scobie was providing comments while they were in England. Gayle King was leaking info the day after they flew back. Personally I can’t imagine how the RF could possibly trust those two ever again.

Well, really I don't see how they could either. If one has just read this and that random story, optimism would make you think it's a salvageable situation. But for anyone who has really followed the bread crumbs, there's really no chance of making things right. IMHO

 

[TippyThomas]

I still love Harry and Meghan

 

[mom2rtk]

For anyone who collects such things, I found the People issues on Queen Elizabeth yesterday. They also had National Geographic and Life magazine issues.

I used to buy Time and Newsweek on these events but times have changed.

 

[tcufrog]

I lost respect for them when on Oprah told the world about a royal family member asking about Archies color and to be honest we dont know the excate context or conversation. By even talking about they were openly pointing fingers publicly implying racism by Royal family, knowing they could not or would not respond publicly to that.

I don't know if it's true. It happened to me though and I was livid. The first thing my DH's relatives in India asked after I gave birth to our older son (during which I had an emergency C-section) was what skin color our son had. It didn't even occur to them to ask after my and our son's welfare. Apparently, all that mattered was rather or not our son had lighter skin than his father had.

We were angry and stopped talking to them for quite a while. Our kids still haven't gone to India and not trusting his family there to treat them well is part of the reason. If that happened to Harry and Meghan I can't blame them for being furious and not staying silent.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I lost respect for them when on Oprah told the world about a royal family member asking about Archies color and to be honest we dont know the excate context or conversation. By even talking about they were openly pointing fingers publicly implying racism by Royal family, knowing they could not or would not respond publicly to that.

Wouldn't you think the loss of respect would be better served on those who would even ask that question about a newborn baby?

 

[Marrila]

Wouldn't you think the loss of respect would be better served on those who would even ask that question about a newborn baby?

If indeed it ever happened at all.
Somehow after the batting eyes 1st real wedding and 2nd spectacle wedding were "explained" I felt I'd been had. Hard to know which whoppers are true.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If indeed it ever happened at all.
Somehow after the batting eyes 1st real wedding and 2nd spectacle wedding were "explained" I felt I'd been had. Hard to know which whoppers are true.

It's quite possibly a fabrication that's very true. Knowing how people are when it comes to questioning things related to race or ethnicity of people, British or not, I can totally see it as possible however. More like how an internal thought could be boldly spoken aloud. In terms of my comment to the PP's comment I'm a little taken aback that the response was akin to "they aired dirty laundry knowing the Royal Family would not do a public rebuttal" rather than the actual supposed comment itself towards the baby. An interesting fixation IMO.

 

[LSUmiss]

And if Meghan's story is true that she didn't know she had to curtsy to the Queen, and that Fergie had to teach her quickly moments before the meeting, then I would fully agree Harry must have done a TERRIBLE job of preparing her for anything.

Am I the only one who sees the absurdity in all of that?! Perhaps Harry did/does too & that’s why he didn’t “prepare” her.

 

[BayouQueen]

Am I the only one who sees the absurdity in all of that?! Perhaps Harry did/does too & that’s why he didn’t “prepare” her.

The "tall tale" I liked was in their engagement interview where she said she was relaxed when they first met because, being an American, she didn't really know who he was. And then the photos came out of her as a girl in front of Buckingham Palace and her best friend said what huge Diana fans they were.
So note to self, the girl likes weaving a yarn.

The good: She's looking fabulous these days. Really has the make-up and styling going strong. That's pleasant.

 

[mousefan73]

From my understanding only subjects have to kneel so Meghan wasnt required to correct?

 

[BayouQueen]

Photos have been released of the Queen's final resting place. Someone upthread asked about Princess Margaret. The tall stone leaning against the wall to the right of the Queen's stone is memorial to Princess Margaret.
If someone addressed this earlier, I apologize for repeating. I've dipped in and out of this thread.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Elizabeth-IIs-ledge-stone-Windsor-chapel.html

 

[Skywalker]

it’s human nature to be curious on how biology works and wonder what traits a child takes. Nothing wrong to ask the obvious- dont people ask “does the baby have blue ir brown eyes” same thing to me. When our nephew was about to be a father ( he has white European genetics and his wife Asian genetics) so naturally we were all openly discussing ( including him and his wife ) whether the baby would take on more European or Asian traits. There is nothing racist on that discussion. Same if lets say your side are all blond/ blue eyes and your spouse has black hair one is curious whether the recessive or dominate gene comes out. I hate this discussion that one is automatic a racist for simply asking the obvious. This article sums up my opinion on the topic. Context is everything. And we dont know that.

https://amp.spectator.co.uk/article...nder-what-colour-your-childs-skin-will-be/amp

I completely agree, there is nothing inherently racist about wondering who a mixed race child might take after. I am biracial myself, and my mom told me that they had the same discussions, might I be lighter, darker, red hair, brown eyes...whatever. There was nothing racist or sinister going on. Just musings and curiosity. My favourite was my grandfather who apparently joked "Yes, but will she have a Scottish accent or a Jamaican one?'' lol

 

[ford family]

From my understanding only subjects have to kneel so Meghan wasnt required to correct?

We are citizens not subjects.
I believe the protocol when meeting the Queen or other HRH in a formal situation is usually a bow or a curtsey.

ford family

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I completely agree, there is nothing inherently racist about wondering who a mixed race child might take after. I am biracial myself, and my mom told me that they had the same discussions, might I be lighter, darker, red hair, brown eyes...whatever. There was nothing racist or sinister going on. Just musings and curiosity. My favourite was my grandfather who apparently joked "Yes, but will she have a Scottish accent or a Jamaican one?'' lol

Thank you for that perspective. I love your grandfather!

 

[TLSnell1981]

The "tall tale" I liked was in their engagement interview where she said she was relaxed when they first met because, being an American, she didn't really know who he was. And then the photos came out of her as a girl in front of Buckingham Palace and her best friend said what huge Diana fans they were.
So note to self, the girl likes weaving a yarn.

The good: She's looking fabulous these days. Really has the make-up and styling going strong. That's pleasant.

Read Revenge. It will bring clarity as to who and what MM is all about. No surprise just verification.