Prediction for DL Tower price since VGF2

[DVChris]

GF2 is in line with Riviera and I think they will market DLT in line with Aulani. I predict starting base price will be the same then climb from there depending on demand. From what I’ve read here on the boards, Disney has never veered away from this pricing model for a new building at the start of sales - whether newly built resort like Riviera or refurbished building like GF2.

 

[DVCSunDevil]

GF2 is in line with Riviera and I think they will market DLT in line with Aulani. I predict starting base price will be the same then climb from there depending on demand. From what I’ve read here on the boards, Disney has never veered away from this pricing model for a new building at the start of sales - whether newly built resort like Riviera or refurbished building like GF2.

It will definitely be interesting to see, that's for sure. I just think there is such a high demand for VGC that DVC is going to try and capitalize on that with DLT. There are a lot of dollars in California and the southwest. It would be nice to see DVC not try to gouge people, though. I would love to see a price point more in line with Aulani. It doesn't really matter to me one way or the other, because I am not going to be buying a contract there.

 

[kmedina]

I still think the DLT price is going to be somewhere around $275-$300/pt. GF2 is a tough comparison because it is priced in line with the other WDW resorts, like Riviera, that are currently being offered direct by DVC. And GF2 has a shorter term of ownership, which makes it's price point somewhat "higher". Finally, GF2 is a refurb...not a new build. The price for GF2 seems about right.

DLT, on the other hand, is being added to a geographic area that is starving for another resort. It is going to be a new build, and I'm sure it is going to be gorgeous. Unlike WDW resorts like GF2, there isn't a lot of competition. And the California/Arizona/Utah/Nevada crowd is going to be all over this resort, especially with how hard it is to currently book rooms at VGC. I would be shocked if the price is below $275 and I expect it to be more around $300.

Here's a Nevadan who won't buy at that price. If it is that high, I will pick up GCV resale. My husband prefers that hotel, so I will pay the premium there. Even if DLT is priced in the low 200s or near whatever the other resorts are selling at, I am not buying it if it has resale restrictions that people can only stay there, like Riviera. I plan on keeping it forever, but you never know what will happen. I want a property that can be resold to stay almost anywhere (newer properties excluded sadly).

 

[DVCSunDevil]

Here's a Nevadan who won't buy at that price. If it is that high, I will pick up GCV resale. My husband prefers that hotel, so I will pay the premium there. Even if DLT is priced in the low 200s or near whatever the other resorts are selling at, I am not buying it if it has resale restrictions that people can only stay there, like Riviera. I plan on keeping it forever, but you never know what will happen. I want a property that can be resold to stay almost anywhere (newer properties excluded sadly).

Hey, I am right there with you. I actually wouldn't buy any direct contracts because the extras don't really mean that much to me. And if DLT does turn out to be close to $300/pt, I couldn't imaging spending $60,000 on a 200 point contract. That is the equivalent to two years of paying for my daughter's college!

However, I am from Phoenix and I do know two people who live there (one is a really good friend from college) who are willing to pay up to $300/pt. My friend's thought is that there will be incentives when they first open for sale, so he would actually be paying less than the $300/pt...but the top end he would pay is $300/pt. That is crazy to me, but to each their own

 

[tjkraz]

They'll fiddle with the point charts (compared to VGC) but the cost will be the same as others.

A studio at VGC starts at 17 points per weekday and 22 weekend. DLH will have enough rooms to do a Standard and Preferred view. Standard will go a couple points cheaper at maybe 16/20 while preferred is higher at ~19 weekday, 25 weekend. They'll also have the 2-person pods which run 10/13 for Riviera. I'm guessing 12/16 for DLH.

The average point value across all rooms will be higher than VGC for what is a lesser location, but the standard view will help mitigate the difference in the minds of DLH buyers.

At those rates, 150 point contract is still only enough to yield a couple long weekends per year in a studio. Tough to layer that on top of exorbitantly high prices.

The only "X" factor is if Disney moves forward with that pie-in-the-sky theme park expansion plan they floated before the pandemic where the parks would cross Disneyland Dr to surround the hotels. Seems a little far-fetched right now.

 

[kmedina]

Hey, I am right there with you. I actually wouldn't buy any direct contracts because the extras don't really mean that much to me. And if DLT does turn out to be close to $300/pt, I couldn't imaging spending $60,000 on a 200 point contract. That is the equivalent to two years of paying for my daughter's college!

However, I am from Phoenix and I do know two people who live there (one is a really good friend from college) who are willing to pay up to $300/pt. My friend's thought is that there will be incentives when they first open for sale, so he would actually be paying less than the $300/pt...but the top end he would pay is $300/pt. That is crazy to me, but to each their own

The main perk I like about buying direct is the ability to stay anywhere. All of the other perks have pretty much been stripped anyway. Even though I will never own at Riviera (due to restrictions), I'd like the chance to stay there. Must own direct for that. However, I am in the market for a VGF and a Disneyland hotel. I can do VGF2 direct and Grand Californian resale. That still gives me the chance to stay at new resorts, so it's all good should DLT come in too high or with restrictions. The only reason I have not already purchased VGF2 is I do not need points until 2024 and do not want to rent them out. My guide will call me when the resort is close to selling out though, so I can get in on time.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I think the price will be whatever the active resort (RVA, VGF2) price is at that time. I think the point charts should be slightly lower than VGC given the different resort offerings and location.

 

[Paul Stupin]

I'm still at $275. Completely different market, and I doubt they get permission to build anything else for decades.

A new debate! Once again, I disagree. My opinion is that it will open at whatever price the Riviera and Aulani are going for, with better incentives. One other thought you‘re not considering: It is indeed a completely different market, where a huge percentage of locals do not and will probably never stay overnight. You can do both parks in one day and drive home. And if you do want to stay a night or two, there are a ton of good, decently priced off property alternatives within easy walking distance.

Let’s say that by the time DLT starts selling, the minimum buy in is raised to 175 points. At your suggested price a new buyer would have to pay almost 50K for the cheapest contract, in an economy weighed down by rampant inflation which doesn’t appear to be going away anytime soon. No one out here even understands the concept of DVC, let alone the need to plunk down 50k to stay at a one, or at most, two day park on a regular basis.

More than half the building will also look out on a bland residential area, hardly the Disney bubble. For me, as a local who owns DVC and loves Disney (like you!), I’d rather take your advice and buy VGC for at least an immersive getaway. That said, though, I’d rather just go to the mothership in Orlando.

 

[The Jackal]

They'll fiddle with the point charts (compared to VGC) but the cost will be the same as others.

A studio at VGC starts at 17 points per weekday and 22 weekend. DLH will have enough rooms to do a Standard and Preferred view. Standard will go a couple points cheaper at maybe 16/20 while preferred is higher at ~19 weekday, 25 weekend. They'll also have the 2-person pods which run 10/13 for Riviera. I'm guessing 12/16 for DLH.

The average point value across all rooms will be higher than VGC for what is a lesser location, but the standard view will help mitigate the difference in the minds of DLH buyers.

At those rates, 150 point contract is still only enough to yield a couple long weekends per year in a studio. Tough to layer that on top of exorbitantly high prices.

The only "X" factor is if Disney moves forward with that pie-in-the-sky theme park expansion plan they floated before the pandemic where the parks would cross Disneyland Dr to surround the hotels. Seems a little far-fetched right now.

Don’t forget they will have closet studios, I mean pod studios like the RIV Tower studios. I see them a little less than VGC studios 16/20, standard 18/23 and preferred 20/25. They will take full advantage of the point chart.

 

[lovethesun12]

When (in general) will DLT be available for purchase?

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

When (in general) will DLT be available for purchase?

I've asked this before, too. Been told Spring or Summer 2023.
Works for me since I need to save up!

 

[upritbass]

The only "X" factor is if Disney moves forward with that pie-in-the-sky theme park expansion plan they floated before the pandemic where the parks would cross Disneyland Dr to surround the hotels. Seems a little far-fetched right now.

The rezoning has already been approved by Anaheim. It was floated during the pandemic but before the rampant inflation...

 

[Littlelulu01]

I predict a few price increases on all active resorts to reach $226 by the time dlt sales start and incentives offered to reduce costs as needed.

 

[Paul Stupin]

The rezoning has already been approved by Anaheim. It was floated during the pandemic but before the rampant inflation...

Where did you hear that Anaheim has approved the rezoning? I’m not sure that’s entirely correct.

 

[Wedgeout]

As we watch the build and guess the $. Saw these latest pins in Disneyland today. DLR specific!

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

As we watch the build and guess the $. Saw these latest pins in Disneyland today. DLR specific!
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Very unique!

 

[sethschroeder]

I think DL Tower's perception is going to drastically change as the new project unfolds. You essentially are going to be surrounded by the brand new lands that Disney is bringing with what I would expect completely private enterenances except for those jumping between parks.

Interesting investment if its all allowed to move forward.

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

I think DL Tower's perception is going to drastically change as the new project unfolds. You essentially are going to be surrounded by the brand new lands that Disney is bringing with what I would expect completely private enterenances except for those jumping between parks.

Interesting investment if its all allowed to move forward.

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Oh totally if they solidify Disneyland Forward actually happening especially with back entrances directly into the park before DLT goes on sale they could probably charge a premium for points. Just a “here’s our vision of things that *could* happen”… then probably not.

 

[zavandor]

They'll fiddle with the point charts (compared to VGC) but the cost will be the same as others.

A studio at VGC starts at 17 points per weekday and 22 weekend. DLH will have enough rooms to do a Standard and Preferred view. Standard will go a couple points cheaper at maybe 16/20 while preferred is higher at ~19 weekday, 25 weekend. They'll also have the 2-person pods which run 10/13 for Riviera. I'm guessing 12/16 for DLH.

The average point value across all rooms will be higher than VGC for what is a lesser location, but the standard view will help mitigate the difference in the minds of DLH buyers.

At those rates, 150 point contract is still only enough to yield a couple long weekends per year in a studio. Tough to layer that on top of exorbitantly high prices.

The only "X" factor is if Disney moves forward with that pie-in-the-sky theme park expansion plan they floated before the pandemic where the parks would cross Disneyland Dr to surround the hotels. Seems a little far-fetched right now.

I think you are spot on. The fact they passed at the opportunity of pricing VGF crazy high (given how much resale was going for and how much they were selling the few points they bad before the announcement) gives us a good clue the same is going to happen with DLT.

 

[ONeilcool]

I've asked this before, too. Been told Spring or Summer 2023.
Works for me since I need to save up!

I thought those dates were when it was planning to be opened, I imagine that it would go on sale well before that right?