Proof that Fax Requests really work!

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The acceptance or not of faxes always has been a choice that each individual non-DVC resort could make for itself. There has been no order from Disney that all resorts stop accepting them despite what Mike Scopa's site said. The decision remains completely up to each resort to determine for themselves.
 
GoldenOldie said:
The acceptance or not of faxes always has been a choice that each individual non-DVC resort could make for itself. There has been no order from Disney that all resorts stop accepting them despite what Mike Scopa's site said. The decision remains completely up to each resort to determine for themselves.
This is exactly what I have been trying to tell everyone. :teeth: No one seems to want to believe me though.
 
I really did not mean to upset anyone with this information to the point of hostility. It's just that I have friends that work there and I know what their job is.

When you call 407-934-3400 (main number for CBR) you get the Disney Call Center. The number alerts the CM that someone is calling for CBR. If you call another number they know you need info on that resort due to the number you called such as Yacht Club.

After you get the Call Center agent (who will answer the phone Disney Caribbean Resort) she or he will try to answer your questions. Certainly some questions they can not answer and you will be transferred to the Front Desk of that resort.

The reason for doing this is to screen the calls and keep the number of calls going directly to the front desk to a minimum.

Philly81 thank you for your kind and considerate comments.

I live in the area and I have friends that work at the Call Center there would be absolutely no reason to make any of this up.

They can also connect you to any Disney telephone or room directly from the Call Center without having to transfer you back to the Front Desk as they used to.
 
Okay, so the Disney CM's are lying. Right.

I'm not upset. I just didnt think you wanted to be saying that they lie to guests in a forum full of Disney addicts. I mean, theres no going around it. There is no gray area. Either they are mistaken or they are lying. I do intend to prove it for myself when I get there in October. I am going into the Customs House and calling that number. 10 to 1 a CM behind the desk answers the phone.

Look, you are not upsetting me at all. I just cant get you to understand that it is a CM at the Customs House answering the phone and youre not going to convince me that Disney lies to its guests. So lets drop it.

The whole point is moot anyway. The thread is titled "Proof that fax requests really work!". Even if they lied to me and were at the CRO and not CBR, they still said that they accept them. Point made. Game over.
 

I remember one instance where I called the Grand Floridian, asking for directions to their cast parking lot. The person that I spoke with wasn't able to give me accurate directions. This, to me, adds some support to the idea that most calls are routed to a phone center, rather than to the actual front desk of the resort. I would think that if I were talking to someone actually at the front desk, they would have been able to give me good directions to a parking lot they park in every day they work. Perhaps I just got someone who was new, perhaps not.
 
As someone who worked resort front desk, I can assure you that no matter if you call the resorts direct 407-xxx-xxxx number, or press the Front Desk button, 95% of the time you will get the Resort Call Center. The reason for this is that when you have a 2,000+ room resort, with a fully loaded front desk, the back office gets bombarded with calls that they cannot handle. So, they all get forwarded to the call center. 95% of all calls can be handled by the call center, which in essence is a remote front desk. They have the same authorities and access as the actual front desk. In the case that they cannot handle the call, they can instantly connect you to the real back office. And thanks to "Disney Magic" they are at whatever resort you are calling or calling from. They are not lying... they are simply preserving the magical guest experience.
 
Okay, okay, okay. I get it people. Disney lied. No problem. If you're right then I am very disappointed in them. If they are at a central location at not at the resort then they should just say so. Why do they lie about it? And dont tell me that they didnt lie and that it was just a misunderstanding on my part. The woman stated that she was physically at the CBR front desk in the Customs House. So why the lie? I am just curious.

Chip 'n Dale Express said:
As someone who worked resort front desk, I can assure you that no matter if you call the resorts direct 407-xxx-xxxx number, or press the Front Desk button, 95% of the time you will get the Resort Call Center. The reason for this is that when you have a 2,000+ room resort, with a fully loaded front desk, the back office gets bombarded with calls that they cannot handle. So, they all get forwarded to the call center. 95% of all calls can be handled by the call center, which in essence is a remote front desk. They have the same authorities and access as the actual front desk. In the case that they cannot handle the call, they can instantly connect you to the real back office. And thanks to "Disney Magic" they are at whatever resort you are calling or calling from. They are not lying... they are simply preserving the magical guest experience.

Did you lie to guests when they called you? Did you tell them that you were at the front desk of a hotel?

I swear I am not trying to get anyone upset here I am just having a hard time understanding why Disney would lie about something so trivial. After all the things they do to make the place a family place, they are going to lie about something so simple?

And again, all of this is off the point.

The thread is titled "Proof that fax requests really work!". Even if they lied to me and were at the CRO and not CBR, they still said that they accept them
 
Why is everyone thinking I'm upset? I have a smile on my face and am playing with DS while I do this. I'm not upset. It's just that who answers a phone call is not what the post was about to begin with.

I'm not getting bent out of shape at all. I was just kind of shocked to learn from everyone that aparently has first hand knowledge of this, that Disney lies to its guests. I mean, that is what just about everyone here is saying after all.
 
It's been fun reading this thread, but I can't help but wonder why it matters where the CM that you're speaking to is?

As long as they can answer your questions or transfer you to someone who can, what's the big deal?

Just Wondering.... :confused3
 
When we were "trapped" in Disney last week because of the storm, I called down to the "front desk" to extend our stay. The gal told me she was at the front desk, and looking up our ressie. I was then told I had to call CRO though, since we were extending with an AP. Long story short, and I got disconnected..but no problem, I had her name. So I went to the front desk, and that's when I found out she wasn't "really" at the front desk, although she had told me she was. No biggy, I was able to call her back from the front desk.

I haven't send a fax in a long time, but we usually get our requests met (given when making ressie).
 
As to the topic of this thread, we used to have excellent results with sending in a fax. Have not tried it the last few trips.

As to Disney 'preserving the magic' - well they ARE called Cast Members. Many use stage names, and they are 'playing a part'. If the 'part' calls for them to be 'at' the front desk, that is where they 'are'. As to Disney 'lying' to us, well, last I checked there and not many 6 foot mice that dress and greet guests (and I think I'm glad about that! :teeth: ) but if you ask ANY CM they will tell you that Mickey is real. No matter HOW many times you ask them the same question. So, 'lying' is a Disney tradition, and one that many patrons pay big bucks for! ::yes::

Oh, and GoofyDad - go reread your posts... The Decaf comment was on the mark from a readers point of view... ;)
 
G00fyDad said:
Okay, okay, okay. I get it people. Disney lied. No problem. If you're right then I am very disappointed in them. If they are at a central location at not at the resort then they should just say so. Why do they lie about it? And dont tell me that they didnt lie and that it was just a misunderstanding on my part. The woman stated that she was physically at the CBR front desk in the Customs House. So why the lie? I am just curious.

She was simply preserving the Magical guest experience, which is one of our seven guest service guidelines.

G00fyDad said:
Did you lie to guests when they called you? Did you tell them that you were at the front desk of a hotel?
When I worked luggage dispatch, I was physically located in the luggage area. I had no reason to say otherwise.
 
I'm not sure why I would care about 'where' the CM was actually located. As long as they provided the service I needed at the moment. I mean...you don't really believe that 'sea life' walking around Epcot is really, dare I say...sea life?? I guess that's another Disney lie. If your boss tells you that you are to respond to customer's questions in a certain way then why would we find a problem with that? I'm pretty sure that when the CM I get at CRO gives me her 'name' she isn't giving me her real name. In fact, when I myself worked in CS, there were times I didn't give out my real name either. But, that's not the point here. If Disney wants their employees to answer a question a certain way, then so be it. Get over it. As long as you get the service you need at that moment.

As far as faxing goes....I really don't think they make a whole lot of difference. Anything I have wanted in a room I have had listed on my reservation. In almost all cases I have gotten what I asked for. Sometimes not exactly what I asked for but something even better. I figure I'm in Disney World...how bad can it be. It always amazes me to see people asking what room they should ask for...a specific room number to boot. Ask for what is really important to you..non-smoking, handicapped, close to an elevator. Then say a particular view would be nice. If you don't get what you want, then maybe it just wasn't possible to get if for you.
 
Thank you Chip 'n Dale Express for clearing this up!! Sometimes people get angry when they ask questions and then get answers that they don't want to hear. :confused3 I know I speak for many who appreciate your CM insight on these boards. Thanks for taking the time, effort, and occasionally grief. :umbrella:
 
Philly81 said:
Thank you Chip 'n Dale Express for clearing this up!! Sometimes people get angry when they ask questions and then get answers that they don't want to hear. :confused3 I know I speak for many who appreciate your CM insight on these boards. Thanks for taking the time, effort, and occasionally grief. :umbrella:
Who's giving him grief? Who got angry? Who got an answer they didnt want to hear? What are you talking about? I never gave Chip 'n Dale Express any grief, I never got angry, I never got an answer I didnt want to hear. I never got any answer. My question was whether they lied or not. That was pretty simple and straight forward. Everyone else keeps beating around the bush. It simply comes down to this and nothing else:

She was at the CRO and not at CBR = she lied (nothing magical about that)
She was at CBR and not the CRO = I was right. (still nothing magical :) )

It wasnt something like her telling me "Hello. Caribbean Beach resort.". I actually asked her if she was standing at the desk at CBR. I also called yesterday and informed her of this dispute and she told me that she was indeed standing at the front desk at the Carribbean Beach Resort at 900 Cayman Way Lake Buena Vista Florida.

Now will you all PLEASE stop acting like I am getting upset? I am about a thousand miles from upset. I think it is really hillarious though how no one wants to answer the question directly. LOL It takes a lot more than that to upset me.


Oh yeah, for the next posters to this thread.....

... I'm not upset. :rotfl:
 
luvthatduke said:
De Nile's not just a river in Egypt...
denial

GoofyDad since you are not upset and if you truely want to know. However if these postings are you being calm, I don't want to see upset. :)

First off, we are not talking about CRO, Central Resevations Office, which makes reservations. We are talking about the Walt Disney World Resort Call Center. It is a main switchboard that handles all calls coming into Disney World and also internal calls. They are not the same thing.

If you call the main number listed for all Disney resort the Call Center answers the phones. I have a friend that works there, so I am very familiar with how it works. They can tell on their switchboard which number was rang so they know how to answer the phone. My friend literallys answers phones for all the resorts and she answers it with the resort name. She is not at the resort. She could not be at all of them at the same time.

She can however transfer you anywhere you need, including the Front Desk. However even when you get the front desk of a resort you do not get those CM's standing out front. They are too busy to answer the phones. As Tyler who worked Pop Century pointed out, they call to the Back Office which is located behind the Front Desk. You know that place the CM's suddenly disappear to when you need a manager.

If she transferred you, then yes you could talk to someone in the back office of the resort. If you talked to the person who answered the main phone then she is at the Switchboard. She is however, as someone else stated part of the Cast. Lying, I don't see it as that. It's all part of the system.

I called Coronado Springs resort one day wanting the Front Desk, but I actually dialed the CBR number by mistake. When she answered CBR I said, "Sorry I wanted the CSR Front Desk", she said without any transferring, Oh, I can handle that.

My point in even mentioning this is, in reference to faxes is. Disney is very good at telling guests what they think they want to hear. You may consider that lying, some of us consider it magic. After all isn't magic about deception. Right now none of the resorts are giving any serious thought to what is on a fax for requests. They are using the ones downloaded into their computers from Reservations. You can certainly still send, but more than likely it will just end up in a pile not looked. Some such as Wilderness Lodge have made an official statement, others are just ignoring them without statement. As SafetyMom has stated many times on these forums, just add them to your reservations, as that is the best way to get them noticed.

When you call a resort and ask if you can still fax requests, Yes you can. Will they look it and try to honor it, they did not say that, they said you can send it.

I hope this clears up any confusion, I know I for one and probably everyone else are ready to let it go.
 
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