PVB Tower Charts, Sales Date and more!!!

[Maleficent85]

I should have been clearer, what FWs aes you buying….they will book a FW 12 months in advance…if we are within the 12 months, it typically won’t be that calendar year for your first eeek.

If you are buying a FW in May, then if it follows suit from before, too late to book that one…

For a November FW, I’d assume any weeks that are after November 15th would count because we are still 12 months out.

The only other reason I can think that we won’t see any 2025 FW booked for November is because new buyers can’t buy until the end of October and not book until November 5th?

I'm wondering if not offering the fixed weeks through November 30th has to do with the fact that they are already allowing cash bookings at the tower through November 30th if you have a reservation that starts in October (I just checked room availability on Disney's cash site). December 2025 isn't an option for cash bookings yet so someone with a fw in December is able to secure that week for 2025.

 

[Sandisw]

So I believe this means, DVD intentionally shorted current PVB owners by reducing declared inventory (beyond what was clearly needed) so that there would surplus developer's inventory that could be used to satisfy those who just purchased. Except for semantics, I believe this is all very close to the same thing

Not at all. DVD always sets its declarations of inventory based on its projections for sales and the % that declared for PVB tower is pretty much in line with what they have always done for previous projects.

So, no, they did not purposely declare fewer units because they can only sell points to units declared. If they shorted the declaration, they would not be able to sell as many points.

DVD will declare units as sales progress so if they were predicting high sales, they’d declare more.

DVD can let anyone book rooms they own, which is what cash rentals are. But, as long as they remain undeclared inventory, DVD can’t sell points to those units.

Since declared, DVD can’t use those units for cash any longer and must follow the same rules for booking as all other owners.

It actually can benefit DVD to have undeclared inventory….look at RiV…because they can earn money via cash rentals instead of having more unsold inventory.

 

[davidhr]

Wow, nothing says, Hey, we're aren't sure this is really going to open on time, like beginning your mass marketing email with...

"Projected to open December 17, 2024, the proposed 10-story tower overlooking the stunning views of the Seven Seas Lagoon will be within convenient walking distance to the Disney Monorail, making it the perfect base for visiting Magic Kingdom® Park and EPCOT®."

And for clarity, that's an email from today.

That’s typical in corporate world. You open yourself to legal issues if you don’t say “projected”. A million things can happen that can delay that, even by a day.

 

[Sandisw]

I'm wondering if not offering the fixed weeks through November 30th has to do with the fact that they are already allowing cash bookings at the tower through November 30th if you have a reservation that starts in October (I just checked room availability on Disney's cash site). December 2025 isn't an option for cash bookings yet so someone with a fw in December is able to secure that week for 2025.

Another thought…they can only sell up to 35% of any given use day in a unit for FW. Given that there are so few units declared right now, holding off the booking allows them to sell them based on the eventual declarations within the next year.

 

[disneylandtour]

That’s typical in corporate world. You open yourself to legal issues if you don’t say “projected”. A million things can happen that can delay that, even by a day.

And "the proposed 10-story tower" is in case the top floor falls off.

 

[Sandisw]

Also, just talked with a guide. Here's something I didn't expect. DVD will charge people for two weeks of 2024 MFs on those points, even though you can't use them at the tower during that period. Just saying, maybe it might've been a much better public relations move to start with 2025???

MFs are based on calendar year and your ownership date. When a resort opens, you pay from opening date or the start of your first set of points, which ever is later.

Since everyone is getting 2024 points, they pay MFs from resort opening snd can use those points for stays beginning Dec 17th, when the units they are attached to open for occupancy.

 

[Royal Consort]

I thought you could buy from anywhere in the world as long as you were not financing with Disney? People bought today from U.K.

No, international purchases are rare with few countries permitted (the UK is registered). Disney won't acknowledge us, send Moonlight Magic emails, or take phone calls from us in Australia (you can't buy from continental Europe either).

 

[davidhr]

And "the proposed 10-story tower" is in case the top floor falls off.

You said it sarcastically, but yes. Something can happen and they have to rebuilt it or repair it with only 9 floors.

Until it’s officially done, everything is projected and proposed.

That’s why when you buy a contract for another resort, there is some text that says “hey, there’s no guarantee that the thing we announced/is in construction will actually happen”.

 

[Lorana]

That's what I figured. Anyone manage to squeeze out of their guide info about number of rooms with each view in each catergory?

Well, I also found out that my guide wasn't able to hold Week 49 for me in Standard Studio as requested and that it was unavailable, so that really cemented that I'm not buying in at this time, at least not for that many points.

 

[disneylandtour]

Good Evening,

It's all relatively new to me and unfortunately I can't buy add-on points from Germany.

We bought our first contract resale in the spring. And we read that the Poly is the last resort where you can buy a minimum of 25 points directly. We are flying to Florida in November and thought we would buy 25 points directly for the Poly (which includes the tower correct?) Is it no longer possible to buy 25 points?

I'm pretty sure it's possible to buy 25 points as a cash/direct purchase. With closing costs and zero incentives, this seems like not the best idea. But I am curious are closing costs on direct scalable to the size of the contract. Or is it more or less the same as 100 or 150 points?

 

[Phatscott25]

IMO, they took away a big incentive for buying and replaced it with something far less inticing.

I know I'm probably in the minority, but in my case this incentive is actually better. I needed the points for trip in January and am glad I (presumably) won't have to fight against current owners on 10/15. I wouldn't have used MB anyway. I can understand why many aren't happy though.

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

So when do we think DVC will declare another percentage of rooms based on initial sales? Seems brisk so far, anecdotally.

 

[Sandisw]

I know I'm probably in the minority, but in my case this incentive is actually better. I needed the points for trip in January and am glad I (presumably) won't have to fight against current owners on 10/15. I wouldn't have used MB anyway. I can understand why many aren't happy though.

I am glad it’s going to work for you! People will have to keep us posted as to how successful one is and if there are any stipulations in terms of how far out one gets to book!!

 

[Sandisw]

So when do we think DVC will declare another percentage of rooms based on initial sales? Seems brisk so far, anecdotally.

I don’t know what is being posted elsewhere, but it seems to me we have less people saying they are buying now than I thought we would.

They are pretty good at determine what they are anticipating for sales so I bet it will be at least a few months at a minimum.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Every DVC Podcast Host: Poly could be $250pp with no incentives!

DVC: Let’s make it $235 and give some small incentive to encourage getting a Blue Card… so $225pp at 150 points….

DVC Community: This is outrageously expensive and does not meet my expectation! I will not buy! I want a point chart like Bay Lake Tower and pricing at BPK fire sale!

Spouses of DVC Community: Ummm, I thought you said we didn’t have enough money to buy the direct points…. we can barely afford the ticket prices to go to the parks and food….

DVC Community: Honey…. you’re embarrassing me in front of my friends!

Why do you have to call me out like this?! That is absolutely what I want, plus studios that fit 5!

 

[Phatscott25]

I am glad it’s going to work for you! People will have to keep us posted as to how successful one is and if there are any stipulations in terms of how far out one gets to book!!

Thanks, I am too (as long as it comes through.. LOL)! I'll definitely report my results here once I do.

 

[DKZB]

And no Welcome Home credit?

Do we know the breakdown of room categories?

I don’t get the fuss about the “welcome home credit”. With a little work you can certainly rent your first year points for more than $20!

 

[atthebeachclub]

Here is a link to the weeks and points: https://dvcexplorer.com/FIN/FW/FW-Polynesian.pdf

I wonder why they are including the longhouse studios in here. Those aren’t available for this sale for fixed week, are they?

 

[MyDogTink]

I don’t get the fuss about the “welcome home credit”. With a little work you can certainly rent your first year points for more than $20!

They are two different offers.

Welcome Home was an additional fixed amount if you had a trip booked. I never fully understood that for members adding on. Essentially all members probably have a trip booked. The amount varies by resort.

Magical Begginings is the $20 rebate for selling your first year of points back to DVC. IMO this is better than renting out your points. The $20 is considered a rebate and therefore not taxable.

 

[CastAStone]

And "the proposed 10-story tower" is in case the top floor falls off.

Proposed is legalese that indicated that the timeshare is not approved in all markets yet.

They were using proposed on DLT after it *opened* until they got all their ducks in a row.