Post 2016 DVC member..

[Pluto777]

Is it possible for a post 2016 DVC member to buy a Tables in Wonderland discount membership? I'm guessing no, but then it IS a membership extra that you need to PAY for, so maybe they let post 2016 resale buyers (like yours truly) buy it?

 

[erionm]

https://www.disboards.com/threads/can-resale-buyers-still-purchase-tables-in-wonderland.3574501/

 

[Pluto777]

https://www.disboards.com/threads/can-resale-buyers-still-purchase-tables-in-wonderland.3574501/

Thanks for the response; I read the entire thread but still it seemed very ambiguous...

 

[ScubaCat]

Thanks for the response; I read the entire thread but still it seemed very ambiguous...

The short version is: Just call TIW and buy it over the phone. I don't believe anyone has been turned down thus far, but worst case they can say is "no" anyway.

TIW: (407) 566-5858

 

[supersnoop]

I don’t think the TiW is considered a “Membership Extra.”

 

[Pluto777]

I don’t think the TiW is considered a “Membership Extra.”

Well, they say DVC, AP holders or FLA residents only, so it seems like an extra to me.... Then again the next logical question which I know is hotly debated is - at $150 annually, is it worth it? If TIW was 5$ for the year I would not think twice, but at $150? Obviously that depends on whether or not it SAVES you at least $150 or more.... Of course If your a person on a budget who did not PLAN to eat more expensive meals, will it motivate you to spend more $$ just to "save" money when you might have simply eaten cheaper meals like pizza, dined off site, or eaten at non TIW participating restaurants? Do we even KNOW for certain which restaurants will honor TIW discounts next year in 2018 and what they will be vs other discounts? This is a tricky question and requires detailed meal planning before one even reaches the parks to decide...

Scuba, thanks again for the info, but I'd definately prefer to buy onsite, not only because the card will last longer (possibly 13 months from what I read), but also because we are flying in from a long distance and one never knows for certain if plans will change and we will show up for certain..

 

[Marionnette]

Well, they say DVC, AP holders or FLA residents only, so it seems like an extra to me.... Then again the next logical question which I know is hotly debated is - at $150 annually, is it worth it? If TIW was 5$ for the year I would not think twice, but at $150? Obviously that depends on whether or not it SAVES you at least $150 or more.... Of course If your a person on a budget who did not PLAN to eat more expensive meals, will it motivate you to spend more $$ just to "save" money when you might have simply eaten cheaper meals like pizza, dined off site, or eaten at non TIW participating restaurants? Do we even KNOW for certain which restaurants will honor TIW discounts next year in 2018 and what they will be vs other discounts? This is a tricky question and requires detailed meal planning before one even reaches the parks to decide...

Scuba, thanks again for the info, but I'd definately prefer to buy onsite, not only because the card will last longer (possibly 13 months from what I read), but also because we are flying in from a long distance and one never knows for certain if plans will change and we will show up for certain..

The break-even point is about $750 spent on dining. Since you only pay tax on the actual dollar amount charged after the discount, you actually break even when you've spent a little less than that. The annual cost of TiW can be a great value if you regularly dine at TS locations and frequently include alcohol with your meal. I just returned from a week at Disney. There were 5 adults and we dined at signature restaurants every night but one. In our case, my brother's TiW was well worth the $150 that was spent on it since he also was in Disney for a week in July and used it for himself and his daughter during that trip.

If you're a budget traveler who will mostly eat counter service, offsite or in your room then it's probably not a good value. If there are only one or two adults dining and if there is no alcohol involved, you may be better off using a DVC or AP discount instead.

 

[JETSDAD]

The break-even point is about $750 spent on dining. Since you only pay tax on the actual dollar amount charged after the discount, you actually break even when you've spent a little less than that. The annual cost of TiW can be a great value if you regularly dine at TS locations and frequently include alcohol with your meal. I just returned from a week at Disney. There were 5 adults and we dined at signature restaurants every night but one. In our case, my brother's TiW was well worth the $150 that was spent on it since he also was in Disney for a week in July and used it for himself and his daughter during that trip.

If you're a budget traveler who will mostly eat counter service, offsite or in your room then it's probably not a good value. If there are only one or two adults dining and if there is no alcohol involved, you may be better off using a DVC or AP discount instead.

Isn't the break even essentially a fair bit higher than simply saying $750? Other than being able to buy for FLA residents, anyone buying would already have either an AP or DVC discount without buying TIW. The difference would only be the spread between discounts and alcohol?

 

[DduzDis]

I would look at this closer if the AP discounts are reduced or eliminated. Right now it would be the difference between the AP and TiW discounts covering the $150. We have a couple of trips next year so we will be looking at what happens with the discounts in Dec.

 

[Ben E N]

Isn't the break even essentially a fair bit higher than simply saying $750? Other than being able to buy for FLA residents, anyone buying would already have either an AP or DVC discount without buying TIW. The difference would only be the spread between discounts and alcohol?

Yes, the break is a little higher than $750. If you want to be real detail-oriented, look at each restaurant you plan on going to and see if they offer an AP or DVC discount. You could even put all of the information into a spreadsheet, with the restaurants in one column, how much you anticipate paying in the next column, then your various possible discounts in the next few. Set formulas to multiply the values to see if your TiW savings is greater than $150 or not.

Not interested in doing all of that work? Just think if you are doing 10 or more table service meals. That should ensure you reach the break even point.

 

[JETSDAD]

Yes, the break is a little higher than $750. If you want to be real detail-oriented, look at each restaurant you plan on going to and see if they offer an AP or DVC discount. You could even put all of the information into a spreadsheet, with the restaurants in one column, how much you anticipate paying in the next column, then your various possible discounts in the next few. Set formulas to multiply the values to see if your TiW savings is greater than $150 or not.

Not interested in doing all of that work? Just think if you are doing 10 or more table service meals. That should ensure you reach the break even point.

Without going into spreadsheets and such I've looked at the discounts at the various locations and done some quick math that way. The point I was making though is that the simple calculation that people make of only needing to spend $750 to break even Is not very accurate. At best, assuming one is either an AP holder or DVC, the break even would be $1500 or greater as the discounts obviously can't be stacked (with current promotions the break even increases even higher). The difference being alcohol and how much one would spend on that.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

TIW is not paid for by DVC so I do not think they care.

 

[Ben E N]

Without going into spreadsheets and such I've looked at the discounts at the various locations and done some quick math that way. The point I was making though is that the simple calculation that people make of only needing to spend $750 to break even Is not very accurate. At best, assuming one is either an AP holder or DVC, the break even would be $1500 or greater as the discounts obviously can't be stacked (with current promotions the break even increases even higher). The difference being alcohol and how much one would spend on that.

Yes that's about the number I would be aiming for as well. Perhaps a touch lower, due to the limits of the AP discount, but right around there. That's why I gave the 10 meals number as a ballpark figure to base it off of. 10 sit down meals for a family should run right around there.
Not a whole lot of value on a DVC forum, but it is worth noting that TiW is also good at the food courts at Pop Century and AoA. This came in handy to me during a marathon weekend trip last year.

 

[CraigInPA]

Yes, the break is a little higher than $750. If you want to be real detail-oriented, look at each restaurant you plan on going to and see if they offer an AP or DVC discount...

or a Disney Visa discount. Many of the same restaurants offer a Disney Visa discount as well. On our last trip, we made a note for each restaurant where we have an ADR which discount was the highest (DVC, AP, or Disney Visa).

 

[wdw4rfam]

I would look at this closer if the AP discounts are reduced or eliminated. Right now it would be the difference between the AP and TiW discounts covering the $150. We have a couple of trips next year so we will be looking at what happens with the discounts in Dec.

Same here. We’ve done great with the AP 20% this year- TIW would never have worked out good for us. But if they truly end in December, we will buy it next year. We already figured out that it will break even on our first trip and we have 2 more planned. So it’s a no-brainer. But we won’t buy until we get down there- or at least until participating restaurants are announced for 2018.

 

[gharter]

We have used the TIW, AP and Disney Visa discounts depending where we ate. We saved a lot of money of 3 trips with the TIW card to easily pay for it.
Everywhere I look, for TIW, it says DVC member, it never says DVC member before a certain date, such as other perks do.
I would call and ask the generic question about a DVC member purchasing the card.
Worst case, call and order it 1 month before you go.