Poll : Should all WDW and DVC Resortsa go with a wrist band system for the pool areas

[Beca]

However I think random enforcement on theme pools would serve to drive the message home over time without the expense of a permanent installation like gates operated by room keys.

I think I'd go with the gates for some of the quiet pools at the deluxe and DVC resorts and wrist bands for the theme pools. Key word is some.

The problem Disney has is that Orlando is experiencing zero unemployment. What would they have to pay in order to even have the floating team I have in mind let alone a dedicated staff for each hotel with a theme pool?

The problem with random checks (as I see it), is that WDW/DVC would then be open to "random" checks. I mean, what is random? Is it something that happens once a month, once a week, once a day? If WDW came out and announced that they would be doing random checks at pools, I would think, "Great...something else that WDW says their going to enforce, but they are not." I think random might become so seldom that pool crashers would feel their chances of getting caught were low enough that it wouldn't happen to them. Then, we are right back where we started. I know if WDW said they were going to a "random" check plan at SAB, I'd be pretty miffed!!

As far as employment, college kids come real cheap to WDW. I know many kids would LOVE that job rather than some of the others they are assigned. As far as dues, BCV pretty much has someone there most of the time, and our dues are not substantially higher than other resorts. I agree that some resorts (mainly OKW) may not need it, just because of location. I really don't know if/when this will ever be an issue at SSR. I have not spent enough time there to know how many crashers from DTD they are getting. But, I think that VWL and BWV can certainly use some assistance.

Who knows WHAT they are going to do with AKV??!! I know that pool is not big enough to support another building, so they are really going to have to build a GREAT pool to take enough traffic away from Uzima. I suspect they may end up having to have some "assistance" there as well.

 

[jodifla]

For fences and gates and CMs around each pool, including the quiet ones, you are talking MAJOR money, which would come out of all our dues.

All this, for something that is not really a problem at most of the resorts.

 

[Beca]

For fences and gates and CMs around each pool, including the quiet ones, you are talking MAJOR money, which would come out of all our dues.

All this, for something that is not really a problem at most of the resorts.

That's why I think it is better to have CM's instead of gates. And, I am not sure about the "major money" part. If that were true, BCV would already have BY FAR the highest MF's, but it does not. I really don't think we are talking about that much money, here.

And, I think a lot of VWL owners would disagree about the "problem" part. It is definitely a problem to them, but WDW does not seem to bothered by this. It really doesn't seem fair.

 

[tjkraz]

Fencing would be a capital improvement and the cost to members could almost certainly be spread over a number of years. On an annual basis they would have to plan for maintenance (painting, lock replacement, etc.)

The cost to members of the entire thing would probably be as negligible as wristbands. A resort like Old Key West has over 7 million points in circulation. A dues increase of $.03 per point would generate almost $250,000 annually.

SSR is larger. VWL and BWV are smaller, but the resort would have to pick up a large portion of the tab due to the cash rooms present.

 

[keishashadow]

I still think it takes an awful lot of pre-meditated planning to pool hop. Most people don't just happen to leave their hotel room with swimsuits, sunblock, towels, etc.

And, more than anything, I hate what fences would do to the area from an aesthetic standpoint. At a resort like OKW the pool is pretty much out in the open so it might not be a big deal. But at SSR, the pool is completely surrounded by resort buildings (spa, restaurant, arcade, pool bar, etc.) I can't imagine trying to wedge a gated entrance in that space.

In the parks we always see lots of men in swim trunks, think rides where you get wet. Increasingly more women too; whether a 2 pc. top in lieu of undergarmet or just wearing a tankini top. Not much of a stretch to imagine them parking @ overflow lot @ BW, going to the parks then returning for a quick dip in the pool (complimentary pool towels included); then heading out to where-ever. I've read several posts (quickly closed) where this strategy is given as a helpful hint. Pool abuse threads do bring out strong responses.

 

[JimMIA]

In the parks we always see lots of men in swim trunks, think rides where you get wet. Increasingly more women too; whether a 2 pc. top in lieu of undergarmet or just wearing a tankini top.

I've also seen people going thru security at Epcot with a bag full of bathing suits. Not sure why.

 

[Cruelladeville]

(BTW, I don't care if there are 100 empty pool lounges, I always take one with a towel on it. They're better -- there's a reason why someone tried to save that particular pool lounge. Plus, you get an extra towel. )

I am glad that I am not the only one who does this! I usually go around the pool, and take ALL the towels off the chaise lounges early in the day, so when they come back from the Parks, those people have no place to sit at the pool.

 

[dumbo71]

I was very intrigued by this thread, because although I have not yet visited my "home" I already feel a strong sense of protection over it! However the poll answer responses confuse me. Are we asking about wristbands for the pool, or the entire resort? I have been to WDW before and you can pretty much walk onto any resort to visit the restaurants etc., so I have no idea how you would monitor this! So, I would not mind wristbands for the pool but as mentioned by others, am unsure of the practicality!

Others seem confused by this as well. All inclusive resorts and some others make guests wear wrist bands for there entire stay. It helps security know who is a registered guest of that property. It would also eliminate the need for CM's giving out wrist bands at the pool area. Lifeguards and the CM's working the pool area would simply have to look for wristbands and remove those without. This is what I mean by for the entire resort versus just the pool area.

Hope this helps.

 

[BeccaG]

Others seem confused by this as well. All inclusive resorts and some others make guests wear wrist bands for there entire stay. It helps security know who is a registered guest of that property. It would also eliminate the need for CM's giving out wrist bands at the pool area. Lifeguards and the CM's working the pool area would simply have to look for wristbands and remove those without. This is what I mean by for the entire resort versus just the pool area.

Hope this helps.

Well I think then I would vote "no" to wearing it around the whole resort, I would be OK with the pool, but having to wear them the whole time would make me feel like I was back at my elementary school summer camp! Plus, since Disney wants people to visit the restraunts etc. at other resorts, I can' t imagine them going that route either! If I was voting, I would have to vote "I don't care about the pool, but definitely NOT the entire resort." But since that is not an option I won't vote!

 

[Sammie]

To be honest --although I voted yes, but only in the pool area -- We really have not encountered this problem during our visits. Maybe it's because of staying mostly at OKW, or maybe it's the time of year we go, but we just haven't seen it. I'm sure it's a problem at SAB, though.

My other reservation with this idea is that Disney doesn't enforce their rules much anyway, so it's illogical to think they would enforce this one.

I agree, with Jim, I don't see Disney enforcing it and therefore it's a wasted effort.

I also agree with BeccaG, I am not wearing a wristband 24/7 while at Disney, to help them police the pool. Most resorts that require the wristband that are all inclusive, do it because alcohol is involved.

When the problem got out of hand at SAB Disney took steps to stop it, I am sure if it gets out of hand elsewhere they will address the situation.

 

[Machta]

You know, my kids love the wrist bands! They compete to see who can come home with the most--it's a cheap souvenier. My five-year-old looks at them as a badge of honor, since at our local rec center here at home they give them out only to little kids who have passed the swim test and can go anywhere in the pool area by themselves. She was so proud the day she passed the test!

But back to the topic--We've seem them enforce the wristbands at SAB very efficiently and gently. Once you get out, take the wristband off--what's the big deal?

 

[dumbo71]

When the problem got out of hand at SAB Disney took steps to stop it, I am sure if it gets out of hand elsewhere they will address the situation.

Ah, but here I disagree. The problem has been out of hand at WL for years and nothing has been done. There is, to a lesser degree, a problem at BWV as well. Swan and Dolphin guests have an easy walk to that pool as well as people visiting the BW area.

We can't rely on DVC to always make the right choices.

Thanks for the feedback, it seems clear to me from this poll that a majority favor wrist bands in some fashion.

 

[salmoneous]

Thanks for the feedback, it seems clear to me from this poll that a majority favor wrist bands in some fashion.

First of all, I wouldn't take any poll with a handful of votes as being representative of the majority. But you absolutely can't take this poll seriously due to the biased wording of the choices. In particular, each of the "no" options is followed by negative follow-ups. Where was the choice for people who simply think, "no - I don't think it necessary right now"?

Now I'm not saying a majority don't want a wristband system - just that you can't conclude that based on this poll.

 

[paults]

how about a electronic zapper inserted in the wrist or anywhere. If you have one you can get in the pool BUT if you don't have one the water ZAPS YOU out of the resort never to be seen again.

this would work