PSA - please give up your seat if someone needs it more

[sam_gordon]

You think that the OP’s reminder to be courteous is outrageous? What does that say about us if we can’t even acknowledge that sometimes people need help and if we’re in a position to do so - we should.

Where did you get that? In my post, which you quoted, I said what's outrageous is JUDGING A BUS FULL OF OTHERS.

I never mentioned their PSA.

 

[LilyWDW]

As someone who has issues standing on a bus due to medical reasons but does not LOOK disabled...

If you can not stand on a bus, then don't get on a standing room only bus. Period. Don't expect other people to get up and give you a seat. You have no idea what is going on with each and every person on that bus. Expecting otherwise is just asking for trouble.

Wait for the next bus or take other transportation.

People really should not be judging others.

 

[TCRAIG]

Where did you get that? In my post, which you quoted, I said what's outrageous is JUDGING A BUS FULL OF OTHERS.

I never mentioned their PSA.

What I see the OP ‘judging’ (your words not mine - I see no judging - just disappointment) is that no one in a whole bus load offered help by offering their seat..
And I am disabled…I know I would not be in a position to help other than I stay on my ECV so I won’t be taking up a seat on the bus.

 

[sam_gordon]

What I see the OP ‘judging’ (your words not mine - I see no judging - just disappointment) is that no one in a whole bus load offered help by offering their seat..
And I am disabled…I know I would not be in a position to help other than I stay on my ECV so I won’t be taking up a seat on the bus.

That "disappointment" IS judging. They feel they know better than everyone else on the bus what their individual situation is.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The theme of being polite to others is being lost to some but probably not in the way they are thinking

If you know you know

 

[Lewisc]

That "disappointment" IS judging. They feel they know better than everyone else on the bus what their individual situation is.

Judging would be asking why didn't Sam offer his seat to a 8 month pregnant woman.

The comment was why didn’t a single person offer a seat. We can't specifically judge individuals. Do we think every person seated has a hidden disability?

People aren't obligated to offer a seat, even if they are able.

I agree with the sentiment in the OP. Posters are attacking the suggestion that guests should even consider offering a seat.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Judging would be asking why didn't Sam offer his seat to a 8 month pregnant woman.

The comment was why didn’t a single person offer a seat. We can't specifically judge individuals. Do we think every person seated has a hidden disability?

People aren't obligated to offer a seat, even if they are able.

I agree with the sentiment in the OP. Posters are attacking the suggestion that guests should even consider offering a seat.

Judging is expecting others to do something you perceive is the right thing to do. In this case yes the OP's point is judging what a bus full of strangers was doing because they perceived it a certain way. Meanwhile not judging is that people aren't looking at others saying they should be doing something and especially not assuming that someone else needs it more.

 

[Anthony1971]

All Buses including Disney's in fact have priority seating for a person with Disabilities. If you identify yourself as such anyone who is not disabled must give the seat up. Basic curtesy is different but in recent years that has gone after all it all about me in the last years. See it on an hourly basis in NYC the last few years. From actually holding a door open for the person DIRECTLY behind you as the person in front of one did to walking down the middle of anything looking at phone or just plain stopping and thinking the person behind is wrong when they hit into the person. Seats the one next to you is for you bag or feet. Just ask a person to move the bag.....same reaction as some above. Anyone can defend what they want. I am not young and I will give my (rare) seat to a toddler not for the parent (see both men and women with a toddler and treated the same) I give it to a toddler so if a bus turns fast stops fast etc. so the toddler does not fly across the bus (or train).

 

[jimmymc]

This is better than the Tyson-Paul fight!

 

[Smugpugmug]

This tread is going exactly how I expected it to go.... LOL

Same here. When I read the OP, I was like "Yup this is going downhill by the end of page 1"

 

[Dug720]

That means she wasn't actively asking people for seats, right? Maybe, just maybe, she didn't expect a seat at all. Maybe she is a mature adult who knew that having two kids is not a disability, and babywearing isn't something terrible that should make people feel sorry for her.

Or she's accustomed to public transportation where you often have to stand.

Once I was the final person in line at the end of the night and there was PLENTY of standing room on there. I guess the driver was used to people who balk at having to stand and said he would call for another bus immediately. I noticed his nametag said he was from New Jersey and I said (honestly) "I'm from Brooklyn..." as I motioned to the standing space. He laughed and said "Get on here." Now if I'm in a bus line waiting at Disney and it looks like a lot of people are going to wait rather than stand I'll flat out say "I'm fine with standing. May I please pass you?" Some say yes and others I guess realize how they look and go ahead and get on.

 

[Dug720]

I give it to a toddler so if a bus turns fast stops fast etc. so the toddler does not fly across the bus (or train).

I've tried, but 9 times out of 10 the toddler ends up throwing a tantrum because they want to twirl around the pole.

 

[DeeBee3]

Now this is a thread!
Should we file under "generational differences" or just "times they are a-changing?"

 

[Lewisc]

Now this is a thread!
Should we file under "generational differences" or just "times they are a-changing?"

The tone of the OP guests who are able and willing should at least offer their seats to guests who appear to need it.
The tone of others posting. Only a chump would offer their seat.

Times they are changing Most drivers think stop signs are optional. Red lights and speed limits are optional, many drivers

 

[princesscinderella]

I've tried, but 9 times out of 10 the toddler ends up throwing a tantrum because they want to twirl around the pole.

My kids too when they were little, especially the monorail poles as they could really spin around those without a seat in the way like on the bus.

As to the issue at hand with this thread, I think it’s up to each individual person to decide if they want to offer a seat to someone who is having to stand on a bus, no PSA is necessary. There also shouldn’t be judgement if someone doesn’t offer a seat either.

 

[tzvdmd]

For years I vacationed at Disney World and spent many nights on Disney Transportation holding my son as he slept. I was never offered a seat. Had it been an issue for me I would have simply waited for another bus to pull in and gotten a seat on the empty bus.

 

[Lumpy1106]

This reminds me of one of my family's most infamous, if not favorite Disney memories;
We had flown a red-eye from the West Coast and spent part of the day the parks, ending up at Disney Springs for dinner. My youngest DD was about 6, is on the spectrum, and had been WWAAYY over stimulated. As a family we were cooked, but there was a line for the bus to get back to the resort. We could have stood and gotten on one bus, but decided our youngest really needed a seat, so we let the bus go, knowing we'd be first on the next bus. The next bus came, and as we patiently waited for the passengers to get off the bus so we could board at the front door from the front of the line, a bunch of younger guys cut the line and got on through the back door of the bus. We board with our daughter and there are no seats left. She's had enough, but instead of a meltdown, the rude guys who cut the line heard, in her loudest voice, "I WANTED A SEAT!!!!". You've never seen anyone vacate a seat so fast in your life. She got a seat, and I couldn't have been more proud.

 

[mikehn]

I ride public transportation pretty often. And I've yielded my seat many times. However, sometimes I've got a million things on my mind and dont execute so quickly. I think most people have good intentions, I just think lots of distractions get in the way. Another thing is lots of foreign visitors arent familiar with this etiquette.

 

[MinnieMSue]

People need to be responsible for themselves and not expect other people to cater to their needs. Yes if you want to get up and give someone else your seat absolutely do so but no one is required to or even should be expected to unless they are in the handicap seats and not handicapped. Everyone is exhausted and wants to sit and no one should be judged for doing so. For the most part it is first come first served.

 

[Kooks and Bay Bay]

Just because you were able to handle standing and willing to give up your seat does not mean that everyone else should have done the same.

I always do appreciate when I see someone offer their seat to someone else in need but I would never expect it and I'm sorry but at the end of a 32,000 step kind of day 3 days in a row I'm not exactly in the best shape to be giving up my own seat if I happen to snag one.

Only time I'll give someone the side eye is when they choose to set their backpack in the seat next to them and not move it when the bus starts to fill up.
This is not small town public bus service that only has like 8 people on the whole bus.