Presidential Election

Who do you think will win this years presidential election?

  • McCain

  • Obama


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Obama, but I still have problems with him.


Civil Rights: I've always believed the convicts of this country are taken care of far too well. They eat better than half of the country, most have at least cable television, and many other things. With Obama's reducing crime recidivism, we as citizens will be paying through taxes for convicts to get job training, substance abuse, and mental health counseling to have them re-integrated into our society. His fodder about how it's unfair that crack is treated differently in sentencing than power-based cocaine is ridiculous. Crack is dirtier and far more harmful to one's system than cocaine is, so why shouldn't it have a worse sentence? I also don't understand how he's going to change how every cop in america is twice as likely to search an African American or a Hispanic as a white for drugs.

Economy: I'm really happy that he's planning on ending tax breaks for companies who outsource their jobs, and giving rewards to companies who don't...but I don't think he'll be able to do that without extreme repercussions. I also don't understand where he's going to get all the money to provide all of the things (such as state of the art after school opportunities for children nationwide). Probably from money-having families (such as mine) paying a buttload of taxes just for having money. I will never understand why well-to-do people and families have to pay for things that have nothing to do with them. You wanna build a community center for inner-city children? Have fun fundraising, just don't take it out of my pocket because I don't live in the inner-city, and I will never go to that community center. Why even strive to have money when the first thing that happens when you do is you pay taxes up the ying-yang on programs you don't benefit from? I live in California, and I know in my area alone that there are a plethora of mothers that take welfare for granted and have baby after baby to keep that money coming in (and personally, I'd rather pay for those mothers to get job training, substance abuse, and mental health counseling than convicts). My taxes pay for the welfare those mothers use.

Foreign Policy: While I believe that the Kyl-Lieberman amendment was extremely stupid, I don't believe that giving Iran an ultimatum is going to help. Israel and Palestine will NEVER be two states living side by side peacefully. That fight has gone on for centuries, I don't think a man in power for 4 years is going to solve anything. African diplomats don't want us in their countries, and personally, if I was them, I wouldn't either. The UN workers are responsible for so many rapes in Africa that it's sickening. The people that are over there to help are the ones that are hurting.
*BIG LETTERS* GLOBAL POVERTY IS NOT OUR PROBLEM! *END BIG LETTERS* I'm sorry. So many of us in the United States live in poverty that you should really concentrate on your own country and generate wealth for your OWN country before you take on that huge task. I was hugely for Ron Paul's take on foreign policy which was basically to take the country back into isolation until we sort everything in this country out.

Immigration: While I'm HUGELY against illegal immigration (and I don't see how any californian could be for it), I am totally for undocumented immigrants paying a fine, LEARNING ENGLISH, and start the process of becoming a citizen rather than just free-loading on we Americans pay for (like health care). I also am for cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants, and strengthening our borders.

Education: All I can say is simplifying the application process for financial aid? count me in.

He also agrees with me on gay marriage: While he opposes gay marriage, he believes in full civil unions which give civil unions the same benefits as being married.

I just couldn't vote for a campaign that has a vice president who doesn't care about polar bears or women's choice of what to do with their bodies.
 
all i gotta say is, canadians, make room for one more.
if obama wins, i'm moving up there.
the man can't even back up his involvement with ACORN.
and i think terrorism is something to be taken into consideration.
ferreal.

i just have a lot of respect for mccain.
i think he is a great guy and would run this country well.
 
I'm for Obama, and I also believe he will win. :)
 

Obamas spreading the wealth economic plan is horrible.
 
all i gotta say is, canadians, make room for one more.
if obama wins, i'm moving up there.
the man can't even back up his involvement with ACORN.
and i think terrorism is something to be taken into consideration.
ferreal.

i just have a lot of respect for mccain.
i think he is a great guy and would run this country well.

Sadly, we've got just as many political problems as y'all do.
It's just that no one cares.
We've had 3 elections in 5 years.
We do have alaw that it's only every four years. But the prime minister who passed that bill, decided he didn't like his minority government, and broke the law and called an election. And guess what? We're still minority. What a WASTE of money.

Anyways, I would support Obama. But I can't fully say that, I haven't read his platform, I just know I don't like McCains' right now.
 
The thing is, the terrorists are like .01% of the countries population. Why declare war on a country for just a few people?
 
McCain or Mc(War/Same/Bush) is not what we need right now, he and palin's plans are to similar to bush's. we need change! (OBAMA08)

Uhm...wrong.

He may be of the same party in which there are set beliefs , but i can tell you, that both canidates for this year want change.

I really dont get the feeling that McCain likes Bush, i really dont.
 
Right now it looks as if Obama is going to win. But three weeks is forever in politics, so we'll see.

I'm voting for McCain, btw.
 
Uhm...wrong.

He may be of the same party in which there are set beliefs , but i can tell you, that both canidates for this year want change.

I really dont get the feeling that McCain likes Bush, i really dont.

I don't think he does. After what Bush and his people did to McCain in the 2000 primaries.
 
all i gotta say is, canadians, make room for one more.
if obama wins, i'm moving up there.
the man can't even back up his involvement with ACORN.
and i think terrorism is something to be taken into consideration.
ferreal.

i just have a lot of respect for mccain.
i think he is a great guy and would run this country well.

Really? You'd move to Canada just because of our president? I'm not too keen on the idea of an Obama presidency either, but I believe our country is the greatest in the world and I will never want to leave it.
 
There may only be .01% terrorists but it only takes 1 to kill thousands of American civillians
 
Really? You'd move to Canada just because of our president? I'm not too keen on the idea of an Obama presidency either, but I believe our country is the greatest in the world and I will never want to leave it.

it was a joke.
:confused3

i love my country too.
considering i have 5 family members in the service.
i wasn't being serious.
 
it was a joke.
:confused3

i love my country too.
considering i have 5 family members in the service.
i wasn't being serious.

I'm sorry. I've just heard too many people actually say this and they are dead serious. When people say it it just annoys me, especially because more often than not (from what I've experienced) they are serious!!


:flower3:
 
I'm sorry. I've just heard too many people actually say this and they are dead serious. When people say it it just annoys me, especially because more often than not (from what I've experienced) they are serious!!


:flower3:

it's all good.
lol.

i would like to visit canada someday though...
my pen pal used to say it was nice up there.
:rotfl:
 
I'd move if McCain/Palin were put into office. I'm planning on studying abroad in either Paris or Montreal anyway but if those two get elected that will pretty much be the deciding factor to whether or not I go.
 
it's all good.
lol.

i would like to visit canada someday though...
my pen pal used to say it was nice up there.
:rotfl:

I've been there...once. I went to Niagra Falls. I liked it!
 
Well Biden just said that there would be a test on America within 6 months of Obamas presidency calling it an international crisis. If Obamas vp is sayin that what should i think.
 
Obama.

I'm pretty much gonna end up being the only one on this board that's pro-socialism. And to an extent, I'm communistic.

Communism is a great thing, on paper. It's the greed of individuals that keeps it from happening in real life.

Just imagine- everybody as true equals. Given the exact same opportunities for education, health care, everything- no matter income or other circumstance.

Obama's the closest I'm gonna get to that.

As for why I don't like McCain, well, I do. I agree with some of his plans, and had Hilary won the primary, I'd stick my vote here in for McCain. But then he picked Sarah Palin. Never have I seen a worse candidate for public office. She abused her power while governor, used the state's money to pay for her kids to travel with her, and has no idea what's going on in the world. Those are not the qualities I want in a leader, thank you very much.

What I disagree with McCain about is the Iraq war and pro-life. While abortion isn't something I'd ever consider (unless my health- mental or otherwise- was endangered), it's not my position to dictate what others do in their own, unique, situations. I also don't agree with the war. It's a dumb reason we're in Iraq. And don't give me that mumbo-jumbo about weapons of mass destruction. I see our reasons for going into Afghanistan- but that's a whole 'nother issue.
 





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