PSA - please give up your seat if someone needs it more

[sam_gordon]

Judging would be asking why didn't Sam offer his seat to a 8 month pregnant woman.

The comment was why didn’t a single person offer a seat. We can't specifically judge individuals. Do we think every person seated has a hidden disability?

People aren't obligated to offer a seat, even if they are able.

I agree with the sentiment in the OP. Posters are attacking the suggestion that guests should even consider offering a seat.

Do we think every person seated is disability free? Sorry, yes, OP WAS judging everyone seated.

 

[Lewisc]

Do we think every person seated is disability free? Sorry, yes, OP WAS judging everyone seated.

I read it the exact opposite. Poster is disagreeing with the notion that 100% of seated pax have a hidden disability.

 

[sam_gordon]

I read it the exact opposite. Poster is disagreeing with the notion that 100% of seated pax have a hidden disability.

And so judged everyone seating.

 

[focusondisney]

People need to be responsible for themselves and not expect other people to cater to their needs.

I agree! If a mother absolutely needs a seat for herself & her toddler, waiting til they are exhausted & everyone else is leaving at the same time isn’t the best decision. Everyone should do what they need to in order to take care of themselves & their families.

 

[Lewisc]

And so judged everyone seating.

If the shoe fits

 

[lowlight]

If the shoe fits

Or the dirty Disney public transportation pole, in this case.

 

[Lumpy1106]

The arguments in this thread are hilarious. WDW buses are not like regular buses in a big city. Everyone gets on in in one location and gets off in one location - it's not like the people you are riding with are complete unknowns. A handful of people may have some unseen disability but an entire bus? No, that's not a thing. True, the woman with the kid could have waited for the next bus like I did, but OP is right - I don't think it's unreasonable for an able-bodied man, or woman to give up their seat. Funny how common decency takes a vacation when some people are on vacation.

 

[TCRAIG]

I agree! If a mother absolutely needs a seat for herself & her toddler, waiting til they are exhausted & everyone else is leaving at the same time isn’t the best decision. Everyone should do what they need to in order to take care of themselves & their families.

To me - this statement right here is the textbook definition of judging -

 

[focusondisney]

To me - this statement right here is the textbook definition of judging -

To me….no more than thinking everyone else should jump up to accommodate her.

 

[TCRAIG]

To me….no more than thinking everyone else should jump up to accommodate her.

Not everyone - just someone...which the OP did…

 

[Neener16]

Yikes, this thread. I am fortunate to go to Disney once a year. My experiences is that most times people recognize when other people might need a seat and they offer it. It’s not like the woman boarded the bus and demanded somebody get up for her. I have the opposite problem. I’m over 65 and people sometimes assume I need to sit down, which is not the case yet but I do appreciate it.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Not everyone - just someone...which the OP did…

It's a Disney bus in a destination that has thousands upon thousands of guests per day, many comprised of families, many who travel with kids, elderly, people who walk many more steps and go harder than their everyday lives. The woman described in the OP is not unique at Disney she's part of the majority really which makes the likelihood of there being like people on each mode of transportation higher; you can probably deduce that other people on said transportation "need" seats in a more equal way and when that is the case you can look at the situation differently.

If it makes the OP feel better to have offered her seat that's great but it doesn't need a PSA here just to draw attention to it.

 

[Kooks and Bay Bay]

Not everyone - just someone...which the OP did…

Yes the OP did but also the OP judged everyone else on the bus without knowing them.
The OP had hoped someone ELSE would have done it so they didn't "have" to.
And THAT is the real point of this thread, create attention for the OP's "good deed" while shaming others.

I'm sure most of us have given up our seat at one point to someone that looked like they needed it more but we don't come on here and tell everyone...

 

[fla4fun]

It’s okay to give up your seat to someone you see having problems standing on the bus.
It’s okay to refuse to take that offered seat if you don’t want to.
It’s okay to not give up your seat for someone else unless asked to by the bus driver (rare, but I have seen it happen).
It’s okay to wait for another bus if the one sitting in front of you is standing room only and you need a seat.
It’s okay to go to the park later or leave earlier to avoid the most crowded times on the transportation system.
It’s okay to take a MV and avoid the buses altogether.

None of these options are better or worse than any other. They are simply options. Each person has their own reasons for choosing one option over another and I am not going to shame them for their choice.

 

[The Mayor]

No, probably not. But why should someone give up their seat when they were there first just because?

Human decency!!! Politeness!! Which seem to be severely lacking in the world today. I'm a healthy senior citizen so I always give up my seat to woman, whether young, elderly, pregnant or struggling with toddlers. I'll also give up a seat to aa man if they look like they need it. It's how I was raised and shouldn't even be an issue.

If she had waited for the next bus she would have still been standing at the bus stop so that point is baseless. At least standing on the bus she got back to her resort quicker.

 

[Chuck S]

Even still she could only manage to get her toddler seated (there wasn’t enough space for both) and she still had to stand the whole way back to the hotel. Do better people.

But you miss the point. While it is common courtesy of yesteryear to offer your seat to ladies, the fact is you gave up your seat to a toddler, not the mother. And infact, the mother remained standing HOLDING AN INFANT to let her toddler sit, instead of sitting herself. Not the best decision for the safety of all concerned on a moving bus. Now why would it have been safer for her to sit with her infant, and not let the toddler sit? Her point of balance is thrown off holding the extra weight, all it would take is one tight turn one bus and her infant and she could have been serioulsy injured. So yes, you are correct, a woman carrying a young child should not stand on a moving bus, and either should have been offered a seat (which she declined) or waited for the next bus at the more stable bus stop.

Society has changed. And now that I have lost a lost of my balance due to a rattlesnake bite and nerve damage because of it, and after a young woman chewed me out for holding a door open for her at the mall, I feel much less inclined to be a gentleman, and risk falling on a moving, full to the brim, Disney bus.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

But you miss the point. While it is common courtesy of yesteryear to offer your seat to ladies, the fact is you gave up your seat to a toddler, not the mother. And infact, the mother remained standing HOLDING AN INFANT to let her toddler sit, instead of sitting herself. Not the best decision for the safety of all concerned on a moving bus.

Society has changed. And now that I have lost a lost of my balance due to a rattlesnake bite and nerve damage because of it, and after a young woman chewed me out for holding a door open for her at the mall, I feel much less inclined to be a gentleman, and risk falling on someone on a moving bus.

What point did I miss? I gave up my seat for a family who needed it more than I did at that moment. Unfortunately there was not enough space for both the lady and the toddler to sit down together. That she decided that it would be safer for her to stand and her toddler to sit has nothing to do with me. I probably would have made the same decision when my kids were little.

I am thankful for all of the strangers who have been kind to me over the years because reading this tread makes me think that they are few and far between. That is a very sad commentary on the state of the world that we live in.

 

[georgina]

Human decency!!! Politeness!! Which seem to be severely lacking in the world today. I'm a healthy senior citizen so I always give up my seat to woman, whether young, elderly, pregnant or struggling with toddlers. I'll also give up a seat to aa man if they look like they need it. It's how I was raised and shouldn't even be an issue.

Ugh. How sad that you feel young healthy women want a seat from an elderly man. It's like the men who feel a woman can't open a door by herself, we are not so weak and needy.

 

[Chuck S]

What point did I miss? I gave up my seat for a family who needed it more than I did at that moment. Unfortunately there was not enough space for both the lady and the toddler to sit down together. That she decided that it would be safer for her to stand and her toddler to sit has nothing to do with me. I probably would have made the same decision when my kids were little.

I am thankful for all of the strangers who have been kind to me over the years because reading this tread makes me think that they are few and far between. That is a very sad commentary on the state of the world that we live in.

Simple physics on which is the more dangerous.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Simple physics on which is the more dangerous.

If the probability of each falling is the same, then I agree with you. But the probability of a toddler falling is generally a lot higher than the mom. Hence - up to her to decide what works best for her family.