Prince Caspian!

Just for the sake of discussion - a dissenting viewpoint.

We thought if the first movie was a 10, this was about a 4.

Just a few points:

We were apparently supposed to be aware that there was something important about trees in Narnia - Lucy was obviously aware, but I don't recall anything from the first movie referencing this.

It completely lacked a compelling villain. Yes, there was one - but he was simply a run of the mill evil king.

We kept waiting for it to come together as a coherent story and didn't think it ever did.



The movie is a 10 if you have read the books. It is a Christian series for kids (and adults alike) where each book feeds off of the previous book. The trees in Narnia speak and they did speak in the first one. When you go back and watch your DVD, you will notice it. When Aslan was crucified for Edmond's sin (treason) it was the trees that told Peter the High King to gather his army and go to war. ;)
 
Here are the pictures I took. My only complaint was that at that time of morning the sun hit the backdrop odd so it is funky lighting. It looks the same in the photopass pictures too. We went in the morning time.

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Eeeeek!!! That's awsome!! Too cute.
 
I did not like it at all:( I loved the books as a child and re-read them every now and then. They really ruined this one. Why stray SO far from this classic story. Reepicheep was just like Puss and Boots (what a surprise-same director as Shreck.) They turned Peter into a jerk. There were scenes added to the movie that never happened in the story. The CGI was poor at times-they still can't get the centaurs to look right (they look funny in Harry Potter too.) Shots were awful at times. The darkness in the castle scene was awful-muddy looking-hard to see anything going on. Uggg...I really was looking forward to this one. :sad2:
 

I saw it today as well. It was okay but the 1st one was the best!!! It dragged on and on to me.
 
I met the prince yesterday!!! What a dream boat.....he was so dreamy!!!! He is in a nok between Toy Story and the Little Mermaid show.
 
We saw it today and LOVED it! I highly recommend it for all Narnia fans.
 
DH and I went Friday night. He said he liked it, but not as much as The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. I tend to agree, but did like it enough that I plan to buy the DVD when it comes out. I have loved the Narnia books from childhood and reread them now and then. I thought the movie was done extremely well, although it did seem like there were an awful lot of battle scenes.
 
I thought it was ok as a movie... i didnt find how it connected to the first one. I didnt read the books so can someone explain to me what were the differences in the movies to the books?

Plus i dont get the Christian thing... what was christian about the movie? i saw it the same as any other movie.
 
I liked the 2nd one more than the first. It's been years since I read the books, so that might have something to do with it. I thought number two was much more compelling to watch.
 
I thought it was ok as a movie... i didnt find how it connected to the first one. I didnt read the books so can someone explain to me what were the differences in the movies to the books?

Plus i dont get the Christian thing... what was christian about the movie? i saw it the same as any other movie.

The start of the book has the children at the train station arriving in Narnia. There is no fight at the station. They spend a long time wandering around and do not recognize Narnia at first. They are not sure where they are. After a lot of wandering they find Car Paravel and figure it is their old castle after a while-not the second they arrive. Trumpkin tells them the story of Caspian. He is not as much of a jerk in the book. He is grateful they save him.

Caspian leaves in the night but does not flee with soldiers at his tail. His horse comes back to the castle after getting spooked and that is how they find out he is gone. His teacher plays a much bigger part. He had a nurse at the beginning that told him about old Narnia before his teacher Cornelius. They kicked her out. Caspian blows Susan's horn as a last resort in Aslan's How (stone table area) not towards the beginning. There is no battle in the castle of Miraz. Peter is an honorable person in the books and never challenges Caspian. They are all happy to get him his throne back. He would never fight with Caspian and denounce Aslan. WTH did they dig up that from? It was like they re-wrote the script from an angry teenager's POV. That battle was an awful scene-so sad. It added nothing.

The trees and Bacchus play a much bigger part in the book. They look like people. Susan never fights-Aslan says battle is a dirty place for girls. Miraz's men cut off his head after he trips in the fight with Peter. Because of the trees, they (Narnian's) win the battle fast. Aslan comes in much sooner to help them. He does not roll around chatting while Narnians are dying. Lucy does not ride off into the woods to find him. She talks to him long before the end. Susan as well. They travel all over the town calling people to join them. There is much more partying and dancing and wine:) There is no love interest between Susan and Caspian. He is supposed to be 11 or 12 in the book:) The White Witch never appears. They speak about raising her but never try. Caspian hates the idea.

If all they needed was a drop of Mans blood to raise her (Jadis), why wouldn't they kidnap a Telemarine and do it long ago? What a stupid idea in the movie! :laughing:
 
I thought it was ok as a movie... i didnt find how it connected to the first one. I didnt read the books so can someone explain to me what were the differences in the movies to the books?

Plus i dont get the Christian thing... what was christian about the movie? i saw it the same as any other movie.

I'm not a purest about the books, so I won't get into the first question ... but I can give a whack at the more important issue (at least to me) of the Christian theme.

Aslan represents Christ throughout the series. Obviously his resurrection in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe sends that message to even the least versed in Christian tradition. In this book/film the over-riding theme for Christians is the fact that the remnants of Narnia now doubt that Aslan exists anymore and even the Pevensie kids show some doubts ... barring Lucy who's faith is the real object lesson of this book/film. In the end, the Narnians and their leaders make a valiant effort to overthrow their oppressors but seem destined to fail before Lucy breaks out to find Aslan and ask for help ... which despite their lack of faith is granted.

Lewis came to Christainity in adulthood after forging a stellar academic career in England. His writings, and if you haven't read his non-fiction essay work I highly recommend them (especially Surprised by Joy and The Four Loves), return time and again to God's response to lack of faith from his followers and his forgiveness for the same. As the poet and pastor John Dunne put it best ... when we finally come to the Father for our daily bread, he does not ask "where were you yesterday" but rather fullfills His own promise to provide for us without reservation ... and most importantly without our proving ourselves worthy as we are not and cannot ever be.

When Aslan call the trees back to life and rescues the Narnians in battle, it is not because they are worthy or have done their best and deserve his help. He comes to their rescue simply because Lucy had the faith to find him and ask for his help.
 
Very impressive explanation jeffbear. :hug: Thank you for sharing and shedding some light on the theme for those who may not have picked it up. I thought the Christian theme was much more prevalent in this movie vs. the first.
 
Yeah ... I've talked to a lot of people who saw LWandW and were somewhat suprised at how simple the Christian imagery was ... Aslan as a Christ figure ... and seemed to distrust it because it was so straightforward.

A lot of it has to do with how familiar you are with CS Lewis. He specifically wrote the Narnia series to serve as modern Christian allegory for children, thus the imagery and allegory aren't going to be really deep and complicated. I see these films as a useful way to explain Lewis' basic apologetics to people who are unfamiliar with the Christian faith. So long as the Walden people and Disney are faithful enough to the imagery they can goof around with the story lines all they wany without bothering me.

Plus, I would think that the doubt of the Narnians about whether or not Aslan existed anymore or cared about them if he did would resonate with people in our era. There's a lot of doubt out there ... about a lot of good things.
 
Here is my pic... this is taken from a computer screen, thats why its a little blurry, i will scan my original pic tommorrow, i left it at home...

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