Pro Choice or Not

[declansdad]

I think in the fact that this is not an issue that a man is directly involved in, it will never involve his own body, so it shows a larger percentage of men saying that the law should control a woman's body.

I'm male and I'm pro-choice. I also believe that the father should have some say in the matter because he was directly involved. I don't mean in regards to making it legal/illegal but the choice at the personal level regarding having an abortion or not.

 

[declansdad]

When a man makes the choice to have sex without a condom or doesn't abstain from sex until he was ready to have children, he gives his permission over to the women.

I believe if I don't want a child I protect myself. If the man doesn't want a child HE protects himself.

That is your opinion but not one that I would ever agree with.

 

[wheeler1]

Female, mother of 2. Pro choice.

 

[PoohnPglet]

Female, mom of one and 100% pro-choice.

That being said - I would love to see abortion go away. Not because it was made illegal - which we know won't do it. But because we have all become so educated about how to avoid an unwanted pregnancy and allow our children that same education, and also because we have found a way to keep women safe from rape and incest that an abortion is no longer necessary.

Is this going to happen? We can hope. But until then - it should remain legal and safe.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

I also think there is a big misconception that if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade then abortion will be illegal. That is not the case, it will then become a state to state issue.

Similarly, there is a big misconception that Roe V. Wade permits abortion at any time for any reason. But it actually allows states to regulate abortion after the first trimester "in ways that are reasonably related to maternal health", and to "regulate, and even proscribe" abortion after viability, except to preserve life or health of the woman.

Most states do prohibit abortion after viability.

 

[ead79]

I am a woman and am pro-life.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

I'm male and I'm pro-choice. I also believe that the father should have some say in the matter because he was directly involved. I don't mean in regards to making it legal/illegal but the choice at the personal level regarding having an abortion or not.

I would love for the abortion decision to be always be made jointly between the man and the woman. But unfortunately, this is not always going to happen. When there is a difference of opinion, the tiebreaker has to go to the woman, because it is her body that the embryo is inside of.

 

[chobie]

True enough.

Personally, I am pro choice, but I believe the choice lies not just in the woman, but the male (or other 'creator'), also. That's just me, though. To each their own.

So who breaks the tie?

 

[Oreo Cookie]

Pro-privacy rights. End of story!

Me too!

I'm a woman and I'm pro-choice.

 

[declansdad]

I would love for the abortion decision to be always be made jointly between the man and the woman. But unfortunately, this is not always going to happen. When there is a difference of opinion, the tiebreaker has to go to the woman, because it is her body that the embryo is inside of.

Sorry I don't agree. If the mother does not want to raise the child but the father does, that should be considered. Otherwise, the man has no real say.

 

[Ariel Mae]

So who breaks the tie?

I don't believe there's a 'tie breaker', in this. It's an 'equal rights' opportunity (or, depending upon your view, dis opportunity) for both the applicants. It's an all or none situation, in my view. If the father is applicable, I believe he has a very clear say, and if he's not granted that say, then whatever was going to happen, shouldn't, b/c he didn't get to voice his words.

Just my view.

 

[chobie]

Sorry I don't agree. If the mother does not want to raise the child but the father does, that should be considered. Otherwise, the man has no real say.

So your saying a man can should have ownership over a woman's body as long as she is carrying part of his DNA?

 

[chobie]

I don't believe there's a 'tie breaker', in this. It's an 'equal rights' opportunity (or, depending upon your view, dis opportunity) for both the applicants. It's an all or none situation, in my view. If the father is applicable, I believe he has a very clear say, and if he's not granted that say, then whatever was going to happen, shouldn't, b/c he didn't get to voice his words.

Just my view.

What if he says no abortion and she say yes to abortion. Who gets the final say?

Or what if he wants and abortion and she does not? Who gets the final say?

 

[Ariel Mae]

What if he says no abortion and she say yes to abortion. Who gets the final say?

The final say is dependant upon the 'middle ground' that is reached. I mean, there's really no sure way of knowing how it's going to turn out, but I believe there is an equal say. Both sides should get some sort of input.

Question: Why is it that when we're asked opinions, anywhere, as of late, online and off, if we state one, someone automatically tries to 'debunk' it? (Chobie, this is not directed at you, btw. I meant to post this a while back.) Why does everything have to be come this great debate? Can't we just answer questions anymore?

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Sorry I don't agree. If the mother does not want to raise the child but the father does, that should be considered. Otherwise, the man has no real say.

It should be taken into consideration of course, but the woman still makes the final decision.

The purpose of an abortion is to remove the embryo from the woman's body, not to have someone else raise it. After a baby is born, the father absolutely should have the right to raise the child.

 

[JoyG]

Woman/mom who is pro life.

 

[chobie]

The final say is dependant upon the 'middle ground' that is reached. I mean, there's really no sure way of knowing how it's going to turn out, but I believe there is an equal say. Both sides should get some sort of input.

Question: Why is it that when we're asked opinions, anywhere, as of late, online and off, if we state one, someone automatically tries to 'debunk' it? (Chobie, this is not directed at you, btw. I meant to post this a while back.) Why does everything have to be come this great debate? Can't we just answer questions anymore?

Right but if there is a standoff, then someone has to have the final say. Who gets it if they cannot agree? You cannot force people to agree, can you?

And why should a man get an equal say in what happens to a woman's body?

Its okay to have an opinion that does not pan out in reality, but then just say so, ie "in a perfect world the man and woman would come to a mutual decision."

And I'm not trying to debunk it, I just don't see how you can have complete equality in this decision.

 

[Alesia]

I am pro-life for myself and pro-choice for everyone else.

 

[Ride Junkie]

What if he says no abortion and she say yes to abortion. Who gets the final say?

Or what if he wants and abortion and she does not? Who gets the final say?

The woman!

The woman!

 

[chobie]

The woman!

The woman!

Of course she does. It would be nice to think people always would agree on this, but that is not the reality.

It's interesting, but there seems to be this attitude that if other people beside the pregnant female are allowed to have a say, abortion will go down. That has not been the case in most of the states that have parental consent laws-the rate of abortion went up when girls had to tell their parents they were pregant. I'm willing to be if men got to decide if a woman had a baby or an abortion, we would see a lot more abortions.